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		By: Antoine Vella		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/10/iceland/#comment-15961</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antoine Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kev
&quot;Do you jump high from inside your trench in order to capture your worldview, or do you use WWII periscope?&quot;

Neither. I use a micro-chip inserted inside my body by the EU secret police.

Regarding your other comment, I&#039;m much older than Corinne but I have another chip which keeps me young.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kev<br />
&#8220;Do you jump high from inside your trench in order to capture your worldview, or do you use WWII periscope?&#8221;</p>
<p>Neither. I use a micro-chip inserted inside my body by the EU secret police.</p>
<p>Regarding your other comment, I&#8217;m much older than Corinne but I have another chip which keeps me young.</p>
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		By: Kev		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/10/iceland/#comment-15960</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, look, I had forgotten about you, Corinne.

You have not upset me, but your empty assumptions annoy me somewhat. For example, I brought Naomi Wold into the scene only because I thought she spoke your language. Evidently, you lurk in some past age and there you will remain. Otherwise, let me assure you that Naomi is newer to this field than I am.

@ Antoine - you must be much older than Corinne. Do you jump high from inside your trench in order to capture your worldview, or do you use WWII periscope?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, look, I had forgotten about you, Corinne.</p>
<p>You have not upset me, but your empty assumptions annoy me somewhat. For example, I brought Naomi Wold into the scene only because I thought she spoke your language. Evidently, you lurk in some past age and there you will remain. Otherwise, let me assure you that Naomi is newer to this field than I am.</p>
<p>@ Antoine &#8211; you must be much older than Corinne. Do you jump high from inside your trench in order to capture your worldview, or do you use WWII periscope?</p>
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		By: Alex		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/10/iceland/#comment-15959</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think some of you are too quick to knock down Kev. And what&#039;s worse, your replies are not very convincing. This blog doesn&#039;t seem to attract many people open to interesting debate, which is a pity. Too often issues are not discussed at all but simply condemned or supported, vigorously. Not very enlightening is it? In the long run all you&#039;re doing is strenghtening your own prejudices and self assuredness, without any possibility of open your minds a little further. Personally, I do not trust anyone who has an answer to everything, especially when it comes to international finance and politics. As if we all know what&#039;s what, from a to z, without any possibility of being wrong, or partly wrong, or not aware of the bigger picture (something many Maltese on both sides of the social divide seem to suffer from). This attitude (dualistic, us vs them, call it what you will) will do us no good, and in the end it will even destroy us. What pisses me off is that there seems to be no real awareness of this self-destructive streak in our culture. Ridiculing the Maltese language, spoken and written, and making out that the population in general is stupid will not get us anywhere either. Don&#039;t you think so?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some of you are too quick to knock down Kev. And what&#8217;s worse, your replies are not very convincing. This blog doesn&#8217;t seem to attract many people open to interesting debate, which is a pity. Too often issues are not discussed at all but simply condemned or supported, vigorously. Not very enlightening is it? In the long run all you&#8217;re doing is strenghtening your own prejudices and self assuredness, without any possibility of open your minds a little further. Personally, I do not trust anyone who has an answer to everything, especially when it comes to international finance and politics. As if we all know what&#8217;s what, from a to z, without any possibility of being wrong, or partly wrong, or not aware of the bigger picture (something many Maltese on both sides of the social divide seem to suffer from). This attitude (dualistic, us vs them, call it what you will) will do us no good, and in the end it will even destroy us. What pisses me off is that there seems to be no real awareness of this self-destructive streak in our culture. Ridiculing the Maltese language, spoken and written, and making out that the population in general is stupid will not get us anywhere either. Don&#8217;t you think so?</p>
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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/10/iceland/#comment-15958</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kevin Ellul Bonici: Oh dear. Upset you, have I?

You pop up from time to time to enlighten the savages and then can&#039;t understand why they don&#039;t appreciate the riches you bring. So you gather your skirts about you and flounce off in a huff, flinging down your beaded necklaces and brass rods on the way out.

It doesn&#039;t seem to occur to you that you might not be the first explorer the savages have encountered and they see you only as a source of temporary amusement. Has it occurred to you that your beaded necklaces and brass rods have no more value than the ones the savages have already appraised and discarded rather than piling them up in their longhouse?

I agree that it&#039;s tough call for you, but you really need to relax. Frankly, I can&#039;t understand why you&#039;re so excited about this bumf anyway. It all sounds like a school essay on unsecured value that I wrote nearly thirty years ago. Have you only just discovered it yourself, perhaps when you stumbled across Naomi Wolf?

At this rate, you&#039;ll be rattling on about the panopticon next. Now that&#039;s a conspiracy theory you&#039;d relish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin Ellul Bonici: Oh dear. Upset you, have I?</p>
<p>You pop up from time to time to enlighten the savages and then can&#8217;t understand why they don&#8217;t appreciate the riches you bring. So you gather your skirts about you and flounce off in a huff, flinging down your beaded necklaces and brass rods on the way out.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t seem to occur to you that you might not be the first explorer the savages have encountered and they see you only as a source of temporary amusement. Has it occurred to you that your beaded necklaces and brass rods have no more value than the ones the savages have already appraised and discarded rather than piling them up in their longhouse?</p>
<p>I agree that it&#8217;s tough call for you, but you really need to relax. Frankly, I can&#8217;t understand why you&#8217;re so excited about this bumf anyway. It all sounds like a school essay on unsecured value that I wrote nearly thirty years ago. Have you only just discovered it yourself, perhaps when you stumbled across Naomi Wolf?</p>
<p>At this rate, you&#8217;ll be rattling on about the panopticon next. Now that&#8217;s a conspiracy theory you&#8217;d relish.</p>
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		By: Antoine Vella		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/10/iceland/#comment-15957</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antoine Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kev
&quot;And if the bank card is reduced to a chip that’s inserted into our bodies, then you can only imagine what tyranny becomes possible.&quot;

You&#039;ve been living too long in Brussels. We&#039;re having a hard time here getting micro-chips inserted in dogs&#039; bodies, let alone human ones.

I can understand your anguish (not being sarcastic, honest) if you&#039;re imagining a sci-fi world where people are controlled by chips inserted in their bodies. Reminds me of The Prisoner (starring Patrick McGoohan and way before your time).

In the real world we inhabit that doesn&#039;t happen and I cannot see it happening any time soon. We&#039;ve hardly even started to have an e-ID.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kev<br />
&#8220;And if the bank card is reduced to a chip that’s inserted into our bodies, then you can only imagine what tyranny becomes possible.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve been living too long in Brussels. We&#8217;re having a hard time here getting micro-chips inserted in dogs&#8217; bodies, let alone human ones.</p>
<p>I can understand your anguish (not being sarcastic, honest) if you&#8217;re imagining a sci-fi world where people are controlled by chips inserted in their bodies. Reminds me of The Prisoner (starring Patrick McGoohan and way before your time).</p>
<p>In the real world we inhabit that doesn&#8217;t happen and I cannot see it happening any time soon. We&#8217;ve hardly even started to have an e-ID.</p>
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		By: Kev		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/10/iceland/#comment-15956</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Corinne, paper money is not sound money unless it&#039;s backed by precious metals. Digital money is much worse, because when your banker/state switches your card off you cannot use beads, coins or paper to buy your requirements. And if the bank card is reduced to a chip that&#039;s inserted into our bodies, then you can only imagine what tyranny becomes possible.

But you are the one who could not even understand how banks lend money they don&#039;t possess (to collect interests they don&#039;t deserve). So if you are at that stage, I&#039;ll opt not to waste much time here - to the bull you wrote, I suggest the following shit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgMx2F41XD0

And if you see no connection with what&#039;s going on, then tough! Clap your hands and praise the leaders you trust.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corinne, paper money is not sound money unless it&#8217;s backed by precious metals. Digital money is much worse, because when your banker/state switches your card off you cannot use beads, coins or paper to buy your requirements. And if the bank card is reduced to a chip that&#8217;s inserted into our bodies, then you can only imagine what tyranny becomes possible.</p>
<p>But you are the one who could not even understand how banks lend money they don&#8217;t possess (to collect interests they don&#8217;t deserve). So if you are at that stage, I&#8217;ll opt not to waste much time here &#8211; to the bull you wrote, I suggest the following shit: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgMx2F41XD0" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgMx2F41XD0</a></p>
<p>And if you see no connection with what&#8217;s going on, then tough! Clap your hands and praise the leaders you trust.</p>
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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/10/iceland/#comment-15955</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kevin Ellul Bonici: What are you on about? I don&#039;t see you picking capers back home in Lilliput in the name of self-sufficiency.

Digital money with no sound basis, eh? As opposed to what? Bank notes that are worth the paper they&#039;re printed on? Gold bars under the bed? Conch shells and steel axes in a multi-centric Stone Age economy?

And what&#039;s this about trust you are forced to afford to people you don’t know and never will? Do you really grow your own tofu and recycle your own sewage with your bare hands?

I think you need a new hobby. Your current one&#039;s wearing you out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin Ellul Bonici: What are you on about? I don&#8217;t see you picking capers back home in Lilliput in the name of self-sufficiency.</p>
<p>Digital money with no sound basis, eh? As opposed to what? Bank notes that are worth the paper they&#8217;re printed on? Gold bars under the bed? Conch shells and steel axes in a multi-centric Stone Age economy?</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s this about trust you are forced to afford to people you don’t know and never will? Do you really grow your own tofu and recycle your own sewage with your bare hands?</p>
<p>I think you need a new hobby. Your current one&#8217;s wearing you out.</p>
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		By: Antoine Vella		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/10/iceland/#comment-15954</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antoine Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Albert Farrugia

Are you implying that HSBC is a local bank? It does sell itself as &#039;the world&#039;s local bank&#039; but that&#039;s just an advertising slogan.

Your eulogy of Mintoff&#039;s narrow-mindedness is too ridiculous to merit an answer but, for your information, besides HSBC and the three local banks, there are other 8 offshore banks operating in Malta. (http://www.worldoffshorebanks.com/Malta.html)

I do, however, agree with that bit where you confess to having an insular mentality and blame Mintoff for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Albert Farrugia</p>
<p>Are you implying that HSBC is a local bank? It does sell itself as &#8216;the world&#8217;s local bank&#8217; but that&#8217;s just an advertising slogan.</p>
<p>Your eulogy of Mintoff&#8217;s narrow-mindedness is too ridiculous to merit an answer but, for your information, besides HSBC and the three local banks, there are other 8 offshore banks operating in Malta. (<a href="http://www.worldoffshorebanks.com/Malta.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.worldoffshorebanks.com/Malta.html</a>)</p>
<p>I do, however, agree with that bit where you confess to having an insular mentality and blame Mintoff for it.</p>
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		By: Kev		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/10/iceland/#comment-15953</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Corinne, soon you will be singing glories to a world currency being proposed by the same people who created this global ponzy scheme, well aware, of course, how ponzy schemes invariably end. These are the same people who have now taken over the US Treasury (and not just the Federal Reserve and the IMF and World Bank) and would like to take over all the world&#039;s treasuries in collusion with the international banking cartel spread across the globe. The Elites are the true internationalists - read globalists - not the socialists who sung the Internationale in bygone years (although some historians relate the two).

You would also be singing praise to digital money with no sound basis except for the trust you are forced to afford to people you don&#039;t know and never will.

The real power is in the hands of those who control the monetary system, not the marionettes you elect into government.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corinne, soon you will be singing glories to a world currency being proposed by the same people who created this global ponzy scheme, well aware, of course, how ponzy schemes invariably end. These are the same people who have now taken over the US Treasury (and not just the Federal Reserve and the IMF and World Bank) and would like to take over all the world&#8217;s treasuries in collusion with the international banking cartel spread across the globe. The Elites are the true internationalists &#8211; read globalists &#8211; not the socialists who sung the Internationale in bygone years (although some historians relate the two).</p>
<p>You would also be singing praise to digital money with no sound basis except for the trust you are forced to afford to people you don&#8217;t know and never will.</p>
<p>The real power is in the hands of those who control the monetary system, not the marionettes you elect into government.</p>
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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/10/iceland/#comment-15952</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Albert Farrugia: There is a difference between isolationism and self-sufficiency. Unless we all live in caves and forage for food, we won&#039;t ever be self-sufficient because we lack the necessary resources.  Even then there wouldn&#039;t be enough caves to go round and we could hardly survive on caper picking, one of Mintoff&#039;s less absurd economic innovations.

We import much of the food that is essential to our survival, and to the survival of one of our major industries (tourism), and use imported energy to drive the machinery needed to produce the food we do grow ourselves, to power our homes and to ensure we have water in our taps.

Need I go on?

Incidentally, Malta&#039;s banking sector includes HSBC, Volksbank, Fimbank, Banif...none of those banking brands are Maltese or deal solely with Maltese-owned businesses in Malta. I can&#039;t imagine their boards getting together and planning not to do business with &#039;forriners&#039;. Can you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Albert Farrugia: There is a difference between isolationism and self-sufficiency. Unless we all live in caves and forage for food, we won&#8217;t ever be self-sufficient because we lack the necessary resources.  Even then there wouldn&#8217;t be enough caves to go round and we could hardly survive on caper picking, one of Mintoff&#8217;s less absurd economic innovations.</p>
<p>We import much of the food that is essential to our survival, and to the survival of one of our major industries (tourism), and use imported energy to drive the machinery needed to produce the food we do grow ourselves, to power our homes and to ensure we have water in our taps.</p>
<p>Need I go on?</p>
<p>Incidentally, Malta&#8217;s banking sector includes HSBC, Volksbank, Fimbank, Banif&#8230;none of those banking brands are Maltese or deal solely with Maltese-owned businesses in Malta. I can&#8217;t imagine their boards getting together and planning not to do business with &#8216;forriners&#8217;. Can you?</p>
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