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		By: Amanda Mallia		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/01/life/#comment-20620</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re Diane Gerada - I remember the case clearly.  Apart from the two-year-old child, there was also, if I am not mistaken, another of the couple&#039;s children - a girl aged around 10 - sleeping on a mattress in the same room.  She (the girl) had desperately tried to call for help but, sadly, had dialled &quot;999&quot; instead of Malta&#039;s then emergency number of &quot;191&quot; (or whatever it was at the time), having remembered the number from &quot;Flying Doctors&quot; or some other  programme she used to watch. That child is probably scarred for life and yet, the father walked free.

As for Schembri&#039;s family, I&#039;m glad you wrote what you did.  The father is such a decent, humble and &quot;old world&quot; polite man, that it is hard to imagine what he is going through at the moment, along with the other members of the family.  Yes, they too are victims in this case.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Some people don&#039;t have the imagination to see that it is much worse to be the father of the murderer than the father of the victim in a case like this.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Diane Gerada &#8211; I remember the case clearly.  Apart from the two-year-old child, there was also, if I am not mistaken, another of the couple&#8217;s children &#8211; a girl aged around 10 &#8211; sleeping on a mattress in the same room.  She (the girl) had desperately tried to call for help but, sadly, had dialled &#8220;999&#8221; instead of Malta&#8217;s then emergency number of &#8220;191&#8221; (or whatever it was at the time), having remembered the number from &#8220;Flying Doctors&#8221; or some other  programme she used to watch. That child is probably scarred for life and yet, the father walked free.</p>
<p>As for Schembri&#8217;s family, I&#8217;m glad you wrote what you did.  The father is such a decent, humble and &#8220;old world&#8221; polite man, that it is hard to imagine what he is going through at the moment, along with the other members of the family.  Yes, they too are victims in this case.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Some people don&#8217;t have the imagination to see that it is much worse to be the father of the murderer than the father of the victim in a case like this.]</strong></p>
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		By: il-kanna		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/01/life/#comment-20619</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Il verdett gust kellu jkun...Li Norbert Schembri sakkruh wahdu go Corradino u armu ic cavetta tac cella go l&#039;ocean.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Il verdett gust kellu jkun&#8230;Li Norbert Schembri sakkruh wahdu go Corradino u armu ic cavetta tac cella go l&#8217;ocean.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/01/life/#comment-20618</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Too many Frenchified cliché subplots, but not the worst film I&#039;ve seen, by far. And it&#039;s straight on topic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many Frenchified cliché subplots, but not the worst film I&#8217;ve seen, by far. And it&#8217;s straight on topic.</p>
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		By: dusty		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/01/life/#comment-20617</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So can you all tell me why there are sentences of 30 or 35 years (Emmanuel Camilleri etc.)? Doesn&#039;t that defeat the argument that life means 25 years? By the way one year actually means 8 months due to remission.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Oh dear, here&#039;s another one. Life doesn&#039;t mean 25 years. Please make the distinction clear in your head. Life means life, but despite that, nobody spends longer than 25 years in jail because one way or another the prison authorities need to clear out that house.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So can you all tell me why there are sentences of 30 or 35 years (Emmanuel Camilleri etc.)? Doesn&#8217;t that defeat the argument that life means 25 years? By the way one year actually means 8 months due to remission.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Oh dear, here&#8217;s another one. Life doesn&#8217;t mean 25 years. Please make the distinction clear in your head. Life means life, but despite that, nobody spends longer than 25 years in jail because one way or another the prison authorities need to clear out that house.]</strong></p>
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		By: John Schembri		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/01/life/#comment-20616</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Presently there is one anzjan serving life imprisonment for four times. I don&#039;t know what will happen after 25 years to this one.]

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Please explain how a person can be sentenced to life imprisonment four times in a row. Did he get out of jail while serving a life sentence to commit the other crimes?]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presently there is one anzjan serving life imprisonment for four times. I don&#8217;t know what will happen after 25 years to this one.]</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Please explain how a person can be sentenced to life imprisonment four times in a row. Did he get out of jail while serving a life sentence to commit the other crimes?]</strong></p>
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		By: Maroons		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/01/life/#comment-20615</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I might be wrong (Daphne stop pulling your hair!) but in Italy they are sentenced to &#039;Al Gastero&#039; (more hair pulling because of my spelling!) which means LIFE.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - You know, I&#039;m really amazed that some people find this so hard to understand. Wherever in the world people are sentenced to life, it means just that, life - otherwise it would be called something else, like for example, 25 years. But despite being sentenced to life imprisonment, in no western democracy that I can think of other than the USA are people actually kept in prison until they die, despite being sentenced to life imprisonment. This is because the state has no interest in turning the jails into old people&#039;s homes, or in keeping doddering old men in jail just for the hell of it, and just because there&#039;s no point in doing so when the person is not a threat. So they are let out on parole, or pardoned, or whatever, but the fact is that they are not kept in prison longer than a couple of decades. There are some exceptions, as with, notoriously, Myra Hindley (I mention her because she&#039;s the first one to spring to mind), but apart from that - they&#039;re let out one way or another, even though life means life on paper. Another factor influencing this is that people live much longer now. They no longer routinely die at 65 or 70, and animals in captivity live longer than they do in the wild. So whereas in the first half of the 20th century, sentencing a man of 40 to life in prison might mean that he died at 65 anyway, nowadays you&#039;re looking at 50 years in jail, which is ludicrous. Do you understand now?]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might be wrong (Daphne stop pulling your hair!) but in Italy they are sentenced to &#8216;Al Gastero&#8217; (more hair pulling because of my spelling!) which means LIFE.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; You know, I&#8217;m really amazed that some people find this so hard to understand. Wherever in the world people are sentenced to life, it means just that, life &#8211; otherwise it would be called something else, like for example, 25 years. But despite being sentenced to life imprisonment, in no western democracy that I can think of other than the USA are people actually kept in prison until they die, despite being sentenced to life imprisonment. This is because the state has no interest in turning the jails into old people&#8217;s homes, or in keeping doddering old men in jail just for the hell of it, and just because there&#8217;s no point in doing so when the person is not a threat. So they are let out on parole, or pardoned, or whatever, but the fact is that they are not kept in prison longer than a couple of decades. There are some exceptions, as with, notoriously, Myra Hindley (I mention her because she&#8217;s the first one to spring to mind), but apart from that &#8211; they&#8217;re let out one way or another, even though life means life on paper. Another factor influencing this is that people live much longer now. They no longer routinely die at 65 or 70, and animals in captivity live longer than they do in the wild. So whereas in the first half of the 20th century, sentencing a man of 40 to life in prison might mean that he died at 65 anyway, nowadays you&#8217;re looking at 50 years in jail, which is ludicrous. Do you understand now?]</strong></p>
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		By: kev		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/01/life/#comment-20614</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Life imprisonment hardly ever makes sense. Traditionally, there are four justifications of punishment: deterrence, incapacitation, rehabilitation and retribution. Only retribution can justify the need to detain someone for life.
But retribution has only emotional qualities - a matter of revenge and vindictiveness. It has no utilitarian effect.

From a &#039;deterrence&#039; perspective, there is no justification to detain a person for life. The most effective type of deterrence is physical deterrence, such as target hardening (a fence) or police patrols. The deterrent value of what comes after being caught is less significant. No would-be perpetrator would stop to think about the difference between 5 and 10 years imprisonment. He does not intend to to be caught in the first place. This is evidenced by the high rate of relapsers, which largely shows that specific deterrence works even less than generic. (Generic deterrence applies to the largely law-abiding population as a whole).

As to rehabilitation, there is clearly no justification here since life imprisonment defeats the aims. Rehabilitation, a post-WWII positivist fad, has been out of fashion since it became clear that institutional cages do not rehabilitate people but break them down.

Then comes incapacitation - which is wholly utilitarian in application. A person is imprisoned in order to stop him from committing more crimes - not for his own sake but for the sake of the community. But generally speaking people prone to criminal behaviour mature and straighten out by the age of 35-40. The more time they spend being treated like dogs in a state institution, the longer it takes for them to straighten out. In any case, it is unlikely that a 60-year-old would seek to commit serious crimes once he&#039;s out of prison.

It is largely in the Land of the Free that they have geriatric prisons for those who were not electrocuted, gassed or injected with poison by the state. In the US, the prison population is now reaching 1000 persons per 100,000 population (mostly for non-violent, drug related crimes). So with 5% of the world population, the US holds 25% of the world&#039;s prisoners. To give you some perspective, at that rate Malta would have housed 4000 prisoners at Corradino. Nearly every family in Malta would have been acquainted to a prisoner. The rate in Malta was around 35/100k in the 1970s and now it stands at around 80-90/100k (mostly foreigners). In Europe it averages around 100-120/100k - and always rising, especially in the UK where it must be close to 200/100k by now.

And is there less crime? Of course not - that&#039;s not how it works. What they have been doing for the past 30-40 years is creating more crime through the very same actions aimed at preventing it... but that would take volumes for its not mainstream at all. In the Pollyanna world, we will succeed if only we could enact more laws with higher sentences, have more police on the streets and build more prisons(Parkinson&#039;s law then sets in). No wonder they now have 14 FEMA camps in the US - sparkling new and empty, ready to take in guests. But Obama will close Guantanamo... so the problem is solved.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life imprisonment hardly ever makes sense. Traditionally, there are four justifications of punishment: deterrence, incapacitation, rehabilitation and retribution. Only retribution can justify the need to detain someone for life.<br />
But retribution has only emotional qualities &#8211; a matter of revenge and vindictiveness. It has no utilitarian effect.</p>
<p>From a &#8216;deterrence&#8217; perspective, there is no justification to detain a person for life. The most effective type of deterrence is physical deterrence, such as target hardening (a fence) or police patrols. The deterrent value of what comes after being caught is less significant. No would-be perpetrator would stop to think about the difference between 5 and 10 years imprisonment. He does not intend to to be caught in the first place. This is evidenced by the high rate of relapsers, which largely shows that specific deterrence works even less than generic. (Generic deterrence applies to the largely law-abiding population as a whole).</p>
<p>As to rehabilitation, there is clearly no justification here since life imprisonment defeats the aims. Rehabilitation, a post-WWII positivist fad, has been out of fashion since it became clear that institutional cages do not rehabilitate people but break them down.</p>
<p>Then comes incapacitation &#8211; which is wholly utilitarian in application. A person is imprisoned in order to stop him from committing more crimes &#8211; not for his own sake but for the sake of the community. But generally speaking people prone to criminal behaviour mature and straighten out by the age of 35-40. The more time they spend being treated like dogs in a state institution, the longer it takes for them to straighten out. In any case, it is unlikely that a 60-year-old would seek to commit serious crimes once he&#8217;s out of prison.</p>
<p>It is largely in the Land of the Free that they have geriatric prisons for those who were not electrocuted, gassed or injected with poison by the state. In the US, the prison population is now reaching 1000 persons per 100,000 population (mostly for non-violent, drug related crimes). So with 5% of the world population, the US holds 25% of the world&#8217;s prisoners. To give you some perspective, at that rate Malta would have housed 4000 prisoners at Corradino. Nearly every family in Malta would have been acquainted to a prisoner. The rate in Malta was around 35/100k in the 1970s and now it stands at around 80-90/100k (mostly foreigners). In Europe it averages around 100-120/100k &#8211; and always rising, especially in the UK where it must be close to 200/100k by now.</p>
<p>And is there less crime? Of course not &#8211; that&#8217;s not how it works. What they have been doing for the past 30-40 years is creating more crime through the very same actions aimed at preventing it&#8230; but that would take volumes for its not mainstream at all. In the Pollyanna world, we will succeed if only we could enact more laws with higher sentences, have more police on the streets and build more prisons(Parkinson&#8217;s law then sets in). No wonder they now have 14 FEMA camps in the US &#8211; sparkling new and empty, ready to take in guests. But Obama will close Guantanamo&#8230; so the problem is solved.</p>
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		By: Andrea		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/01/life/#comment-20613</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@H.P.Baxxter

Cineaste.
Straight tip though. Seems to be a good movie. Very realistic, they say.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@H.P.Baxxter</p>
<p>Cineaste.<br />
Straight tip though. Seems to be a good movie. Very realistic, they say.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a film for you, Daphne, seeing as you&#039;re a bit of a cinophile or whatever they&#039;re called: MR 73]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a film for you, Daphne, seeing as you&#8217;re a bit of a cinophile or whatever they&#8217;re called: MR 73</p>
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		By: Adrian Borg		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/01/life/#comment-20611</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Edgar Gatt
You are right of course, I was think of juries where the accused is Maltese

@Leo Said
What&#039;s your point?  I simply wrote about what I have heard is done from acquantances that served as jurors.  I have never served as a juror myself nor have I ever been in any position to give such advice!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Edgar Gatt<br />
You are right of course, I was think of juries where the accused is Maltese</p>
<p>@Leo Said<br />
What&#8217;s your point?  I simply wrote about what I have heard is done from acquantances that served as jurors.  I have never served as a juror myself nor have I ever been in any position to give such advice!</p>
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