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		By: Sotto-Kmandant		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well done, Sharon! This country is full of U-turns and you`re a Maltese just like the others who pretended to be the saviours of our beloved country! KEEP IT UP SHARON! You`re the one who is showing your face, your truth and your courage against &quot;injustice&quot; and &quot;illiteracy&quot; in this country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done, Sharon! This country is full of U-turns and you`re a Maltese just like the others who pretended to be the saviours of our beloved country! KEEP IT UP SHARON! You`re the one who is showing your face, your truth and your courage against &#8220;injustice&#8221; and &#8220;illiteracy&#8221; in this country.</p>
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		By: Adrian Cassar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I understand your argument, believe me. First of all a separated couple can buy property together and live as a married couple, if they break up, just like in their previous marriage, split the cake in half. Now you said, get married if you want rights, hear this, I know a couple who were married for 20 years, the husband was givin the house before he married, to him, by his father, do you know, the wife was thrown out of the house empty handed, as the bastard had the house in the company name, where were her rights in marriage dear? I can give you facts, it&#039;s not fiction. I was refering about rights in the rent law, and not in other cases. Loop holes are what they are, and people use them, marriage rights my foot.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - You really have a lot to learn about the law, don&#039;t you? Well, this is how it works. Whatever you own before marriage is yours alone. So if you own a house before marriage, get married, and move into it with your spouse, your spouse has the right to live there if it is the marital home, even if the marriage comes to grief, but does not have the right to 50% of the property. Regarding the house being owned by a company - what can I say? Ignorance of the law is no excuse: if she was stupid enough to move into a house without checking who or what owned it, then she has only herself to blame. Trust is one thing; blind idiocy is another. The law is there to protect the weak not the stupid. And going to live in a house owned by a company is not a &#039;loophole in the law&#039;. This woman could have avoided all her problems by refusing to go an live in a house that belongs to somebody else.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your argument, believe me. First of all a separated couple can buy property together and live as a married couple, if they break up, just like in their previous marriage, split the cake in half. Now you said, get married if you want rights, hear this, I know a couple who were married for 20 years, the husband was givin the house before he married, to him, by his father, do you know, the wife was thrown out of the house empty handed, as the bastard had the house in the company name, where were her rights in marriage dear? I can give you facts, it&#8217;s not fiction. I was refering about rights in the rent law, and not in other cases. Loop holes are what they are, and people use them, marriage rights my foot.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; You really have a lot to learn about the law, don&#8217;t you? Well, this is how it works. Whatever you own before marriage is yours alone. So if you own a house before marriage, get married, and move into it with your spouse, your spouse has the right to live there if it is the marital home, even if the marriage comes to grief, but does not have the right to 50% of the property. Regarding the house being owned by a company &#8211; what can I say? Ignorance of the law is no excuse: if she was stupid enough to move into a house without checking who or what owned it, then she has only herself to blame. Trust is one thing; blind idiocy is another. The law is there to protect the weak not the stupid. And going to live in a house owned by a company is not a &#8216;loophole in the law&#8217;. This woman could have avoided all her problems by refusing to go an live in a house that belongs to somebody else.]</strong></p>
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		By: Adrian Cassar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No need for hysterics Daph,I do not have to get married to gain rights, I own my house, and I do not need any rent laws to protect me, so here goes. But in my opinion, why should one have to get married to have rights, why has marriage got to be the answer, as you stated. And who came up with the promises to draft cohabitation rights for the cohabitees, the PN, but just as usual promises and promises but never to be implemented. Just for votes, and then pahhhh, never to be heard of again. So spare me the empty words, I don&#039;t need them. I am happy as I am, but others are not, and no man is an Island.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Sigh. Look, Adrian, let me explain it to you in language you might be able to understand. You say you own your own house - bully for you; I admire that kind of initiative and hard work. You also say you are not homosexual. So let&#039;s say you start going out with a woman and quite like her. After a while, dropping her off at her house every night gets to be a little ridiculous, especially if she still lives with her parents or shares a place with friends. So you say, look, why don&#039;t you move in with me for a while, let&#039;s see how it goes. And she does. A year later, her charming idiosyncrasies have become major irritating habits and if she says Cheerio once more when she heads out of the house you are going to find it difficult to restrain yourself from hitting your head against the wall to avoid doing something much worse. In addition, you&#039;ve met somebody else and you&#039;ve fallen in love. You ask your live-in girlfriend to leave. She consults a lawyer and says, sorry honey, but I have rights. You can&#039;t throw me out. I&#039;m here to stay and you&#039;ll have to pay me to leave, or buy me another place.

Do you still think giving rights to people who  live together is a good idea?

To answer your question as to why you must get married to have rights: simple - marriage is a civil contract by which the two parties undertake various things, among them those rights and obligations. In all areas of life, contracts regulate agreements between people, and this is no different. What you are saying here - that people should have rights simply by dint of living together - is like saying that if I break into a house and squat in it, it becomes mine.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need for hysterics Daph,I do not have to get married to gain rights, I own my house, and I do not need any rent laws to protect me, so here goes. But in my opinion, why should one have to get married to have rights, why has marriage got to be the answer, as you stated. And who came up with the promises to draft cohabitation rights for the cohabitees, the PN, but just as usual promises and promises but never to be implemented. Just for votes, and then pahhhh, never to be heard of again. So spare me the empty words, I don&#8217;t need them. I am happy as I am, but others are not, and no man is an Island.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Sigh. Look, Adrian, let me explain it to you in language you might be able to understand. You say you own your own house &#8211; bully for you; I admire that kind of initiative and hard work. You also say you are not homosexual. So let&#8217;s say you start going out with a woman and quite like her. After a while, dropping her off at her house every night gets to be a little ridiculous, especially if she still lives with her parents or shares a place with friends. So you say, look, why don&#8217;t you move in with me for a while, let&#8217;s see how it goes. And she does. A year later, her charming idiosyncrasies have become major irritating habits and if she says Cheerio once more when she heads out of the house you are going to find it difficult to restrain yourself from hitting your head against the wall to avoid doing something much worse. In addition, you&#8217;ve met somebody else and you&#8217;ve fallen in love. You ask your live-in girlfriend to leave. She consults a lawyer and says, sorry honey, but I have rights. You can&#8217;t throw me out. I&#8217;m here to stay and you&#8217;ll have to pay me to leave, or buy me another place.</p>
<p>Do you still think giving rights to people who  live together is a good idea?</p>
<p>To answer your question as to why you must get married to have rights: simple &#8211; marriage is a civil contract by which the two parties undertake various things, among them those rights and obligations. In all areas of life, contracts regulate agreements between people, and this is no different. What you are saying here &#8211; that people should have rights simply by dint of living together &#8211; is like saying that if I break into a house and squat in it, it becomes mine.]</strong></p>
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		By: Adrian Cassar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As usual you assume and make an ass of yourself. I am not gay dear Daph (I mentioned separated people and others too), I was just making a point that Tonio Borg finds that drafting a rent law to protect minority groups is out of the question, being a consevative. I do not give a hoot really because I don&#039;t need any protection from anyone, I work and thank&#039;s God never asked for anything in my life, from anyone. And who&#039;s fault is it that we do not have divorce!!!! Why did Gonzi opt out of the divorce report in the EP to facilitate EU citizens from optaining a divorce in an aother EU country of residence or work? Why is the PN against divorce in Malta?
I thought by joining the EU these issues would be something of the past. The PN are taking us back to medival times.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - No, you are the one making an ass of yourself, by imagining that there can or even should be such a grotesque thing as a law to protect people who have no right to protection against eviction. I am going to repeat this until I am blue in the face: marriage is not a religious thing. It is a civil contract which gives the married parties rights that they would not have if they were not married. Hence, if you want those rights, you get married. If you don&#039;t want those rights, you don&#039;t get married. But you can&#039;t have your cake and eat it: you can&#039;t avoid marriage and still get the rights. Also, and this is a crucial point: if people avoid marriage so as to avoid those rights, how then can the state arrogate unto itself the ability to foist those rights and obligations on them regardless of the fact that they are not married and have sought thereby to avoid them? The act of living together shouldn&#039;t give people obligations towards each other. If they want those obligations, they get married. Obviously, if they haven&#039;t got married, they don&#039;t want them. People like you miss the wood for the trees. The problems are (1) the absence of divorce and (2) the absence of civil partnerships for homosexual couples. If Malta were to have those two things, then all this fussing about &#039;rights&#039; for cohabitees would be ridiculous nonsense (as it already is). If you want rights, you marry and get them. That&#039;s what marriage is for.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual you assume and make an ass of yourself. I am not gay dear Daph (I mentioned separated people and others too), I was just making a point that Tonio Borg finds that drafting a rent law to protect minority groups is out of the question, being a consevative. I do not give a hoot really because I don&#8217;t need any protection from anyone, I work and thank&#8217;s God never asked for anything in my life, from anyone. And who&#8217;s fault is it that we do not have divorce!!!! Why did Gonzi opt out of the divorce report in the EP to facilitate EU citizens from optaining a divorce in an aother EU country of residence or work? Why is the PN against divorce in Malta?<br />
I thought by joining the EU these issues would be something of the past. The PN are taking us back to medival times.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; No, you are the one making an ass of yourself, by imagining that there can or even should be such a grotesque thing as a law to protect people who have no right to protection against eviction. I am going to repeat this until I am blue in the face: marriage is not a religious thing. It is a civil contract which gives the married parties rights that they would not have if they were not married. Hence, if you want those rights, you get married. If you don&#8217;t want those rights, you don&#8217;t get married. But you can&#8217;t have your cake and eat it: you can&#8217;t avoid marriage and still get the rights. Also, and this is a crucial point: if people avoid marriage so as to avoid those rights, how then can the state arrogate unto itself the ability to foist those rights and obligations on them regardless of the fact that they are not married and have sought thereby to avoid them? The act of living together shouldn&#8217;t give people obligations towards each other. If they want those obligations, they get married. Obviously, if they haven&#8217;t got married, they don&#8217;t want them. People like you miss the wood for the trees. The problems are (1) the absence of divorce and (2) the absence of civil partnerships for homosexual couples. If Malta were to have those two things, then all this fussing about &#8216;rights&#8217; for cohabitees would be ridiculous nonsense (as it already is). If you want rights, you marry and get them. That&#8217;s what marriage is for.]</strong></p>
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		By: Adrian Cassar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Helen...yes I agree with you dear, you can&#039;t trust these guys especially the ones who are now taking the sheep skin off their backs, the ones who are declaring that they are not liberal but conservative. If you happen to be gay, separated or living in sin....pack up guys and leave the Island. There is no place for people like you here, no law will be drafted to cover your sorry ass. But, like I said before those who live in glass houses.....

[&lt;strong&gt;Daphne - Oh for crying out loud: homosexuals make their own problems here. The only thing you don&#039;t have that heterosexuals do is the ability to get married - and don&#039;t forget that there are literally thousands of heterosexual couples who can&#039;t get married either, because there is no divorce. How are they more privileged than a homosexual couple? All the homosexual people I know in Malta - men and women - live perfectly normal, happy, contented social lives and home lives. This is the golden rule: you have to accept yourself and the way you are if you want others to accept you, and that doesn&#039;t just apply to homosexuals. The ones who are miserable in Malta are those who, deep down, can&#039;t accept themselves and go around sniffing out rejection and prejudice, which they then find precisely because of their off-putting attitude.Malta is actually an extremely tolerant society, which might seem a paradox given the intolerance at legislative levels. But my observation has been that there are goings-on here that would never be considered acceptable elsewhere, except among the under-class.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Helen&#8230;yes I agree with you dear, you can&#8217;t trust these guys especially the ones who are now taking the sheep skin off their backs, the ones who are declaring that they are not liberal but conservative. If you happen to be gay, separated or living in sin&#8230;.pack up guys and leave the Island. There is no place for people like you here, no law will be drafted to cover your sorry ass. But, like I said before those who live in glass houses&#8230;..</p>
<p>[<strong>Daphne &#8211; Oh for crying out loud: homosexuals make their own problems here. The only thing you don&#8217;t have that heterosexuals do is the ability to get married &#8211; and don&#8217;t forget that there are literally thousands of heterosexual couples who can&#8217;t get married either, because there is no divorce. How are they more privileged than a homosexual couple? All the homosexual people I know in Malta &#8211; men and women &#8211; live perfectly normal, happy, contented social lives and home lives. This is the golden rule: you have to accept yourself and the way you are if you want others to accept you, and that doesn&#8217;t just apply to homosexuals. The ones who are miserable in Malta are those who, deep down, can&#8217;t accept themselves and go around sniffing out rejection and prejudice, which they then find precisely because of their off-putting attitude.Malta is actually an extremely tolerant society, which might seem a paradox given the intolerance at legislative levels. But my observation has been that there are goings-on here that would never be considered acceptable elsewhere, except among the under-class.]</strong></p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 19:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[u hallina Sharon...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u hallina Sharon&#8230;</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[@H.P.Baxxter

Good point.
Not only &#039;Religion is the Opiate of the People&#039;, politics is as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@H.P.Baxxter</p>
<p>Good point.<br />
Not only &#8216;Religion is the Opiate of the People&#8217;, politics is as well.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Who promised you paradise, Adrian? And if they did, what sort of gullible prat are you to believe them?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who promised you paradise, Adrian? And if they did, what sort of gullible prat are you to believe them?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@P.Shaw &quot;Hey everyone, the tragedy is that thousands are going to believe, and swallow everything M.EB is telling us. After it&#039;s too bloody late they&#039;ll no doubt then say. Mea Culpa....and that&#039;s the price of democracy for you!&quot;

Est modus in rebus, Mr P. Shaw, like we swallowed every word the Prime Minister uttered before the last election. I know so many people who are now saying Mea Culpa, that I lost count of the list. The government  promised one thing and is now doing the opposite. The same tragedy, of those  thousands who voted PN in the last election, believing every word of the PN promised, and that’s the price of democracy for you!, The promises, may I jog your memory, were to help the people decide whom to vote for, Il-par idejn soddi or for the infamous Sant.

We are now reaping what we sowed, yesterday. I paid 950 euros on my car insurance plus licence. What about the sky high electricity bills that Dr Gonzi tells us are to stop people from wasting electricity. We pay for what we use, so why interfere in our private life. Due to this, we are now living in a regressed state of having heaters left in storage because we cannot afford to use them. Our ACs are left for spiders to hide in during summer. We are once again using fans, when we worked so hard to live in a modern society. Our roads are a disgrace to our country;  they look like the bloody Gaza Strip, fatal to all drivers who on a daily bases drive around them. Where are the funds from the EU, we were promised  decent roads to drive on way back in 2003.

What about our state of the art hospital, one has to wait years for an operation he rightfully deserves. I could not believe my ears when I heard John Dalli himself, talking about the state the hospital is in, who is to blame...don’t tell me the PL is to blame for this?

Why don’t you talk about the raping of the south of Malta (guess you might live miles away to care), the power station, the fish farms that have now destroyed and killed the sea bed and polluted the once beautiful crystal blue sea. The recycling plant in Marsascala. What about the now proposed incinerator at Marsaxlokk,  drafted without having done any health assessment to see how it will effect the people who reside in the vicinity.  And, not to forget to mention, another extension at the Free Port near the sailing club.

Where is the paradise we were promised by joining the EU? What has been gained for the common layman and the many families now living in poverty? What about the people who are losing their jobs every day that goes by, Mr.P Shaw? Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw  stones. Sharon Ellul Bonici might have been against the EU at that time or tried to give us a real picture of what lies ahead, but I have never heard her lie to anyone and all she ever said was the truth, so, if I vote for her and in time utter &#039;mea culpa&#039;, at least it will be by trial and error, and not because she lied to us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@P.Shaw &#8220;Hey everyone, the tragedy is that thousands are going to believe, and swallow everything M.EB is telling us. After it&#8217;s too bloody late they&#8217;ll no doubt then say. Mea Culpa&#8230;.and that&#8217;s the price of democracy for you!&#8221;</p>
<p>Est modus in rebus, Mr P. Shaw, like we swallowed every word the Prime Minister uttered before the last election. I know so many people who are now saying Mea Culpa, that I lost count of the list. The government  promised one thing and is now doing the opposite. The same tragedy, of those  thousands who voted PN in the last election, believing every word of the PN promised, and that’s the price of democracy for you!, The promises, may I jog your memory, were to help the people decide whom to vote for, Il-par idejn soddi or for the infamous Sant.</p>
<p>We are now reaping what we sowed, yesterday. I paid 950 euros on my car insurance plus licence. What about the sky high electricity bills that Dr Gonzi tells us are to stop people from wasting electricity. We pay for what we use, so why interfere in our private life. Due to this, we are now living in a regressed state of having heaters left in storage because we cannot afford to use them. Our ACs are left for spiders to hide in during summer. We are once again using fans, when we worked so hard to live in a modern society. Our roads are a disgrace to our country;  they look like the bloody Gaza Strip, fatal to all drivers who on a daily bases drive around them. Where are the funds from the EU, we were promised  decent roads to drive on way back in 2003.</p>
<p>What about our state of the art hospital, one has to wait years for an operation he rightfully deserves. I could not believe my ears when I heard John Dalli himself, talking about the state the hospital is in, who is to blame&#8230;don’t tell me the PL is to blame for this?</p>
<p>Why don’t you talk about the raping of the south of Malta (guess you might live miles away to care), the power station, the fish farms that have now destroyed and killed the sea bed and polluted the once beautiful crystal blue sea. The recycling plant in Marsascala. What about the now proposed incinerator at Marsaxlokk,  drafted without having done any health assessment to see how it will effect the people who reside in the vicinity.  And, not to forget to mention, another extension at the Free Port near the sailing club.</p>
<p>Where is the paradise we were promised by joining the EU? What has been gained for the common layman and the many families now living in poverty? What about the people who are losing their jobs every day that goes by, Mr.P Shaw? Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw  stones. Sharon Ellul Bonici might have been against the EU at that time or tried to give us a real picture of what lies ahead, but I have never heard her lie to anyone and all she ever said was the truth, so, if I vote for her and in time utter &#8216;mea culpa&#8217;, at least it will be by trial and error, and not because she lied to us.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think you anticipate too much, Antoine. What &lt;em&gt;would&lt;/em&gt; have happened is not for you to know. As for the future, may it prove you wrong. Change of heart is what you will have some time down the line.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you anticipate too much, Antoine. What <em>would</em> have happened is not for you to know. As for the future, may it prove you wrong. Change of heart is what you will have some time down the line.</p>
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