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		By: Vanni		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vanni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ DCG

I guess he didn&#039;t turn up in sackcloth and managed to stop himself from renting his clothes in anguish at what was happening at the time.
There is another way of expressing sorrow that I was dying to write, but I&#039;ll be good ...... :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ DCG</p>
<p>I guess he didn&#8217;t turn up in sackcloth and managed to stop himself from renting his clothes in anguish at what was happening at the time.<br />
There is another way of expressing sorrow that I was dying to write, but I&#8217;ll be good &#8230;&#8230; :)</p>
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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Vanni
At the risk of upsetting Mr Laiviera by stealing his thunder, I&#039;ll upstage him with an answer to your question. What you describe is history and that&#039;s for historians. Politics is about the future. What you describe is gone - all of it is acqua passata. Dr Alfred Sant has no regrets. None. This is not a hypothesis. It is a misprint because my computer malfunctioned.

[Moderator - I laughed so hard that I spat out my Crosscraft Fried Chicken.]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vanni<br />
At the risk of upsetting Mr Laiviera by stealing his thunder, I&#8217;ll upstage him with an answer to your question. What you describe is history and that&#8217;s for historians. Politics is about the future. What you describe is gone &#8211; all of it is acqua passata. Dr Alfred Sant has no regrets. None. This is not a hypothesis. It is a misprint because my computer malfunctioned.</p>
<p>[Moderator &#8211; I laughed so hard that I spat out my Crosscraft Fried Chicken.]</p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When Alfred Sant was invited to my wedding in 1985 (I had no choice, because he was married at the time to my husband&#039;s cousin) he was PRESIDENT OF THE LABOUR PARTY - not &#039;someone working quietly from within&#039;, as Victor the historical revisionist puts it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Alfred Sant was invited to my wedding in 1985 (I had no choice, because he was married at the time to my husband&#8217;s cousin) he was PRESIDENT OF THE LABOUR PARTY &#8211; not &#8216;someone working quietly from within&#8217;, as Victor the historical revisionist puts it.</p>
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		By: Vanni		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vanni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Mr. Victor Laiviera

I have a feeling that this will not get me very far, seeing the answer you gave (&quot;Sant, together with a group of like-minded indivuals, was working, quietly and without fanfare, to reform te party from within&quot;) but I&#039;ll try.

When exactly did AS, as present leader of the MLP, the same MLP who sent the marmalja on rampages, apologize for the happenings of the past?

If AS inherited the party, he inherited it warts and all. What did he ever offer in way of apology to those who were beaten, tortured, and to the relatives of those who were killed?

Did he just ONCE show repentance for the past? If yes, time and place please.

And before I forget, I wonder if you would you be so kind as to enlighten us what was AS&#039;s his position in the MLP hierarchy at the darkest time&#039;s in Malta&#039;s history? The time of the worker&#039;s aristocracy.

I wonder if the next excuse from Mr. Victor Laiviera will be along the lines of Befehl ist Befehl.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mr. Victor Laiviera</p>
<p>I have a feeling that this will not get me very far, seeing the answer you gave (&#8220;Sant, together with a group of like-minded indivuals, was working, quietly and without fanfare, to reform te party from within&#8221;) but I&#8217;ll try.</p>
<p>When exactly did AS, as present leader of the MLP, the same MLP who sent the marmalja on rampages, apologize for the happenings of the past?</p>
<p>If AS inherited the party, he inherited it warts and all. What did he ever offer in way of apology to those who were beaten, tortured, and to the relatives of those who were killed?</p>
<p>Did he just ONCE show repentance for the past? If yes, time and place please.</p>
<p>And before I forget, I wonder if you would you be so kind as to enlighten us what was AS&#8217;s his position in the MLP hierarchy at the darkest time&#8217;s in Malta&#8217;s history? The time of the worker&#8217;s aristocracy.</p>
<p>I wonder if the next excuse from Mr. Victor Laiviera will be along the lines of Befehl ist Befehl.</p>
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		By: Matthew Borg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Borg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I beg to differ Victor, my friend, but obviously we will have a difference in opinion over this till kingdom come.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I beg to differ Victor, my friend, but obviously we will have a difference in opinion over this till kingdom come.</p>
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		By: Victor Laiviera		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victor Laiviera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Vanni, I waa hoping someboedy would ask that question.


Where was sant ....&quot;

Sant, together with a group of like-minded indivuals, was working, quietly and without fanfare, to reform te party from within - which is the only kind of reform that works.  I can claim to have had a very, very modest part in it.

They succeeded to the extent that today&#039;s MLP is probablt the cleanest and most violence-free party we ever had in Maltese politics.

The pity is that the PN never went through this same process.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Vanni, I waa hoping someboedy would ask that question.</p>
<p>Where was sant &#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sant, together with a group of like-minded indivuals, was working, quietly and without fanfare, to reform te party from within &#8211; which is the only kind of reform that works.  I can claim to have had a very, very modest part in it.</p>
<p>They succeeded to the extent that today&#8217;s MLP is probablt the cleanest and most violence-free party we ever had in Maltese politics.</p>
<p>The pity is that the PN never went through this same process.</p>
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		By: Victor Laiviera		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victor Laiviera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mallia (what a crude way of addressing each other - surely we can mantain a modicum of courtesy even when we disagree?)

I will let my alter-ego answer your last message;

http://www.independent.com.mt/news.asp?newsitemid=65821]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mallia (what a crude way of addressing each other &#8211; surely we can mantain a modicum of courtesy even when we disagree?)</p>
<p>I will let my alter-ego answer your last message;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.independent.com.mt/news.asp?newsitemid=65821" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.independent.com.mt/news.asp?newsitemid=65821</a></p>
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		By: Albert Galea		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert Galea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Listen let&#039;s be honest the environment under PN has suffered.

HOWEVER, it is always much harder to deal with the environment in a country that is now substantially richer and consumes much more than in the 3rd-world days of the 70s and early 80s. There were less cars on the road (and nearly all broken down pre-war vehicles), no leisure boats, less retaurants, holiday homes, no ACs, washing machines were rare, less consumption of disposaables, etc.

And even though the island was broke Labour did an awful job with the environment.

As for planning, that was quite simple, Lorry Sant was the A-Z of Planning.

And by the way our friend Sant, was president of the party in those police-state, church-bashing, totalitarian days!

Furthermore, we are lucky that we are discussing the environment as a major campaign issue and not our freedom of speech, freedom of press, rampant unemployment, 3rd-world infrastructure, health, education, economic crisis. THESE used to be the issues when Labour were in charge.

Let us therefore keep things in proportion, and vote PN as they have given us our freedom and prosperity. And today we ALL live in a Malta that is doing bloody well. Fact, no matter how many times Sant repeats Stagnar!

Vote Sant and maybe all these critical issues will be on the agenda in Elections 2013 (should Sant last a full legislature).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen let&#8217;s be honest the environment under PN has suffered.</p>
<p>HOWEVER, it is always much harder to deal with the environment in a country that is now substantially richer and consumes much more than in the 3rd-world days of the 70s and early 80s. There were less cars on the road (and nearly all broken down pre-war vehicles), no leisure boats, less retaurants, holiday homes, no ACs, washing machines were rare, less consumption of disposaables, etc.</p>
<p>And even though the island was broke Labour did an awful job with the environment.</p>
<p>As for planning, that was quite simple, Lorry Sant was the A-Z of Planning.</p>
<p>And by the way our friend Sant, was president of the party in those police-state, church-bashing, totalitarian days!</p>
<p>Furthermore, we are lucky that we are discussing the environment as a major campaign issue and not our freedom of speech, freedom of press, rampant unemployment, 3rd-world infrastructure, health, education, economic crisis. THESE used to be the issues when Labour were in charge.</p>
<p>Let us therefore keep things in proportion, and vote PN as they have given us our freedom and prosperity. And today we ALL live in a Malta that is doing bloody well. Fact, no matter how many times Sant repeats Stagnar!</p>
<p>Vote Sant and maybe all these critical issues will be on the agenda in Elections 2013 (should Sant last a full legislature).</p>
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		By: Joseph Micallef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph Micallef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh Victor, who said you have a boss!! Poor soul denigrating your divine rulers in that way must really hurt!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Victor, who said you have a boss!! Poor soul denigrating your divine rulers in that way must really hurt!</p>
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		By: Vanni		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vanni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t run away from confrontation Mr. Laiviera. And I do not impose limits.

So here goes
Where was the great man, AS, when Mario Pavia, (RIP m8) was shot at in Rabat by a policeman under the Labour Goverment of the time?
His crime, attending a Nationalist meeting.

Where was the intellectual, AS, when KMB fiddled around with the education?

Where was AS, the clever fella, when the budget used to consist of &quot;u issa nnaqsu 2 mils min landa ton taz-zejt&quot; (the quote is NOT factual, but you get the idea)?

Where was AS, the intelligent one, when these infamous words were uttered: &quot;Komputers ma jidhlux, ghax inehhu xoghol&quot; (again not a precise quote, but you get the gist.)

Do you remember having to bribe hbieb tal-hbieb to get a colour TV, Mr. Laiviera? Do you remember Desserta?

Do you remember people going to Sicily and shopping like crazy for toothpaste and Barilla?

Do you remember Fusellu? He used to hang out at Thursdays Disco, with his hands always in both pockets.

What else would you like to talk about when we go down memory lane together, Mr. Laiviera?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t run away from confrontation Mr. Laiviera. And I do not impose limits.</p>
<p>So here goes<br />
Where was the great man, AS, when Mario Pavia, (RIP m8) was shot at in Rabat by a policeman under the Labour Goverment of the time?<br />
His crime, attending a Nationalist meeting.</p>
<p>Where was the intellectual, AS, when KMB fiddled around with the education?</p>
<p>Where was AS, the clever fella, when the budget used to consist of &#8220;u issa nnaqsu 2 mils min landa ton taz-zejt&#8221; (the quote is NOT factual, but you get the idea)?</p>
<p>Where was AS, the intelligent one, when these infamous words were uttered: &#8220;Komputers ma jidhlux, ghax inehhu xoghol&#8221; (again not a precise quote, but you get the gist.)</p>
<p>Do you remember having to bribe hbieb tal-hbieb to get a colour TV, Mr. Laiviera? Do you remember Desserta?</p>
<p>Do you remember people going to Sicily and shopping like crazy for toothpaste and Barilla?</p>
<p>Do you remember Fusellu? He used to hang out at Thursdays Disco, with his hands always in both pockets.</p>
<p>What else would you like to talk about when we go down memory lane together, Mr. Laiviera?</p>
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