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		By: philip dupuis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@moderator: what&#039;s wrong to belong to a forgotten race. You are a racist. They are human beings No! be carefull because you are becoming transparent.
How I would love to belong to such a race that do not have to bear such people as certain bloggers disciples of you know who.
 E.O.E]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@moderator: what&#8217;s wrong to belong to a forgotten race. You are a racist. They are human beings No! be carefull because you are becoming transparent.<br />
How I would love to belong to such a race that do not have to bear such people as certain bloggers disciples of you know who.<br />
 E.O.E</p>
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		By: Kev		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/08/notebook-2/#comment-12942</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne, my main point is that you&#039;re preaching to the converted while helping distort rational discourse through the threat of &#039;racist&#039; labeling.

The Netherlands come first in post-WWII education in Political Correctness, but they have among the worst anti-immigration sentiments in Europe. That says a lot about current popular sentiment (it is far worse in Eastern Europe), which is generally labeled &#039;far right&#039; by the MSM. Yet, as you know, people like Pim Fortuyn, assassinated in 2002 by a neo-moralist (Green), are in fact true liberals, not conservative nationalists.

Pim Fortuyn had maintained that &quot;Holland is full&quot; - racism had absolutely nothing to do with it. The gay Fortuyn also feared the sentiments of the Muslim communities that democratically campaigned against gays and liberal thinking in Holland. That&#039;s where freedom, democracy and unassimilated cultures collide (unassimilation is extremely problematic, as Britain&#039;s &quot;ethnic diversity&quot; project has shown).

It all gets very sad and dangerous when neo-con influences are echoed across the pond and into Europe - the crusade against &quot;Islamo-fascists&quot; and &quot;trr&#039;rsts&quot;, when the real fascists are those currently trying to provoke war against Iran just because its rulers won&#039;t submit to the imperial whims of the US.

Malta has come to face the immigration issue at a time when most of Western Europe is nearing a closure of some sort. The end is still far off, yet it is the beginning of a closure nonetheless and it ushers no paradise. Berlusconi&#039;s fingerprinting of the Romany people is only the beginning.

Don&#039;t expect to sucessfully preach to the Maltese at times like these. Your opinions are rejected because to the vast majority they make little sense. They come out as irrational. That is why you&#039;re preaching to the converted.

You&#039;re right, though, in that the goody-goody-seat is not so comfortable for you, this being Malta. It is however goody-goody throughout Western Europe - the favourite of champagne socialists and the rest of the centrists, in fact.

@ Amanda Mallia - I don&#039;t profess to have solutions. But calling the reasonably pre-occupied &#039;racists&#039; does not help.
We are EU members. We should make it clear at EU level that we are not ready to be burdened more than other EU countries (as the current rate per capita shows). The Greek police, for example, are notorious at breaching EURODUC, failing to register African immigrants and letting them slide off into Albania or Italy. That&#039;s the only type of pressure they understand. What would the Italians do? Bomb us? Impose a fine through the EU Court? Or would they rather try their best to share the burden with the other big states?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne, my main point is that you&#8217;re preaching to the converted while helping distort rational discourse through the threat of &#8216;racist&#8217; labeling.</p>
<p>The Netherlands come first in post-WWII education in Political Correctness, but they have among the worst anti-immigration sentiments in Europe. That says a lot about current popular sentiment (it is far worse in Eastern Europe), which is generally labeled &#8216;far right&#8217; by the MSM. Yet, as you know, people like Pim Fortuyn, assassinated in 2002 by a neo-moralist (Green), are in fact true liberals, not conservative nationalists.</p>
<p>Pim Fortuyn had maintained that &#8220;Holland is full&#8221; &#8211; racism had absolutely nothing to do with it. The gay Fortuyn also feared the sentiments of the Muslim communities that democratically campaigned against gays and liberal thinking in Holland. That&#8217;s where freedom, democracy and unassimilated cultures collide (unassimilation is extremely problematic, as Britain&#8217;s &#8220;ethnic diversity&#8221; project has shown).</p>
<p>It all gets very sad and dangerous when neo-con influences are echoed across the pond and into Europe &#8211; the crusade against &#8220;Islamo-fascists&#8221; and &#8220;trr&#8217;rsts&#8221;, when the real fascists are those currently trying to provoke war against Iran just because its rulers won&#8217;t submit to the imperial whims of the US.</p>
<p>Malta has come to face the immigration issue at a time when most of Western Europe is nearing a closure of some sort. The end is still far off, yet it is the beginning of a closure nonetheless and it ushers no paradise. Berlusconi&#8217;s fingerprinting of the Romany people is only the beginning.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t expect to sucessfully preach to the Maltese at times like these. Your opinions are rejected because to the vast majority they make little sense. They come out as irrational. That is why you&#8217;re preaching to the converted.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, though, in that the goody-goody-seat is not so comfortable for you, this being Malta. It is however goody-goody throughout Western Europe &#8211; the favourite of champagne socialists and the rest of the centrists, in fact.</p>
<p>@ Amanda Mallia &#8211; I don&#8217;t profess to have solutions. But calling the reasonably pre-occupied &#8216;racists&#8217; does not help.<br />
We are EU members. We should make it clear at EU level that we are not ready to be burdened more than other EU countries (as the current rate per capita shows). The Greek police, for example, are notorious at breaching EURODUC, failing to register African immigrants and letting them slide off into Albania or Italy. That&#8217;s the only type of pressure they understand. What would the Italians do? Bomb us? Impose a fine through the EU Court? Or would they rather try their best to share the burden with the other big states?</p>
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		By: Amanda Mallia		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/08/notebook-2/#comment-12941</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some of the comments posted on this link just goes to show the sheer ignorance of some people:

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080807/local/120-migrants-stranded-on-drifting-boat]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the comments posted on this link just goes to show the sheer ignorance of some people:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080807/local/120-migrants-stranded-on-drifting-boat" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080807/local/120-migrants-stranded-on-drifting-boat</a></p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/08/notebook-2/#comment-12940</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kevin, it&#039;s all down to ignorance. Maltese people are among the most poorly educated in Europe. I won&#039;t say Tne West, because the USA takes all the honours there. All this schooling had led to nothing except the closure of minds. People don&#039;t read, they don&#039;t get out and about, they don&#039;t take an interest in anything that isn&#039;t of direct relevance to their lives, and haven&#039;t you noticed that most people here don&#039;t know how to have a conversation or discuss things? &quot;Allura x&#039;tahseb, sinjura?&quot; &quot;emmm, heqqq, hekk u hekk hux. Opinjoni....&quot;. The trouble with small societies is that the people within them tend to be narrow-minded and bigoted, but there shouldn&#039;t be any excuse for that in the media age.

And my &#039;goody-goody opinions&#039;, as you call them, are not comfortable at all. Our house was set on fire while we were asleep a couple of years ago, remember? The comfortable opinion to hold in Malta is the racist one, or even better, the &#039;I am not a racist but...&quot; one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, it&#8217;s all down to ignorance. Maltese people are among the most poorly educated in Europe. I won&#8217;t say Tne West, because the USA takes all the honours there. All this schooling had led to nothing except the closure of minds. People don&#8217;t read, they don&#8217;t get out and about, they don&#8217;t take an interest in anything that isn&#8217;t of direct relevance to their lives, and haven&#8217;t you noticed that most people here don&#8217;t know how to have a conversation or discuss things? &#8220;Allura x&#8217;tahseb, sinjura?&#8221; &#8220;emmm, heqqq, hekk u hekk hux. Opinjoni&#8230;.&#8221;. The trouble with small societies is that the people within them tend to be narrow-minded and bigoted, but there shouldn&#8217;t be any excuse for that in the media age.</p>
<p>And my &#8216;goody-goody opinions&#8217;, as you call them, are not comfortable at all. Our house was set on fire while we were asleep a couple of years ago, remember? The comfortable opinion to hold in Malta is the racist one, or even better, the &#8216;I am not a racist but&#8230;&#8221; one.</p>
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		By: Amanda Mallia		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/08/notebook-2/#comment-12939</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kev - And your solution would be?

Face facts!  It is a problem to which there is no immediate solution, unless, of course, you intend to have the various watchtowers manned once again, this time to shoot these unfortunate people lest they dare approach our shores.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kev &#8211; And your solution would be?</p>
<p>Face facts!  It is a problem to which there is no immediate solution, unless, of course, you intend to have the various watchtowers manned once again, this time to shoot these unfortunate people lest they dare approach our shores.</p>
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		By: Kev		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/08/notebook-2/#comment-12938</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK, Daphne, that&#039;s a step forward - you can&#039;t just draw a line, true, but you still need to tackle the logistical problems, which, left unattended, can only increase racist perceptions. As I see it, you simply hope the problem will either fade away or somehow solve itself in time.

As to my stoning example, it was, as pointed out, just an example taken to the extreme. What I meant to say is that with increasing numbers comes democratic say, which in turn should influence the enactment of future laws.

The debate is stifled and distorted when all those who show preoccupation are labeled &#039;racists&#039;. Your goody-goody stance is a comfortable one, yet it offers no solutions - unless you manage to convert the majority perception. Yet perceptions change not because people are converted, but because they eventually die. The problem is that the perceptions of the younger generations are not getting any better. That is why I am not as hopeful as you seem to be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Daphne, that&#8217;s a step forward &#8211; you can&#8217;t just draw a line, true, but you still need to tackle the logistical problems, which, left unattended, can only increase racist perceptions. As I see it, you simply hope the problem will either fade away or somehow solve itself in time.</p>
<p>As to my stoning example, it was, as pointed out, just an example taken to the extreme. What I meant to say is that with increasing numbers comes democratic say, which in turn should influence the enactment of future laws.</p>
<p>The debate is stifled and distorted when all those who show preoccupation are labeled &#8216;racists&#8217;. Your goody-goody stance is a comfortable one, yet it offers no solutions &#8211; unless you manage to convert the majority perception. Yet perceptions change not because people are converted, but because they eventually die. The problem is that the perceptions of the younger generations are not getting any better. That is why I am not as hopeful as you seem to be.</p>
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		By: Guzeppi Grech		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/08/notebook-2/#comment-12937</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stalin hated dogs....and he killed and exiled more people than Hitler. Both were bastards and a skidmark on the underpants of humanity.

Let&#039;s not get into a dumb &quot;Dogs versus Cats&quot; debate.

Dogs are hierarchically based social animals; cats are not, mostly inclined to individual hunting rather than packs.

This is what makes dogs more &quot;obedient&quot; to those that they perceive as their more dominant pack leader.
Cats do not.
So what?

They both make great pets for different reasons. Anyone who hates one or the other should try and understand why.

Oh, and there are many who can&#039;t control a dog and whose dog won&#039;t obey them because they lack the necessary personality to earn its respect. They might as well have a cat, it keeps itself cleaner at least.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stalin hated dogs&#8230;.and he killed and exiled more people than Hitler. Both were bastards and a skidmark on the underpants of humanity.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not get into a dumb &#8220;Dogs versus Cats&#8221; debate.</p>
<p>Dogs are hierarchically based social animals; cats are not, mostly inclined to individual hunting rather than packs.</p>
<p>This is what makes dogs more &#8220;obedient&#8221; to those that they perceive as their more dominant pack leader.<br />
Cats do not.<br />
So what?</p>
<p>They both make great pets for different reasons. Anyone who hates one or the other should try and understand why.</p>
<p>Oh, and there are many who can&#8217;t control a dog and whose dog won&#8217;t obey them because they lack the necessary personality to earn its respect. They might as well have a cat, it keeps itself cleaner at least.</p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What are you insinuating, Catherine - that those who love dogs are deranged rulers? Hitler was also an obsessive vegetarian. Where does that leave other vegetarians?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you insinuating, Catherine &#8211; that those who love dogs are deranged rulers? Hitler was also an obsessive vegetarian. Where does that leave other vegetarians?</p>
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		By: CATherine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I want to emphatically correct the wrong impression being given here that &#039;Hitler loved animals&#039; - Correction - Hitler ONLY loved dogs and in fact specifically hated cats - and this is because - being megalomaniac he loved it so much when his dogs obeyed all his orders - but cats never obey orders - not just his but no ones orders.  That&#039;s why he really hated cats. So please stop insinuating that Hitler loved animals.  His love of dogs shows him for what he really is - a deranged ruler.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to emphatically correct the wrong impression being given here that &#8216;Hitler loved animals&#8217; &#8211; Correction &#8211; Hitler ONLY loved dogs and in fact specifically hated cats &#8211; and this is because &#8211; being megalomaniac he loved it so much when his dogs obeyed all his orders &#8211; but cats never obey orders &#8211; not just his but no ones orders.  That&#8217;s why he really hated cats. So please stop insinuating that Hitler loved animals.  His love of dogs shows him for what he really is &#8211; a deranged ruler.</p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another thing, Kevin - the law is the law. If it is against the law to stone people for adultery, then it is against the law to stone people for adultery. The law of the land - in Europe - supersedes religious law. That&#039;s why adultery and buggery are no longer crimes in Malta. But they were...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing, Kevin &#8211; the law is the law. If it is against the law to stone people for adultery, then it is against the law to stone people for adultery. The law of the land &#8211; in Europe &#8211; supersedes religious law. That&#8217;s why adultery and buggery are no longer crimes in Malta. But they were&#8230;</p>
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