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		By: Uncle Fester		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/06/malays-are-people-from-malaysia/#comment-10168</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle Fester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Caphenni.  What are you wary about with the Labour Party?  Also if the Labour Party has not inspired the PN to become less hostile to gay people in 20 years it won&#039;t happen.  If the PN does something for gays it will be, as Daphne hinted, out of political expediency and not because of conviction.  Why should I vote for a party like that and hope that they may someday do the right thing if they think it is expedient for their purpose of maintaining power?  Certainly not when my other choice is a party that has done right by us consistently.

Alfred Sant was very up front at the last election when he was asked about gay issues.  He said that Labour was against discrimination against gay people and supports civil partnerships but does not support gay marriage.  I am sure that Muscat will hold the same positions on these issues and be more comfortable with gay people just because he is from a different generation.  Plus he voted favorably on gay issues in the European Parliament along with the other two Labour MEPS.

PN MEPS on the other hand voted against resolution condemning homophobia - what sort of a message is that?!  These votes need to be publicized more in the gay community so that the PN is held politically accountable for them.  Also all gay people who blindly vote PN because that is what their family tradition dictates need to be given a wake up call.  And those gays working with them should be &quot;outed&quot; if they take unfavorable stances on gay issues.

To quote Justyne Caruana referring to the Nationalists &quot;Tahsbux li dawn jixtiequlna xi gid tafux.&quot;  Anzi, nzid &quot;jixtiequlna kull deni&quot;.  Also don&#039;t forget that Lawrence Gonzi is a declared homophobe - someone that considers us to be so sub-human that he would not consider allowing a gay person to work on his team.  The choice is so clear Caphenni.  Vote PN you get a party led by a declared homophobe that believes homophobia is a good thing and has done nothing positive for gay people in the 20 years it has been in power.  Vote Labour you get a party that is against discrimination and has voted in our favor consistently on gay issues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Caphenni.  What are you wary about with the Labour Party?  Also if the Labour Party has not inspired the PN to become less hostile to gay people in 20 years it won&#8217;t happen.  If the PN does something for gays it will be, as Daphne hinted, out of political expediency and not because of conviction.  Why should I vote for a party like that and hope that they may someday do the right thing if they think it is expedient for their purpose of maintaining power?  Certainly not when my other choice is a party that has done right by us consistently.</p>
<p>Alfred Sant was very up front at the last election when he was asked about gay issues.  He said that Labour was against discrimination against gay people and supports civil partnerships but does not support gay marriage.  I am sure that Muscat will hold the same positions on these issues and be more comfortable with gay people just because he is from a different generation.  Plus he voted favorably on gay issues in the European Parliament along with the other two Labour MEPS.</p>
<p>PN MEPS on the other hand voted against resolution condemning homophobia &#8211; what sort of a message is that?!  These votes need to be publicized more in the gay community so that the PN is held politically accountable for them.  Also all gay people who blindly vote PN because that is what their family tradition dictates need to be given a wake up call.  And those gays working with them should be &#8220;outed&#8221; if they take unfavorable stances on gay issues.</p>
<p>To quote Justyne Caruana referring to the Nationalists &#8220;Tahsbux li dawn jixtiequlna xi gid tafux.&#8221;  Anzi, nzid &#8220;jixtiequlna kull deni&#8221;.  Also don&#8217;t forget that Lawrence Gonzi is a declared homophobe &#8211; someone that considers us to be so sub-human that he would not consider allowing a gay person to work on his team.  The choice is so clear Caphenni.  Vote PN you get a party led by a declared homophobe that believes homophobia is a good thing and has done nothing positive for gay people in the 20 years it has been in power.  Vote Labour you get a party that is against discrimination and has voted in our favor consistently on gay issues.</p>
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		By: Caphenni		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caphenni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Uncle Fester: You are even more hopeful than I am. I am still very wary about the Labour party. I really do hope that Joseph has the courage to talk about issues that matter but that aren&#039;t necessarily popular, and I hope he doesn&#039;t lose older traditional Labour supporters for doing so. I also hope he inspires PN to also tackle unpopular issues, although I have much less hope in that happening.

One thing I can say with certainty, if PN goes all out against the introduction of civil liberties and goes all Jesus&#039;-elvesy on us - it&#039;s going to be an all out war! :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Uncle Fester: You are even more hopeful than I am. I am still very wary about the Labour party. I really do hope that Joseph has the courage to talk about issues that matter but that aren&#8217;t necessarily popular, and I hope he doesn&#8217;t lose older traditional Labour supporters for doing so. I also hope he inspires PN to also tackle unpopular issues, although I have much less hope in that happening.</p>
<p>One thing I can say with certainty, if PN goes all out against the introduction of civil liberties and goes all Jesus&#8217;-elvesy on us &#8211; it&#8217;s going to be an all out war! :D</p>
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		By: Uncle Fester		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/06/malays-are-people-from-malaysia/#comment-10166</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle Fester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Caphenni.  I hope that Muscat will continue to update and renew Labour.  Labour has come a long way from being the Partit tal-Haddiema (as in blue collar only) of Mintoff/KMB days.  AS cleaned Labour of its violent elements and broadened its base to appeal to the middle class.  The mistake he made was to oppose EU entry.  Now that he has paid the ultimate political price for his folly (5 years too late) there is a new leader and a new beginning.  You&#039;re going to see him first reach out to his traditional Labour constituency, then clean up the party, set up a parliamentary team and policy groups that will help him update the party for 2013.  He will also need to get funding to match the well funded PN machine and bring some professional consultants on board to rebrand and remarket the party.  Reaching out to the gay community will be part of his strategy and we will be there to listen to people from Labour and to respond appropriately.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Caphenni.  I hope that Muscat will continue to update and renew Labour.  Labour has come a long way from being the Partit tal-Haddiema (as in blue collar only) of Mintoff/KMB days.  AS cleaned Labour of its violent elements and broadened its base to appeal to the middle class.  The mistake he made was to oppose EU entry.  Now that he has paid the ultimate political price for his folly (5 years too late) there is a new leader and a new beginning.  You&#8217;re going to see him first reach out to his traditional Labour constituency, then clean up the party, set up a parliamentary team and policy groups that will help him update the party for 2013.  He will also need to get funding to match the well funded PN machine and bring some professional consultants on board to rebrand and remarket the party.  Reaching out to the gay community will be part of his strategy and we will be there to listen to people from Labour and to respond appropriately.</p>
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		By: Caphenni		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caphenni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Amanda - really appreciate that. I thought we would have to argue it out all day hehe. I have an exam tomorrow so I should take a break from DCG.com lol.

@Unclue Fester - I am fully aware of all the points you brought up. And I do feel that I should vote for the party that respects my dignity and rights as a gay man. However, that is only if I see that both parties are competent to run the country. If I am a single-issue voter and only vote for the party that is ok with gay rights but incompetent when it comes to running a country as a whole, I will be acting very selfishly, like hunters or something.

Then again - I do not necessarily think the PN has proven itself to be very competent either - they&#039;re just better at marketing, and they look so good because we compare them to the disorganised and badly run MLP.

I&#039;m hoping that in the coming months and years Joseph Muscat will change his party enough for me to be able to vote for MLP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Amanda &#8211; really appreciate that. I thought we would have to argue it out all day hehe. I have an exam tomorrow so I should take a break from DCG.com lol.</p>
<p>@Unclue Fester &#8211; I am fully aware of all the points you brought up. And I do feel that I should vote for the party that respects my dignity and rights as a gay man. However, that is only if I see that both parties are competent to run the country. If I am a single-issue voter and only vote for the party that is ok with gay rights but incompetent when it comes to running a country as a whole, I will be acting very selfishly, like hunters or something.</p>
<p>Then again &#8211; I do not necessarily think the PN has proven itself to be very competent either &#8211; they&#8217;re just better at marketing, and they look so good because we compare them to the disorganised and badly run MLP.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping that in the coming months and years Joseph Muscat will change his party enough for me to be able to vote for MLP.</p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/06/malays-are-people-from-malaysia/#comment-10164</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@D. Fenech - Gonzi&#039;s smile is natural; Muscat&#039;s smile is a nervous tic]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@D. Fenech &#8211; Gonzi&#8217;s smile is natural; Muscat&#8217;s smile is a nervous tic</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I once sat next to Joseph Muscat on a flight to The Continent. He had the window seat and I had the aisle (because I like to stretch me old legs from time to time). I must say I was pleasantly surprised to be mistaken for a Frenchman, because he spoke to me in sign language (&quot;raised finger, finger pointed towards seat, finger re-curled&quot;). Naturally, I responded with a gravelly &quot;Allez-y!&quot; and a Belmondo eyebrow. Muscat was very quiet and well-behaved during the flight, listening to his iPod and reading a book, while I eyed the hostesses (before reeling back in horror) and twiddled my thumbs like a dumkopf. To his credit, neither did he stink, nor did he fart and burp or shriek for an AirMalta freebie pencil. And yes, he travelled in tourist class, just like us plebs. If only I had known that he&#039;d become Leader of the Opposition! I&#039;d have asked him for his autograph an&#039; all.

Farewell, then, Joseph. If you&#039;re reading this, and ever need to hire a consultant for the party, I&#039;m game. Against a hefty, well-deserved fee of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once sat next to Joseph Muscat on a flight to The Continent. He had the window seat and I had the aisle (because I like to stretch me old legs from time to time). I must say I was pleasantly surprised to be mistaken for a Frenchman, because he spoke to me in sign language (&#8220;raised finger, finger pointed towards seat, finger re-curled&#8221;). Naturally, I responded with a gravelly &#8220;Allez-y!&#8221; and a Belmondo eyebrow. Muscat was very quiet and well-behaved during the flight, listening to his iPod and reading a book, while I eyed the hostesses (before reeling back in horror) and twiddled my thumbs like a dumkopf. To his credit, neither did he stink, nor did he fart and burp or shriek for an AirMalta freebie pencil. And yes, he travelled in tourist class, just like us plebs. If only I had known that he&#8217;d become Leader of the Opposition! I&#8217;d have asked him for his autograph an&#8217; all.</p>
<p>Farewell, then, Joseph. If you&#8217;re reading this, and ever need to hire a consultant for the party, I&#8217;m game. Against a hefty, well-deserved fee of course.</p>
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		By: D Fenech		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D Fenech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@DCG
Only the night before, on Bondi+, he was grinning like a lunatic.
Didn&#039;t Gonzi do just that on Bondi+, the day after he won the election?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DCG<br />
Only the night before, on Bondi+, he was grinning like a lunatic.<br />
Didn&#8217;t Gonzi do just that on Bondi+, the day after he won the election?</p>
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		By: Albert Farrugia		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/06/malays-are-people-from-malaysia/#comment-10161</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert Farrugia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[...and take a look at the signs of the future....
http://www.pes.org/content/view/1353/72

[Moderator - What on earth is that press release? &#039;In the far north of the EU, Finland’s Social Democratic Party elected a woman ...&#039; Oh, no, they&#039;ve elected a woman - run for the hills!]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and take a look at the signs of the future&#8230;.<br />
<a href="http://www.pes.org/content/view/1353/72" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.pes.org/content/view/1353/72</a></p>
<p>[Moderator &#8211; What on earth is that press release? &#8216;In the far north of the EU, Finland’s Social Democratic Party elected a woman &#8230;&#8217; Oh, no, they&#8217;ve elected a woman &#8211; run for the hills!]</p>
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		By: Albert Farrugia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert Farrugia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seems like some are REALLY frustrated with this Joseph business. LOL Carry on the adjectives. And, of course, the Nationalist Party has nothing at all to do with this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like some are REALLY frustrated with this Joseph business. LOL Carry on the adjectives. And, of course, the Nationalist Party has nothing at all to do with this.</p>
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		By: Meerkat :)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meerkat :)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Mod

I thought you meant &#039;erection is five years off&#039; ya know with all the anatomical discourse going on here...taf int, Lejber using &#039;The Only Way is Up Viagra oh I mean Lejberrrr&#039; thingy song last erec...erm election.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mod</p>
<p>I thought you meant &#8216;erection is five years off&#8217; ya know with all the anatomical discourse going on here&#8230;taf int, Lejber using &#8216;The Only Way is Up Viagra oh I mean Lejberrrr&#8217; thingy song last erec&#8230;erm election.</p>
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