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		By: Jomar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jomar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Depends on the size of the mistakes, Gerald. Bet you a coffee that the RJA losses were less than the cost overrun in one Bugibba project I know of.

Where was Joseph when serious matters were being discussed in Parliament?  Who cares? As if Joseph had any answers.Besides he may have agreed to let Alfred take his place since the latter was so preoccupied with his &#039;confidential&#039; e-mails which may have been hacked.

Makes me wonder sometimes whether poor Joseph is on probation and Alfie still standing by in case Joseph&#039;s report card earns him an &#039;F&#039;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends on the size of the mistakes, Gerald. Bet you a coffee that the RJA losses were less than the cost overrun in one Bugibba project I know of.</p>
<p>Where was Joseph when serious matters were being discussed in Parliament?  Who cares? As if Joseph had any answers.Besides he may have agreed to let Alfred take his place since the latter was so preoccupied with his &#8216;confidential&#8217; e-mails which may have been hacked.</p>
<p>Makes me wonder sometimes whether poor Joseph is on probation and Alfie still standing by in case Joseph&#8217;s report card earns him an &#8216;F&#8217;</p>
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		By: Gerald		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What about the RJ Avroliners which Air Malta lost its bottom off? I think we sold them to some African country for peanuts too. Every government, blue or red makes mistakes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the RJ Avroliners which Air Malta lost its bottom off? I think we sold them to some African country for peanuts too. Every government, blue or red makes mistakes.</p>
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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Albert Farrugia: He was busy talking to senior officials in Libya about oil exploration and immigration and setting up committees that will make proposals to Malta&#039;s government - if they agree on anything, that is.

Oh and he thanked Mintoff for his continuing interest in Muscat&#039;s visit and gave a press conference in which he announced the imminent publication of the MLP&#039;s technical analysis of the new utility rates.

Let&#039;s hope it won&#039;t take five years of hindsight to get that done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Albert Farrugia: He was busy talking to senior officials in Libya about oil exploration and immigration and setting up committees that will make proposals to Malta&#8217;s government &#8211; if they agree on anything, that is.</p>
<p>Oh and he thanked Mintoff for his continuing interest in Muscat&#8217;s visit and gave a press conference in which he announced the imminent publication of the MLP&#8217;s technical analysis of the new utility rates.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope it won&#8217;t take five years of hindsight to get that done.</p>
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		By: Isa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Isa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 07:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE above, just heard this morning news and he has been going around in Libya quite a bit - energy talks, being invited to congress or whatever with all Libyan personnel being present - gee waiting eagerly to see all the photos.  Guess they will be doing all the rounds in various Kazini socjalisti all over Malta  - What did
Michelle wear over there?  was she all wrapped up in silver? or in green?  cant wait to see and read about it!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE above, just heard this morning news and he has been going around in Libya quite a bit &#8211; energy talks, being invited to congress or whatever with all Libyan personnel being present &#8211; gee waiting eagerly to see all the photos.  Guess they will be doing all the rounds in various Kazini socjalisti all over Malta  &#8211; What did<br />
Michelle wear over there?  was she all wrapped up in silver? or in green?  cant wait to see and read about it!!</p>
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		By: Albert Farrugia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert Farrugia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am no staunch Labourite. Its just that I believe in left-wing politics as advocated by Social-Democrat parties in Europe and the Democrats in the USA. I also firmly believe that this country needs a change. But I am no fanatic. I have no ties to any party. As we say in maltese &quot;Hadd ma jgibhieli shuna&quot;.
I have one question in my mind tonight: Where the heck is Joseph Muscat? He was last seen boarding a plane to Libya. Any idea what has become of him?
This week two very important items came up in ministerial statements in parliament: immigration and the financial crises. Joseph Muscat was absent for both occasions. When these would have been golden opportunites for him to etablish leadership in the House. Yet he was not there. A THREE day visit to Libya? What is going on?
Well, i am zaqqi f&#039;fommi. I am actually surprised Daphne has not brought this up.
Yes, I feel disappointed.

[&lt;strong&gt;Daphne - Hi Albert. You&#039;re right. I&#039;m already slipping into taking for granted Muscat&#039;s cavalier attitude towards his role. First he hangs around for months refusing to resign his MEP&#039;s seat and leaves the situation in limbo. Then, the moment parliament opens and he takes his seat in the house as leader of the opposition, he pops off to Libya and is absent for the first debates. He should have been right in there with a bang, but the man has no idea and nor do his ridiculous ta&#039; wara l-muntanji advisers. As though the Libya trip couldn&#039;t have waited.] &lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am no staunch Labourite. Its just that I believe in left-wing politics as advocated by Social-Democrat parties in Europe and the Democrats in the USA. I also firmly believe that this country needs a change. But I am no fanatic. I have no ties to any party. As we say in maltese &#8220;Hadd ma jgibhieli shuna&#8221;.<br />
I have one question in my mind tonight: Where the heck is Joseph Muscat? He was last seen boarding a plane to Libya. Any idea what has become of him?<br />
This week two very important items came up in ministerial statements in parliament: immigration and the financial crises. Joseph Muscat was absent for both occasions. When these would have been golden opportunites for him to etablish leadership in the House. Yet he was not there. A THREE day visit to Libya? What is going on?<br />
Well, i am zaqqi f&#8217;fommi. I am actually surprised Daphne has not brought this up.<br />
Yes, I feel disappointed.</p>
<p>[<strong>Daphne &#8211; Hi Albert. You&#8217;re right. I&#8217;m already slipping into taking for granted Muscat&#8217;s cavalier attitude towards his role. First he hangs around for months refusing to resign his MEP&#8217;s seat and leaves the situation in limbo. Then, the moment parliament opens and he takes his seat in the house as leader of the opposition, he pops off to Libya and is absent for the first debates. He should have been right in there with a bang, but the man has no idea and nor do his ridiculous ta&#8217; wara l-muntanji advisers. As though the Libya trip couldn&#8217;t have waited.] </strong></p>
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		By: A Camilleri		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Camilleri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Look at it this way. If it was your money, would you ever give up? I certainly wouldn&#039;t.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Read Maurice Caruana&#039;s comment.This is the USSR and Malta Socjalista we&#039;re talking about. Neither party was using its own money, hence all the playing around.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at it this way. If it was your money, would you ever give up? I certainly wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Read Maurice Caruana&#8217;s comment.This is the USSR and Malta Socjalista we&#8217;re talking about. Neither party was using its own money, hence all the playing around.]</strong></p>
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		By: Maurice Caruana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maurice Caruana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are right. They are. I know for sure because at that time I was Board Secretary to Malta Shipbuilding Co Ltd.
We were expected to build these vessels with resources that left much to be desired (inefficiency, inexperience, very low productivity). The Client kept on inventing problems to ensure that we would always seem to be in default. This was just a political contract and nothing else

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - So the USSR bought them without wanting them and with no intention of paying for them, and Malta tried to build them without knowing how. Fabulous. Where&#039;s that Victor Laiviera again?]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right. They are. I know for sure because at that time I was Board Secretary to Malta Shipbuilding Co Ltd.<br />
We were expected to build these vessels with resources that left much to be desired (inefficiency, inexperience, very low productivity). The Client kept on inventing problems to ensure that we would always seem to be in default. This was just a political contract and nothing else</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; So the USSR bought them without wanting them and with no intention of paying for them, and Malta tried to build them without knowing how. Fabulous. Where&#8217;s that Victor Laiviera again?]</strong></p>
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		By: Marku		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marku]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe Russia can be Joey&#039;s next overseas trip...

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - That&#039;s one place where a silver dress won&#039;t look ta&#039; cacu.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Russia can be Joey&#8217;s next overseas trip&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; That&#8217;s one place where a silver dress won&#8217;t look ta&#8217; cacu.]</strong></p>
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		By: Stanley J A Clews		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stanley J A Clews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Quite correct they were built at Marsa by Malta Shipbuilding Yard, Mintoff&#039;s big &quot;white elephant&quot;. The employees had been transferred from the Main Yard and 200 14/15-year-old lads (some who could not read or write) were taken on as intermediate trade trainees.

[&lt;strong&gt;Daphne - And according to some staunch Labourites lurking on this blog unheard and unseen - but nonetheless very present - those were the golden years.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite correct they were built at Marsa by Malta Shipbuilding Yard, Mintoff&#8217;s big &#8220;white elephant&#8221;. The employees had been transferred from the Main Yard and 200 14/15-year-old lads (some who could not read or write) were taken on as intermediate trade trainees.</p>
<p>[<strong>Daphne &#8211; And according to some staunch Labourites lurking on this blog unheard and unseen &#8211; but nonetheless very present &#8211; those were the golden years.]</strong></p>
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		By: Mario P		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mario P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[probably the amount due was reduced substantially by the charges imposed by the bank - poor sods, they have to make a living too!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>probably the amount due was reduced substantially by the charges imposed by the bank &#8211; poor sods, they have to make a living too!!</p>
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