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		By: Jason Spiteri		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/04/call-centres-and-think-tanks/#comment-6589</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I quote from JM’s piece in today’s Times: “In the European Parliament in Strasbourg, the Socialist Group leader, Martin Schulz, put forward yet another facet to the argument when he lashed out at speculation on the current situation in the global food market. He was critical of the fact that financial institutions are advising their clients to bet on soaring prices, thus providing an incentive for speculators to create food shortages. Describing these actions as &quot;immoral&quot;, he argued in favour of international regulation of the financial markets, especially in the case of hedge funds.
Food for thought.”

This is the same Martin Schultz MEP who made as if he hadn’t known that Silvio Berlusconi was referring to the character on Hogan’s Heroes in his comment a few years back, and created a big, big storm in a tea-cup.

Listen to what he’s saying now, and what JM is toying with as if it were age-old wisdom: it’s IMMORAL for financial advisors to advise their clients on where best to put their money (even though they’re being paid for exactly that reason) because – catch this – in a market where there’s shortage of supply and high prices, it makes sense for food producers NOT to sell food. In other words, it’s not objective conditions like bad harvests, crop disease etc. that are resulting in price hikes, it’s evil entrepreneurs’ wickedness. And the answer according to our socialist friends?

More state regulation.

This type of thinking in a possible future PM, during a pretty leftist government’s tenure, chills my blood infinitely faster than eyes or goatees do.

[Moderator - I wonder if he even knows that, a few weeks ago, the UK made it illegal for petrol stations to dispense petrol that does not contain a percentage of crop-sourced fuel. Government regulation has more of a role in driving up food prices than he cares to consider.]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quote from JM’s piece in today’s Times: “In the European Parliament in Strasbourg, the Socialist Group leader, Martin Schulz, put forward yet another facet to the argument when he lashed out at speculation on the current situation in the global food market. He was critical of the fact that financial institutions are advising their clients to bet on soaring prices, thus providing an incentive for speculators to create food shortages. Describing these actions as &#8220;immoral&#8221;, he argued in favour of international regulation of the financial markets, especially in the case of hedge funds.<br />
Food for thought.”</p>
<p>This is the same Martin Schultz MEP who made as if he hadn’t known that Silvio Berlusconi was referring to the character on Hogan’s Heroes in his comment a few years back, and created a big, big storm in a tea-cup.</p>
<p>Listen to what he’s saying now, and what JM is toying with as if it were age-old wisdom: it’s IMMORAL for financial advisors to advise their clients on where best to put their money (even though they’re being paid for exactly that reason) because – catch this – in a market where there’s shortage of supply and high prices, it makes sense for food producers NOT to sell food. In other words, it’s not objective conditions like bad harvests, crop disease etc. that are resulting in price hikes, it’s evil entrepreneurs’ wickedness. And the answer according to our socialist friends?</p>
<p>More state regulation.</p>
<p>This type of thinking in a possible future PM, during a pretty leftist government’s tenure, chills my blood infinitely faster than eyes or goatees do.</p>
<p>[Moderator &#8211; I wonder if he even knows that, a few weeks ago, the UK made it illegal for petrol stations to dispense petrol that does not contain a percentage of crop-sourced fuel. Government regulation has more of a role in driving up food prices than he cares to consider.]</p>
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		By: Vanni		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see where you are coming from, Uncle Fester. And maybe I would agree with you that it would take an earthquake to make certain people begin trusting MLP after the disgusting things they saw and lived through. However, unless the MLP start by apologizing (and not just by mouthing the words either) for its actions, there can&#039;t be any reconciliation. Saying &quot;that is water under the bridge&quot; won&#039;t help any attempt at reconciliation. Another problem is that the MLP is still crawling with people who were members of quite some standard within the MLP of the time. They should be given the boot.
In other words, a rebirth is needed. If the past is buried, then people who were scarred by the events, whilst maybe not voting MLP, might consider abstaining from voting for PN ghax allahares jitilaw il-lejber.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see where you are coming from, Uncle Fester. And maybe I would agree with you that it would take an earthquake to make certain people begin trusting MLP after the disgusting things they saw and lived through. However, unless the MLP start by apologizing (and not just by mouthing the words either) for its actions, there can&#8217;t be any reconciliation. Saying &#8220;that is water under the bridge&#8221; won&#8217;t help any attempt at reconciliation. Another problem is that the MLP is still crawling with people who were members of quite some standard within the MLP of the time. They should be given the boot.<br />
In other words, a rebirth is needed. If the past is buried, then people who were scarred by the events, whilst maybe not voting MLP, might consider abstaining from voting for PN ghax allahares jitilaw il-lejber.</p>
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		By: Uncle Fester		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/04/call-centres-and-think-tanks/#comment-6587</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle Fester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good point moderator.  However the PN stood by or worked behind the scenes to let these injustices continute to happen in the 1960s because it was politically expedient.  But there again you focus in on defending the P.N. - my comment was wider than that.  Is there anything the M.L.P can do to make amends for the violence of the 1980s that would satisfy the victims of that violence (which in a wider sense is all of us in Daphne&#039;s generation because although never one to be politically active I do remember those events clearly)?  I think that like victims of crime there is nothing ever that really can be done - they are scarred forever much like the victims of the man who Daphne outed as being a sexual predator.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point moderator.  However the PN stood by or worked behind the scenes to let these injustices continute to happen in the 1960s because it was politically expedient.  But there again you focus in on defending the P.N. &#8211; my comment was wider than that.  Is there anything the M.L.P can do to make amends for the violence of the 1980s that would satisfy the victims of that violence (which in a wider sense is all of us in Daphne&#8217;s generation because although never one to be politically active I do remember those events clearly)?  I think that like victims of crime there is nothing ever that really can be done &#8211; they are scarred forever much like the victims of the man who Daphne outed as being a sexual predator.</p>
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		By: Uncle Fester		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/04/call-centres-and-think-tanks/#comment-6586</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle Fester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Was giving a little thought to the by all means extraordinary reactions (overkill x infinity) that I have seen on this website and want to throw something out there.

Seems to me that people like Anna, Amanda, maybe Mark, definitely Daphne and so forth are in a generation of people that have been mentally scarred by events that they witnessed in their formative years.  The accounts of violence that these people recount on this blog were witnessed in their teenage years and must have had an effect on them so much so that like many victims of injustice or crime they continue to relive these episodes over and over and these experiences give them a world view that remains with them throughout life.  In this case they will never ever trust Labour, however much it reforms itself and diassociates itself from the past.

They are not unlike the generation of Labour Party supporters known as the &quot;suldati tal-azzar&quot; who were the victims of Arch. Gonzi&#039;s interdett in the 1960s.  These people witnessed and felt this injustice in their youth and were forever scarred by it - Lino Spiteri, Micallef Stafrace, Lorry Sant and so many others.  It forever tainted their view of the church and the allies of the Church in public office - the P.N.  Whatever was said by way of regret was never enough and could never right the wrongs they experienced.

And by the way, I believe the MLP through Sant had already apologized for the excesses of the 1980s.  Am I wrong about that?  Sant also routed out the violent elements in Labour and the party has never looked back.  What else should Labour do to make amends?

Remember the church, i.e. that institution set up to give an example of repentance and forgiveness, took for ever to apologize to the victims of its interdett.  And that&#039;s from an institution that doesn&#039;t have to worry about running for election.

Any thoughts on this?

[Moderator - You are confusing citizenship with religious following. The Roman Catholic church is probably the most undemocratic organisation in the world, and when intelligent people disagree with its dogmas, they leave it because it is not a social service that we are all entitled to. How on earth is the Nationalist Party responsible for people who didn&#039;t have the courage to leave the church when they were asked to?]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was giving a little thought to the by all means extraordinary reactions (overkill x infinity) that I have seen on this website and want to throw something out there.</p>
<p>Seems to me that people like Anna, Amanda, maybe Mark, definitely Daphne and so forth are in a generation of people that have been mentally scarred by events that they witnessed in their formative years.  The accounts of violence that these people recount on this blog were witnessed in their teenage years and must have had an effect on them so much so that like many victims of injustice or crime they continue to relive these episodes over and over and these experiences give them a world view that remains with them throughout life.  In this case they will never ever trust Labour, however much it reforms itself and diassociates itself from the past.</p>
<p>They are not unlike the generation of Labour Party supporters known as the &#8220;suldati tal-azzar&#8221; who were the victims of Arch. Gonzi&#8217;s interdett in the 1960s.  These people witnessed and felt this injustice in their youth and were forever scarred by it &#8211; Lino Spiteri, Micallef Stafrace, Lorry Sant and so many others.  It forever tainted their view of the church and the allies of the Church in public office &#8211; the P.N.  Whatever was said by way of regret was never enough and could never right the wrongs they experienced.</p>
<p>And by the way, I believe the MLP through Sant had already apologized for the excesses of the 1980s.  Am I wrong about that?  Sant also routed out the violent elements in Labour and the party has never looked back.  What else should Labour do to make amends?</p>
<p>Remember the church, i.e. that institution set up to give an example of repentance and forgiveness, took for ever to apologize to the victims of its interdett.  And that&#8217;s from an institution that doesn&#8217;t have to worry about running for election.</p>
<p>Any thoughts on this?</p>
<p>[Moderator &#8211; You are confusing citizenship with religious following. The Roman Catholic church is probably the most undemocratic organisation in the world, and when intelligent people disagree with its dogmas, they leave it because it is not a social service that we are all entitled to. How on earth is the Nationalist Party responsible for people who didn&#8217;t have the courage to leave the church when they were asked to?]</p>
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		By: Uncle Fester		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/04/call-centres-and-think-tanks/#comment-6585</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle Fester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Mark.  Daphne&#039;s articles and most of the comments are quite informative and entertaining.  The blog is excellent.  I am not bored or disengaged - that&#039;s your fabrication.  I am bored with true believers of all political hues who treat politicos as if they were super mortals on pedestals and who see issues in terms of blue and red and deal with political issues as if they were dogmas of faith.  Witness Anna&#039;s first reaction that I must be a &quot;lejber&quot; voter just because I took a swipe at the Gonzi duos constant smiles.  And by the way this took me five minutes to write. Pleasant dreams and may PEACE, good karma and all that stuff come your way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark.  Daphne&#8217;s articles and most of the comments are quite informative and entertaining.  The blog is excellent.  I am not bored or disengaged &#8211; that&#8217;s your fabrication.  I am bored with true believers of all political hues who treat politicos as if they were super mortals on pedestals and who see issues in terms of blue and red and deal with political issues as if they were dogmas of faith.  Witness Anna&#8217;s first reaction that I must be a &#8220;lejber&#8221; voter just because I took a swipe at the Gonzi duos constant smiles.  And by the way this took me five minutes to write. Pleasant dreams and may PEACE, good karma and all that stuff come your way.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Uncle Fester

What is actually amazing is how such a bored, disengaged floating voter can take so much time out of his day to write on a political blog that apparently makes him yawn.  And all this for want of anything better to do.  Are you really that sad?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Uncle Fester</p>
<p>What is actually amazing is how such a bored, disengaged floating voter can take so much time out of his day to write on a political blog that apparently makes him yawn.  And all this for want of anything better to do.  Are you really that sad?</p>
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		By: Uncle Fester		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle Fester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Vanni - until the next time....LOL!!  Amazing how politics still enflames people&#039;s passions this way and how they put these political leader types on pedestals.  It is still so 1980s in many ways.  Black and white.  No grey or very little.  To those of us floating out there from pale blue to pale pink and then to green and back again it&#039;s just such a yawn and taking a poke at the sacred cows of the true believers proves to be irresistible.  I know as Anna said I&#039;m lacking in maturity - that&#039;s why I just don&#039;t see it her way!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Vanni &#8211; until the next time&#8230;.LOL!!  Amazing how politics still enflames people&#8217;s passions this way and how they put these political leader types on pedestals.  It is still so 1980s in many ways.  Black and white.  No grey or very little.  To those of us floating out there from pale blue to pale pink and then to green and back again it&#8217;s just such a yawn and taking a poke at the sacred cows of the true believers proves to be irresistible.  I know as Anna said I&#8217;m lacking in maturity &#8211; that&#8217;s why I just don&#8217;t see it her way!</p>
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		By: Vanni		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vanni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but I love it as well as the next fella.
Glad that you saw the light Uncle Fester. Any time you want some more enlightenment, just give us a call.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but I love it as well as the next fella.<br />
Glad that you saw the light Uncle Fester. Any time you want some more enlightenment, just give us a call.</p>
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		By: Uncle Fester		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Mark, Vanni and Anna:  You&#039;re all so right and all much too sharp for me, how could I not have understood that asking for basic biographical information about a candidate&#039;s spouse (usually contained in election campaign literature as a matter of course) is violative of their rights?  I stand corrected and duly chastised by all of you much more mature and knowledgeable people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mark, Vanni and Anna:  You&#8217;re all so right and all much too sharp for me, how could I not have understood that asking for basic biographical information about a candidate&#8217;s spouse (usually contained in election campaign literature as a matter of course) is violative of their rights?  I stand corrected and duly chastised by all of you much more mature and knowledgeable people.</p>
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		By: Anna		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Uncle Fester – just curious, how old are you? I wouldn’t normally dream of asking but your behaviour on this blog puts me in mind of a young child allowed onto the playground with the ‘big kids’ for the first time. We’ve all seen it happen: the youngster darts from one group to the other excitedly putting in his tuppence worth, miscuing more often than not and totally unaware of it.

I would really like to believe that it is age and not the lack of a moral compass that is responsible for your failure to understand that someone who is NOT A PUBLIC FIGURE should not become the subject of public commentary simply to gratify your curiosity, in this case, or to harass and intimidate as in the case of Daphne’s sons and others that I know of. How many times do you have to hear it – relatives of public figures (whether spouses, offspring, members of the extended family) do not lose their right to privacy simply because they are related to the public figure.

I am, however, starting to find you rather tiresome. The topic’s closed. Daphne says so and it’s her blog. Perhaps, as Amanda suggested elsewhere, you should retire to your grotto for a while and take stock.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Uncle Fester – just curious, how old are you? I wouldn’t normally dream of asking but your behaviour on this blog puts me in mind of a young child allowed onto the playground with the ‘big kids’ for the first time. We’ve all seen it happen: the youngster darts from one group to the other excitedly putting in his tuppence worth, miscuing more often than not and totally unaware of it.</p>
<p>I would really like to believe that it is age and not the lack of a moral compass that is responsible for your failure to understand that someone who is NOT A PUBLIC FIGURE should not become the subject of public commentary simply to gratify your curiosity, in this case, or to harass and intimidate as in the case of Daphne’s sons and others that I know of. How many times do you have to hear it – relatives of public figures (whether spouses, offspring, members of the extended family) do not lose their right to privacy simply because they are related to the public figure.</p>
<p>I am, however, starting to find you rather tiresome. The topic’s closed. Daphne says so and it’s her blog. Perhaps, as Amanda suggested elsewhere, you should retire to your grotto for a while and take stock.</p>
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