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		By: amrio		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/05/so-there/#comment-9049</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amrio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080527/local/falzon-hits-out-at-mlp-election-report

So, if Michael, Zrinzo and Mangion are all saying they were not part of a clique in the MLP, who was part of the clique(s) that the WWL report is mentioning?

Is it therefore a case of a clique headed by Jason and/or Alfred Sant, which excluded everyone else in the party? And if JM is/was part of this same clique, if JM is elected leader, will this clique remain and become stronger, to the detriment of either MLP high-profile members?

If all this were so, the only way forward for a real reform of the Labour Party is for non-members of this clique (there must be quite a lot) to simply resign from the MLP and form another party.

It is now becoming more obvious that lots of MLP officials did not and still do not agree with the way things have been going on in the MLP, and that they have shut up due to their &#039;love of the party&#039;

Guys, you can&#039;t go on like this; if you truly love what the party used to stand for, and if you think that by JM&#039;s election there&#039;ll be &#039;more of the same&#039;, now is the time to show what you are made of and act!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080527/local/falzon-hits-out-at-mlp-election-report" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080527/local/falzon-hits-out-at-mlp-election-report</a></p>
<p>So, if Michael, Zrinzo and Mangion are all saying they were not part of a clique in the MLP, who was part of the clique(s) that the WWL report is mentioning?</p>
<p>Is it therefore a case of a clique headed by Jason and/or Alfred Sant, which excluded everyone else in the party? And if JM is/was part of this same clique, if JM is elected leader, will this clique remain and become stronger, to the detriment of either MLP high-profile members?</p>
<p>If all this were so, the only way forward for a real reform of the Labour Party is for non-members of this clique (there must be quite a lot) to simply resign from the MLP and form another party.</p>
<p>It is now becoming more obvious that lots of MLP officials did not and still do not agree with the way things have been going on in the MLP, and that they have shut up due to their &#8216;love of the party&#8217;</p>
<p>Guys, you can&#8217;t go on like this; if you truly love what the party used to stand for, and if you think that by JM&#8217;s election there&#8217;ll be &#8216;more of the same&#8217;, now is the time to show what you are made of and act!</p>
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		By: Peter Muscat		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/05/so-there/#comment-9048</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Muscat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 15:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Daphne If things are as you said then you can ask your moderator why he chose to censor my posts.

Anyway I forwarded the censored post to another Maltese Forum. I&#039;ll forward the site tomorrow.

@ David : Didn&#039;t you know that Giovanna &#039; lost&#039; some 1000 votes at last GE? I am sorry but your comment shows you do not have an idea about &#039; the Gozitan situation&#039;!

[Moderator - Peter, the word censorship is too good for you. I &lt;i&gt;discarded&lt;/i&gt; your posts because I had had enough of your smoke and mirrors, multiple identities and vague accusations.]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Daphne If things are as you said then you can ask your moderator why he chose to censor my posts.</p>
<p>Anyway I forwarded the censored post to another Maltese Forum. I&#8217;ll forward the site tomorrow.</p>
<p>@ David : Didn&#8217;t you know that Giovanna &#8216; lost&#8217; some 1000 votes at last GE? I am sorry but your comment shows you do not have an idea about &#8216; the Gozitan situation&#8217;!</p>
<p>[Moderator &#8211; Peter, the word censorship is too good for you. I <i>discarded</i> your posts because I had had enough of your smoke and mirrors, multiple identities and vague accusations.]</p>
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		By: Mario P		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/05/so-there/#comment-9047</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mario P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 14:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[what changed my mind was the &#039;bidu gdid&#039; thingie - i&#039;ve had enough of &#039;bidu gdid&#039; thank you v. much. I used to admire DCG but now she&#039;s way over the top although in her more sober moments she shines through again.  Keep off the sarcasm dear -it&#039;s not healthy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what changed my mind was the &#8216;bidu gdid&#8217; thingie &#8211; i&#8217;ve had enough of &#8216;bidu gdid&#8217; thank you v. much. I used to admire DCG but now she&#8217;s way over the top although in her more sober moments she shines through again.  Keep off the sarcasm dear -it&#8217;s not healthy.</p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/05/so-there/#comment-9046</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 11:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Peter Muscat - I don&#039;t have access to any comments before they go on line. I read them when you do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter Muscat &#8211; I don&#8217;t have access to any comments before they go on line. I read them when you do.</p>
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		By: David S		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/05/so-there/#comment-9045</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 10:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I concur with Peter Muscats comment about Gozitans being  shrewd . They gave the PN Victory (PN got less votes than labour in Malta in the last election)
Also generally Gozo witnesses larger swings than the Maltese electorate , even in the 1996 election.
..and of course Giovanna is the shrewdest of them (us) all !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur with Peter Muscats comment about Gozitans being  shrewd . They gave the PN Victory (PN got less votes than labour in Malta in the last election)<br />
Also generally Gozo witnesses larger swings than the Maltese electorate , even in the 1996 election.<br />
..and of course Giovanna is the shrewdest of them (us) all !</p>
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		By: David S		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/05/so-there/#comment-9044</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 09:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[omg   the link to Maltatoday reveals that there are 25 delegates from the Brigata Laburista....hehehehe what a funny bunch Lejber is.  Funny in opposition, scary in government - so let them stay there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg   the link to Maltatoday reveals that there are 25 delegates from the Brigata Laburista&#8230;.hehehehe what a funny bunch Lejber is.  Funny in opposition, scary in government &#8211; so let them stay there.</p>
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		By: Peter Muscat		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/05/so-there/#comment-9043</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Muscat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 09:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Alex Please do not jump to any conclusions yet. I saw such proflies myself. What I find interesting is the fact that  75% of the &#039;elder delegates&#039; are retired and had a very high position in our society.

Also it is untrue ( as some one said in this forum)that the majority of the Gozitan delegates are backing JM. Gozo , with the highest number of delegates is to play a very important part in the choice of the new MLP Leader. The 5 contenders who are much aware of this fact, have been  paying weekly visits to this Wonderful Island.

I can assure you Alex and the rest that the Gozitan delegates behaviour has been excellent.The strong feeling in Gozo is that it is 3 horse race, even though the other 2 horses managed to gain some ground with their visits.

I can also add that ONLY TWO Gozitan delegates have  behaved in a silly way. However, now,  both realised that they have been ignored by the rest of the delegates.Not only the Gozitan delegates are wise and intelligent but above all they are shrewed.I may dare to add that the &#039;Gozo mirror&#039;is to have a strong effect on the national one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Alex Please do not jump to any conclusions yet. I saw such proflies myself. What I find interesting is the fact that  75% of the &#8216;elder delegates&#8217; are retired and had a very high position in our society.</p>
<p>Also it is untrue ( as some one said in this forum)that the majority of the Gozitan delegates are backing JM. Gozo , with the highest number of delegates is to play a very important part in the choice of the new MLP Leader. The 5 contenders who are much aware of this fact, have been  paying weekly visits to this Wonderful Island.</p>
<p>I can assure you Alex and the rest that the Gozitan delegates behaviour has been excellent.The strong feeling in Gozo is that it is 3 horse race, even though the other 2 horses managed to gain some ground with their visits.</p>
<p>I can also add that ONLY TWO Gozitan delegates have  behaved in a silly way. However, now,  both realised that they have been ignored by the rest of the delegates.Not only the Gozitan delegates are wise and intelligent but above all they are shrewed.I may dare to add that the &#8216;Gozo mirror&#8217;is to have a strong effect on the national one.</p>
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		By: Philip Grima		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/05/so-there/#comment-9042</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Grima]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 08:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Spot on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on.</p>
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		By: Alex		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/05/so-there/#comment-9041</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 08:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@zizzu

You can find the profile of the average delegate here - http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/2008/05/18/t4.html.

When you read that you will understand why MLP is in this sad position and how easily manipulated the average delegate can be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@zizzu</p>
<p>You can find the profile of the average delegate here &#8211; <a href="http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/2008/05/18/t4.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/2008/05/18/t4.html</a>.</p>
<p>When you read that you will understand why MLP is in this sad position and how easily manipulated the average delegate can be.</p>
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		By: Peter Muscat		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/05/so-there/#comment-9040</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Muscat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 07:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne once  wrote that she is different from other columnists! I am sure she is!

This site is a very good example that she&#039;ll never accept different opinions. The reason why 2 post of mine were censored is pathetic and infantile.

Indeed she has been running  with a wedgie long time ago and she can&#039;t get rid off.

[Moderator - Peter, we do accept different opinions. The problem is that your posts rarely contain any.]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne once  wrote that she is different from other columnists! I am sure she is!</p>
<p>This site is a very good example that she&#8217;ll never accept different opinions. The reason why 2 post of mine were censored is pathetic and infantile.</p>
<p>Indeed she has been running  with a wedgie long time ago and she can&#8217;t get rid off.</p>
<p>[Moderator &#8211; Peter, we do accept different opinions. The problem is that your posts rarely contain any.]</p>
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