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		By: Antoine Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antoine Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is not a question of believing JS because, after all, JM&#039;s &#039;helping hand&#039; to the PN electoral campaign can easily be checked.

His &#039;contribution&#039; included going on television to publicly alert the PN that &quot;Labour would be releasing information to implicate a Nationalist Party candidate in corruption&quot;.

This was already too much information and if JM was willing to give it out in public, it is reasonable to assume that he&#039;d be even more &#039;helpful&#039; and open in private.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not a question of believing JS because, after all, JM&#8217;s &#8216;helping hand&#8217; to the PN electoral campaign can easily be checked.</p>
<p>His &#8216;contribution&#8217; included going on television to publicly alert the PN that &#8220;Labour would be releasing information to implicate a Nationalist Party candidate in corruption&#8221;.</p>
<p>This was already too much information and if JM was willing to give it out in public, it is reasonable to assume that he&#8217;d be even more &#8216;helpful&#8217; and open in private.</p>
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		By: m		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[m]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[..just as &#039;hopeless&#039; as your so called &#039;journalism&#039; :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..just as &#8216;hopeless&#8217; as your so called &#8216;journalism&#8217; :)</p>
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		By: P Portelli		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P Portelli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I absuolutely believe that DCG is correct in her assessment.  The new Labour leader is still a child in the political game and he yearns for recognition by showing off he knows things most others are not supposed to know.

Tal-Bord tal Vigilanza ser jinvesigawha din jew?

Apart from that when he was a journalist he was the instrument AS used most to leak things to the PN to destabilise his underlings who were getting too serious for his liking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absuolutely believe that DCG is correct in her assessment.  The new Labour leader is still a child in the political game and he yearns for recognition by showing off he knows things most others are not supposed to know.</p>
<p>Tal-Bord tal Vigilanza ser jinvesigawha din jew?</p>
<p>Apart from that when he was a journalist he was the instrument AS used most to leak things to the PN to destabilise his underlings who were getting too serious for his liking.</p>
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		By: Malcolm Buttigieg		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/06/gosh-joseph-%e2%80%93-that-was-savvy/#comment-10768</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Malcolm Buttigieg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You see Daphne, you presume that I think that Malta&#039;s salvation lies with the Labour Party.  You couldn&#039;t be so wrong.  Although I do harbour leftist principles, it is my view that in its present state, the Malta Labour Party does not even remotely meet my expectations of what a left Party should be and I consider that as a great pity - just like many others who share the same views.  Actually, the PN is closer to principles genearlly associated with the left than the present MLP.

I concur that it takes a lot of brains and stategy (of the Machiavellian type too) to win an election, and the PN has plenty of that among its ranks, JS probably being one of its brigthest assets.

Indeed, until the Malta Labour Party manages in some way or another to attract people with characteristics and talents similar to Joe Saliba&#039;s, its&#039; years in opposition are bound to increase linearly. In the election defeat report, it is evident that a bunch of short sighted idiots were leading its campaign.  Strategy was practically nonexistant.

Undoubtedly, JM has a mammoth task ahead.  Maybe Angelo Farrugia may wish to lend him the elephant - it may not be a mammoth, but it helps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see Daphne, you presume that I think that Malta&#8217;s salvation lies with the Labour Party.  You couldn&#8217;t be so wrong.  Although I do harbour leftist principles, it is my view that in its present state, the Malta Labour Party does not even remotely meet my expectations of what a left Party should be and I consider that as a great pity &#8211; just like many others who share the same views.  Actually, the PN is closer to principles genearlly associated with the left than the present MLP.</p>
<p>I concur that it takes a lot of brains and stategy (of the Machiavellian type too) to win an election, and the PN has plenty of that among its ranks, JS probably being one of its brigthest assets.</p>
<p>Indeed, until the Malta Labour Party manages in some way or another to attract people with characteristics and talents similar to Joe Saliba&#8217;s, its&#8217; years in opposition are bound to increase linearly. In the election defeat report, it is evident that a bunch of short sighted idiots were leading its campaign.  Strategy was practically nonexistant.</p>
<p>Undoubtedly, JM has a mammoth task ahead.  Maybe Angelo Farrugia may wish to lend him the elephant &#8211; it may not be a mammoth, but it helps.</p>
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		By: Xaghra		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xaghra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was obvious, to anyone who followed the election campaign in some detail, that the MLP were planning to spring this one from two weeks before. The only thing that was not in the public domain was the name....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was obvious, to anyone who followed the election campaign in some detail, that the MLP were planning to spring this one from two weeks before. The only thing that was not in the public domain was the name&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Mario Debono		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mario Debono]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Dap here. JM was like Karmeno Zero before him the Successur Iddizinjat ....tiftakruha din? And yes, My info was the same. JM shot his mouth off not because he secretly wanted JPO and the PN to know where the attack is coming from, but to show off his &quot;connections&quot; and his &quot;political Savvy&quot; and his &quot; inner circle/ part of the exclusive club &quot; status. I know, I made the same mistake once, and it cost me dear. One lives and lerans. But this shooting off the mouth shows an appalling lack of judgement by JM, and Joe Saliba was savvy enough to contain the damage, with the result that the MLP lost..... I daresay the conclusion is obvious. JM  lost the MLP an electin that they could have won, with the right TIMED strategy. They Lost. and now he is Lijder and the blame has ben put squarely on AS and Pepsodent Smiley&#039;s doorstep. JM, like Pilate. washed his hands of it. And got off scot free. Maybe this story should have come out earlier and the Delegati made privy to it, but then Gorg Abela would have been elected, and we would have a fight on our hands. I am an irredentist.....I said it before. A thousand Gorg Abela leading the MLP will not make me vote for it. So i agree. Vote Joseph, get PN next election. Joe Saliba, we have a lot to thank you for !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dap here. JM was like Karmeno Zero before him the Successur Iddizinjat &#8230;.tiftakruha din? And yes, My info was the same. JM shot his mouth off not because he secretly wanted JPO and the PN to know where the attack is coming from, but to show off his &#8220;connections&#8221; and his &#8220;political Savvy&#8221; and his &#8221; inner circle/ part of the exclusive club &#8221; status. I know, I made the same mistake once, and it cost me dear. One lives and lerans. But this shooting off the mouth shows an appalling lack of judgement by JM, and Joe Saliba was savvy enough to contain the damage, with the result that the MLP lost&#8230;.. I daresay the conclusion is obvious. JM  lost the MLP an electin that they could have won, with the right TIMED strategy. They Lost. and now he is Lijder and the blame has ben put squarely on AS and Pepsodent Smiley&#8217;s doorstep. JM, like Pilate. washed his hands of it. And got off scot free. Maybe this story should have come out earlier and the Delegati made privy to it, but then Gorg Abela would have been elected, and we would have a fight on our hands. I am an irredentist&#8230;..I said it before. A thousand Gorg Abela leading the MLP will not make me vote for it. So i agree. Vote Joseph, get PN next election. Joe Saliba, we have a lot to thank you for !</p>
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		By: Albert Farrugia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert Farrugia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[..oh...and thanks Daphne for finally &quot;coming out&quot; as a Nationalist supporter. You have in the past not really accepted being labelled as such.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..oh&#8230;and thanks Daphne for finally &#8220;coming out&#8221; as a Nationalist supporter. You have in the past not really accepted being labelled as such.</p>
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		By: Albert Farrugia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert Farrugia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is The Sunday Times report of what Joe Saliba said regarding the JPO case:

“Indirect hints given by Joseph Muscat during the election campaign enabled the Nationalist Party to deduce that the MLP was about to launch an attack on Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando, PN general secretary Joe Saliba tells The Sunday Times in an interview published today.
Dr Muscat never actually mentioned Dr Pullicino Orlando, but comments he made at different activities were enough for the PN to send Dr Pullicino Orlando to Dr Sant’s activities as the attack was about to be launched“.

This is, however, what Dr Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando stated the day before this Saliba interview was published:

“In the final days of February, I was informed by sources within the Malta Labour Party who were appalled by the negative campaigning which typified Dr. Alfred Sant’s approach to the 2008 Elections, that I was to be the focus of a concerted attack in the last week before the General Elections. I was also told that this attack was going to be planned and based around a project which was planned for a piece of land I own in Mistra which was rented out to third parties.“

While JPO clearly indicates he had internal sources WITHIN the MLP, who provided him with SPECIFIC AND PRECISE details,  Joe Saliba claims that the PN simply made intelligent guesswork, as it where, which led it to identify JPO as Sant’s possible “victim”, and so the party decided “to send JPO to Dr Sant’s activities”.

Who are we expected to believe? So is that how the Nationalist Party (not the “independent” columnists) plan to undermine Joseph Muscat? But telling outward lies?  Or was JPO lying? Yet again? Which is it? I would be grateful for any sensible explanation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is The Sunday Times report of what Joe Saliba said regarding the JPO case:</p>
<p>“Indirect hints given by Joseph Muscat during the election campaign enabled the Nationalist Party to deduce that the MLP was about to launch an attack on Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando, PN general secretary Joe Saliba tells The Sunday Times in an interview published today.<br />
Dr Muscat never actually mentioned Dr Pullicino Orlando, but comments he made at different activities were enough for the PN to send Dr Pullicino Orlando to Dr Sant’s activities as the attack was about to be launched“.</p>
<p>This is, however, what Dr Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando stated the day before this Saliba interview was published:</p>
<p>“In the final days of February, I was informed by sources within the Malta Labour Party who were appalled by the negative campaigning which typified Dr. Alfred Sant’s approach to the 2008 Elections, that I was to be the focus of a concerted attack in the last week before the General Elections. I was also told that this attack was going to be planned and based around a project which was planned for a piece of land I own in Mistra which was rented out to third parties.“</p>
<p>While JPO clearly indicates he had internal sources WITHIN the MLP, who provided him with SPECIFIC AND PRECISE details,  Joe Saliba claims that the PN simply made intelligent guesswork, as it where, which led it to identify JPO as Sant’s possible “victim”, and so the party decided “to send JPO to Dr Sant’s activities”.</p>
<p>Who are we expected to believe? So is that how the Nationalist Party (not the “independent” columnists) plan to undermine Joseph Muscat? But telling outward lies?  Or was JPO lying? Yet again? Which is it? I would be grateful for any sensible explanation.</p>
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		By: Uncle Fester		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle Fester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Daphne.  And you are telling me that you are not part of an overall Nationalist party machine, that you have no link to Richard Cachia Caruana and the gang of political wonks and opinion makers down at Tal-Pieta?  Come on Daphne the island is too small for that sort of game.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daphne.  And you are telling me that you are not part of an overall Nationalist party machine, that you have no link to Richard Cachia Caruana and the gang of political wonks and opinion makers down at Tal-Pieta?  Come on Daphne the island is too small for that sort of game.</p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Malcolm Buttigieg - the trouble with you is that you believe it takes Machiavellian sorcery to win an election, because your favoured party has flopped so repeatedly. It doesn&#039;t. It just takes brains and strategy. And the recognition that it&#039;s not the Labour Party that&#039;s a formidable opponent (it isn&#039;t; it&#039;s absolutely hopeless) but the army that votes for it thinking that there lies the answer to Malta&#039;s salvation.

And yes, my language is very precise. Neither Joe Saliba nor I, here, said that Joseph Muscat leaked the name, but that he gave the game away through blabbing unwisely in the wrong company. Which figures.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Malcolm Buttigieg &#8211; the trouble with you is that you believe it takes Machiavellian sorcery to win an election, because your favoured party has flopped so repeatedly. It doesn&#8217;t. It just takes brains and strategy. And the recognition that it&#8217;s not the Labour Party that&#8217;s a formidable opponent (it isn&#8217;t; it&#8217;s absolutely hopeless) but the army that votes for it thinking that there lies the answer to Malta&#8217;s salvation.</p>
<p>And yes, my language is very precise. Neither Joe Saliba nor I, here, said that Joseph Muscat leaked the name, but that he gave the game away through blabbing unwisely in the wrong company. Which figures.</p>
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