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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/09/quick-redeem-those-gozitans/#comment-15263</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John: If you&#039;re going to make wild assertions, then state your standard. I assume you do not class yourself among the world&#039;s &quot;rich&quot;, though some of the poor you mention would think that you are.

&quot;Rich&quot; and &quot;poor&quot; are relative terms. Some of the &#039;poor workers&#039; you say are victims of the financial fallout could qualify as fat cats, even when compared to some CEOs here in Malta and elsewhere.

Not all poor people are victims of someone other than themselves and not all rich people are unfairly wealthy or indifferent to the poor.

Oh, and another thing - some of the most effective schemes set up to lift people out of poverty were initiated and financed by the wealthy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John: If you&#8217;re going to make wild assertions, then state your standard. I assume you do not class yourself among the world&#8217;s &#8220;rich&#8221;, though some of the poor you mention would think that you are.</p>
<p>&#8220;Rich&#8221; and &#8220;poor&#8221; are relative terms. Some of the &#8216;poor workers&#8217; you say are victims of the financial fallout could qualify as fat cats, even when compared to some CEOs here in Malta and elsewhere.</p>
<p>Not all poor people are victims of someone other than themselves and not all rich people are unfairly wealthy or indifferent to the poor.</p>
<p>Oh, and another thing &#8211; some of the most effective schemes set up to lift people out of poverty were initiated and financed by the wealthy.</p>
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		By: Pat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John:
You are really sinking into sandbox arguments now. Have I ever claimed myself to be an intellectual? I simply rebutted your arguments, as is appopriate in a discussion and you resort to calling me arrogant (first for claiming you have no evidence and then for supposedly pretending to be an intellectual).

Also, you still have not provided a single piece evidence for your previous assertions, so if you feel I&#039;m arrogant for pointing that out, then so be it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:<br />
You are really sinking into sandbox arguments now. Have I ever claimed myself to be an intellectual? I simply rebutted your arguments, as is appopriate in a discussion and you resort to calling me arrogant (first for claiming you have no evidence and then for supposedly pretending to be an intellectual).</p>
<p>Also, you still have not provided a single piece evidence for your previous assertions, so if you feel I&#8217;m arrogant for pointing that out, then so be it.</p>
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		By: john		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kenneth Cassar - Maybee I mentioned a wrong example - but what I wished to be meant was that the poor are always in the dulldrums because of the greed of fatt cats.

Pat - Yes you are arrogant because you think you are an intellectual,which you are not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenneth Cassar &#8211; Maybee I mentioned a wrong example &#8211; but what I wished to be meant was that the poor are always in the dulldrums because of the greed of fatt cats.</p>
<p>Pat &#8211; Yes you are arrogant because you think you are an intellectual,which you are not.</p>
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		By: CorinneVella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CorinneVella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mario P: Thank you, but it takes more than formal study to be able to do what I do. Vladimir knows that, hence the envy of the little man.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mario P: Thank you, but it takes more than formal study to be able to do what I do. Vladimir knows that, hence the envy of the little man.</p>
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		By: CorinneVella		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/09/quick-redeem-those-gozitans/#comment-15259</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CorinneVella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Vladimir：

It&#039;s kind of you to offer professional advice, but I&#039;m not inclined to take any from a bloodsucker who can&#039;t spell and who hides inadequacy behind a pseudonym. You sound like another of those &quot;I don&#039;t read her scribblings&quot; types, when you clearly do, so maybe you&#039;re just suffering from a bad case of ring sting because of the only spice in your life。

Try one of those bananas you mentioned - it can cure both problems, though it can&#039;t do much about the problems in your psyche.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vladimir：</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of you to offer professional advice, but I&#8217;m not inclined to take any from a bloodsucker who can&#8217;t spell and who hides inadequacy behind a pseudonym. You sound like another of those &#8220;I don&#8217;t read her scribblings&#8221; types, when you clearly do, so maybe you&#8217;re just suffering from a bad case of ring sting because of the only spice in your life。</p>
<p>Try one of those bananas you mentioned &#8211; it can cure both problems, though it can&#8217;t do much about the problems in your psyche.</p>
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		By: Pat		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/09/quick-redeem-those-gozitans/#comment-15258</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John:
The Catholic Church have been losing power in a constant rate during the last four centuries. There is no reason to believe that is going to change. Now I don&#039;t believe we will ever see a complete riddance of the church, especially not in either of our lifetimes, but my point was as you seemed to think the bible is somehow magical due to the vastness of it, my &quot;parable&quot; with the Collected Sayings of Chairman Mao should put that book in the same light, by your reasoning.

And yes, I do consider your arguments to be completely void of evidence. Call me arrogant, I just don&#039;t care, it&#039;s still true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:<br />
The Catholic Church have been losing power in a constant rate during the last four centuries. There is no reason to believe that is going to change. Now I don&#8217;t believe we will ever see a complete riddance of the church, especially not in either of our lifetimes, but my point was as you seemed to think the bible is somehow magical due to the vastness of it, my &#8220;parable&#8221; with the Collected Sayings of Chairman Mao should put that book in the same light, by your reasoning.</p>
<p>And yes, I do consider your arguments to be completely void of evidence. Call me arrogant, I just don&#8217;t care, it&#8217;s still true.</p>
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		By: Anthony Briffa		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/09/quick-redeem-those-gozitans/#comment-15257</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Briffa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Us Gozitans are proud to be - Gozitans!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Us Gozitans are proud to be &#8211; Gozitans!</p>
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		By: Kenneth Cassar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenneth Cassar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ John:

The parable of Lazarus ends with both men dying, and the beggar &quot;receiving his reward in the afterlife, in Abraham&#039;s bosom at the everlasting banquet&quot;, while the rich man &quot;craved a drop of water from Lazarus&#039; finger to cool his tongue, as he was tormented with fire&quot;.

If in the &quot;American financial breakdown&quot; the Chief Executives got away with it, then the parable has a completely opposite ending.

Regarding the &quot;Christian churces&quot; and the &quot;Catholic church&quot; being &quot;here to stay&quot;, this does not prove anything.  What if Fundamentalist Muslims kill all Christians?  Would this mean that Christianity is false?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ John:</p>
<p>The parable of Lazarus ends with both men dying, and the beggar &#8220;receiving his reward in the afterlife, in Abraham&#8217;s bosom at the everlasting banquet&#8221;, while the rich man &#8220;craved a drop of water from Lazarus&#8217; finger to cool his tongue, as he was tormented with fire&#8221;.</p>
<p>If in the &#8220;American financial breakdown&#8221; the Chief Executives got away with it, then the parable has a completely opposite ending.</p>
<p>Regarding the &#8220;Christian churces&#8221; and the &#8220;Catholic church&#8221; being &#8220;here to stay&#8221;, this does not prove anything.  What if Fundamentalist Muslims kill all Christians?  Would this mean that Christianity is false?</p>
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		By: john		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pat - About the parable of Lazurus You have a clear picture in front of your eyes the American finincial breakdown. The rich - the fatt cats - the Chief Executives got away with it and the poor worker is in dulldums. And how arrogant are you to say that I brought no evidence.

About the Book. The Cina of Mao&#039;s desire is gone but the Christian Churches are here to stay especially THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat &#8211; About the parable of Lazurus You have a clear picture in front of your eyes the American finincial breakdown. The rich &#8211; the fatt cats &#8211; the Chief Executives got away with it and the poor worker is in dulldums. And how arrogant are you to say that I brought no evidence.</p>
<p>About the Book. The Cina of Mao&#8217;s desire is gone but the Christian Churches are here to stay especially THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.</p>
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		By: Pat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To recap:
&quot;Redeem yourself Daphne. The Catholic Church was the first institution that provided social services to  the Elderly,the poor,the parentless children,etc. YOU the rich walked awawy like the Pharisee in the New Testment.&quot;

This was already proven wrong, but no follow up was offered by you.

&quot;The one who said that he does not believe in God he may have forgot that the Bible is the most read book in the WORLD.&quot;

This I answered to as well. Did you know that the book with the second highest print run in history is the Collected Sayings of Chairman Mao? Does that mean that Mao Tse Tung is second only to God?

&quot;Corinne Vella can rest assured that I envy nobody but the parable in the most read book in the world about Lazarus is TRUE.&quot;

No it&#039;s not. See, I can make assertions too. Now we can turn this into a Monty Python sketch and go &quot;Yes it is&quot;, &quot;not it isn&#039;t&quot;, &quot;Yes it is&quot;, &quot;No it isn&#039;t&quot; for a couple of days if you want.

If you want to assert something, back it up.

As christoper Hitchens so eloquently put it &quot;What has been asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To recap:<br />
&#8220;Redeem yourself Daphne. The Catholic Church was the first institution that provided social services to  the Elderly,the poor,the parentless children,etc. YOU the rich walked awawy like the Pharisee in the New Testment.&#8221;</p>
<p>This was already proven wrong, but no follow up was offered by you.</p>
<p>&#8220;The one who said that he does not believe in God he may have forgot that the Bible is the most read book in the WORLD.&#8221;</p>
<p>This I answered to as well. Did you know that the book with the second highest print run in history is the Collected Sayings of Chairman Mao? Does that mean that Mao Tse Tung is second only to God?</p>
<p>&#8220;Corinne Vella can rest assured that I envy nobody but the parable in the most read book in the world about Lazarus is TRUE.&#8221;</p>
<p>No it&#8217;s not. See, I can make assertions too. Now we can turn this into a Monty Python sketch and go &#8220;Yes it is&#8221;, &#8220;not it isn&#8217;t&#8221;, &#8220;Yes it is&#8221;, &#8220;No it isn&#8217;t&#8221; for a couple of days if you want.</p>
<p>If you want to assert something, back it up.</p>
<p>As christoper Hitchens so eloquently put it &#8220;What has been asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence&#8221;.</p>
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