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		By: Kevin		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/06/stone-the-scarlet-women/#comment-11202</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why do many readers go into arguments about whether the state should help those who are underprivileged or not, as if THEY are the ones forking out the money?

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Because they ARE the ones forking out the money. The government does not have a money-tree.]
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Let&#039;s try to help those who find themselves in difficult situations like single mothers and live on. Why do we measure our lives by passing comments about people in difficulty? Sometimes I suspect that these people are the ones who contribute least in society.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do many readers go into arguments about whether the state should help those who are underprivileged or not, as if THEY are the ones forking out the money?</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Because they ARE the ones forking out the money. The government does not have a money-tree.]<br />
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Let&#8217;s try to help those who find themselves in difficult situations like single mothers and live on. Why do we measure our lives by passing comments about people in difficulty? Sometimes I suspect that these people are the ones who contribute least in society.</p>
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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/06/stone-the-scarlet-women/#comment-11201</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Leonard Ellul Bonici:
&quot;I did not say that there is no possibility of multiple pregnancies.&quot;

Yes you did.

&quot;In vitro fertilization is done outside the women s wombs and therefore there is no chance of multiple pregnancies.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leonard Ellul Bonici:<br />
&#8220;I did not say that there is no possibility of multiple pregnancies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes you did.</p>
<p>&#8220;In vitro fertilization is done outside the women s wombs and therefore there is no chance of multiple pregnancies.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Leonard Ellul Bonici		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leonard Ellul Bonici]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Corinne Vella / SB

  I did not say that there is no possibility of multiple pregnancies. Sybil gave the impression in his post that chances of multiple pregnancies in IVF is normal and there is risks of a weaker baby. The norm is that only 4 fertilised eggs are inserted, if the couple are lucky enough of having 4 fertilised eggs in one cycle. The possibility of a quadruplets is very rare besides there is nothing wrong in multiple pregnancy I can assure you cause I m triplet myself :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Corinne Vella / SB</p>
<p>  I did not say that there is no possibility of multiple pregnancies. Sybil gave the impression in his post that chances of multiple pregnancies in IVF is normal and there is risks of a weaker baby. The norm is that only 4 fertilised eggs are inserted, if the couple are lucky enough of having 4 fertilised eggs in one cycle. The possibility of a quadruplets is very rare besides there is nothing wrong in multiple pregnancy I can assure you cause I m triplet myself :)</p>
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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 04:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Leonard Ellul Bonici: Where did you get the idea that IVF carried out with the intent of pregnancy cannot result in multiple births?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leonard Ellul Bonici: Where did you get the idea that IVF carried out with the intent of pregnancy cannot result in multiple births?</p>
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		By: SB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Leonard ellul bonici

The success rate of IVF is 25%. Hence 4 ova are fertilised and implanted. However, 25% is just an average and so multiple pregnancies ARE possible after IVF.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Leonard ellul bonici</p>
<p>The success rate of IVF is 25%. Hence 4 ova are fertilised and implanted. However, 25% is just an average and so multiple pregnancies ARE possible after IVF.</p>
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		By: Leonard Ellul Bonici		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leonard Ellul Bonici]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Sybil

  Induced pregnancy is a result of Treatment given to a woman so she can produce more eggs, have nothing to do with IVF. In vitro fertilization is done outside the women s wombs and therefore there is no chance of multiple pregnancies.
St James have incubators but it has nothing to do with IVF treatment.

IVF is safe and has no risks its a simple procedure of inserting sperm into an ovum.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sybil</p>
<p>  Induced pregnancy is a result of Treatment given to a woman so she can produce more eggs, have nothing to do with IVF. In vitro fertilization is done outside the women s wombs and therefore there is no chance of multiple pregnancies.<br />
St James have incubators but it has nothing to do with IVF treatment.</p>
<p>IVF is safe and has no risks its a simple procedure of inserting sperm into an ovum.</p>
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		By: Sybil		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sybil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do St James have a special baby care unit where the weaker siblings that result from of an IVF-induced  multiple pregnancy can be cared for until they are fit enough to lead an independent existance out of a incubator?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do St James have a special baby care unit where the weaker siblings that result from of an IVF-induced  multiple pregnancy can be cared for until they are fit enough to lead an independent existance out of a incubator?</p>
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		By: Leonard Ellul Bonici		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/06/stone-the-scarlet-women/#comment-11195</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leonard Ellul Bonici]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Zizzu


 IVF procedure is also done on humans, the pioneers for this reproductive assistance technique were Belgians and they started this procedure way back in 1978. In Malta only St James Hospital do IVF , they has a very good track record which compare very well with other hospitals in Europe. Pregnancy rate is about 35% , St James started ten years ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Zizzu</p>
<p> IVF procedure is also done on humans, the pioneers for this reproductive assistance technique were Belgians and they started this procedure way back in 1978. In Malta only St James Hospital do IVF , they has a very good track record which compare very well with other hospitals in Europe. Pregnancy rate is about 35% , St James started ten years ago.</p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/06/stone-the-scarlet-women/#comment-11194</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Parthenogenesis presupposes that there&#039;s no father. A virgin birth presupposes that there&#039;s no sex. In the biblical virgin birth, there was no parthenogenesis because there was a father: God. You might greet this with a cough, but there you go.

Michael Debono: if you write about people, and politicians are people, then you have to be personal. Otherwise, what you get is the kind of obfsucation that has benighted our newspapers for decades. Read a few London newspapers (not the Daily Mirror) and you&#039;ll see what I mean. Incidentally, the roles of teacher and columnist are completely separate and different. Columnists are not paid to teach, but to inform and above all, to entertain.

Your question about the confusion over the virgin birth: so as to translate a document faithfully, you have to know the precise meanings of words. We do not know whether the translators/compilers of what we know as the New Testament today were truly familiar with the idiomatic meaning of the scripts they translated. The word they translated as &#039;virgin&#039; may have simply meant &#039;young woman&#039;. There is an embedded contradiction in talking about a &#039;married virgin&#039;, especially when the period you are referring to is 2000 years ago and it was the act of sexual intercourse that brought the marriage into effect. But there in no interest in researching this further because the virgin birth and the idea that Jesus was the son of God, not an ordinary mortal with exceptional charisma, underpins the entire religion. it does make for an interesting thought, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parthenogenesis presupposes that there&#8217;s no father. A virgin birth presupposes that there&#8217;s no sex. In the biblical virgin birth, there was no parthenogenesis because there was a father: God. You might greet this with a cough, but there you go.</p>
<p>Michael Debono: if you write about people, and politicians are people, then you have to be personal. Otherwise, what you get is the kind of obfsucation that has benighted our newspapers for decades. Read a few London newspapers (not the Daily Mirror) and you&#8217;ll see what I mean. Incidentally, the roles of teacher and columnist are completely separate and different. Columnists are not paid to teach, but to inform and above all, to entertain.</p>
<p>Your question about the confusion over the virgin birth: so as to translate a document faithfully, you have to know the precise meanings of words. We do not know whether the translators/compilers of what we know as the New Testament today were truly familiar with the idiomatic meaning of the scripts they translated. The word they translated as &#8216;virgin&#8217; may have simply meant &#8216;young woman&#8217;. There is an embedded contradiction in talking about a &#8216;married virgin&#8217;, especially when the period you are referring to is 2000 years ago and it was the act of sexual intercourse that brought the marriage into effect. But there in no interest in researching this further because the virgin birth and the idea that Jesus was the son of God, not an ordinary mortal with exceptional charisma, underpins the entire religion. it does make for an interesting thought, though.</p>
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		By: Michael Debono		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Debono]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Parthenogenesis though this mode of conception is more an attribute of certain inferior animal species and plants it can also occur in humans.
Many years ago, many does not mean hundred but some 30 or 40 years ago the Daily Mirror featured an article about the subject and published the photo of a woman and her daughter  a  clone of her mother, though the subject clone had not yet emerged, that was born through parthenogenesis.
It is easy to verify if the daily mirror keeps a record of its past numbers.
If I remember well it also gave the chances of being born in such a manner as 1 into 1 million.

[Moderator - The Daily Mirror?]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parthenogenesis though this mode of conception is more an attribute of certain inferior animal species and plants it can also occur in humans.<br />
Many years ago, many does not mean hundred but some 30 or 40 years ago the Daily Mirror featured an article about the subject and published the photo of a woman and her daughter  a  clone of her mother, though the subject clone had not yet emerged, that was born through parthenogenesis.<br />
It is easy to verify if the daily mirror keeps a record of its past numbers.<br />
If I remember well it also gave the chances of being born in such a manner as 1 into 1 million.</p>
<p>[Moderator &#8211; The Daily Mirror?]</p>
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