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		By: P Shaw		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/02/in-a-hole-and-digging-hard/#comment-22661</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P Shaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne, You claimed that MLP voters have no chance of voting for JPO,  Well, don’t underestimate their absurdity. After all they voted for Rita Law, and Sandro Schembri Adami (ex PN himself). His ex wife managed to be elected on both the PN ticket (local council) and MLP ticket (Parliament). JPO comes from a Labour background, while his current partner (real force behind the couple) was raised and spent all her adult life inside the Macina.

JPO seems to be desperate, vindictive and extremely vulnerable, and this might explain his irrationality and the easiness of him being manipulated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne, You claimed that MLP voters have no chance of voting for JPO,  Well, don’t underestimate their absurdity. After all they voted for Rita Law, and Sandro Schembri Adami (ex PN himself). His ex wife managed to be elected on both the PN ticket (local council) and MLP ticket (Parliament). JPO comes from a Labour background, while his current partner (real force behind the couple) was raised and spent all her adult life inside the Macina.</p>
<p>JPO seems to be desperate, vindictive and extremely vulnerable, and this might explain his irrationality and the easiness of him being manipulated.</p>
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		By: Antoine Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antoine Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Andrea Sammut
&quot;Maybe it’s in Jeffrey’s genes and he’s going back to his roots. &quot;

I don&#039;t know enough political history to be sure but, somehow, my impression is that the founders of the Labour Party would not have approved the anti-immigrant rhetoric we&#039;re hearing these days.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrea Sammut<br />
&#8220;Maybe it’s in Jeffrey’s genes and he’s going back to his roots. &#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know enough political history to be sure but, somehow, my impression is that the founders of the Labour Party would not have approved the anti-immigrant rhetoric we&#8217;re hearing these days.</p>
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		By: Sandro Pace		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandro Pace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The way the immigration argument is being presented from this side is obviously creating anger and even political rebellion in the Maltese. And who can blame them? So the argument goes....We can&#039;t send them to Italy, either directly by sea or from here somehow because we will be breaking the Dublin II Convention, and heaven help anyone talking of taking a stand regarding these &#039;rules&#039; which are unfair on boarder states. We can wait forever for the EU to change them, but they will never do so.

We can&#039;t turn them back to Libya (contrary to what many think, we can and we will be in breach of no laws), because we will be breaking other obligations, or worse we will face retaliation from Libya. This is really good. My neighbour dumps people on my roof, and if I put them back on his, he will retaliate. I will put them there anyhow. And how will Libya retaliate?  Apparently, we can do nothing.
Tell me how can ever one accept this sort of bullying? For one, I will never accept it. When no one comes to your rescue, international illegality has to be fought with same. If not south, they shall move north.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way the immigration argument is being presented from this side is obviously creating anger and even political rebellion in the Maltese. And who can blame them? So the argument goes&#8230;.We can&#8217;t send them to Italy, either directly by sea or from here somehow because we will be breaking the Dublin II Convention, and heaven help anyone talking of taking a stand regarding these &#8216;rules&#8217; which are unfair on boarder states. We can wait forever for the EU to change them, but they will never do so.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t turn them back to Libya (contrary to what many think, we can and we will be in breach of no laws), because we will be breaking other obligations, or worse we will face retaliation from Libya. This is really good. My neighbour dumps people on my roof, and if I put them back on his, he will retaliate. I will put them there anyhow. And how will Libya retaliate?  Apparently, we can do nothing.<br />
Tell me how can ever one accept this sort of bullying? For one, I will never accept it. When no one comes to your rescue, international illegality has to be fought with same. If not south, they shall move north.</p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some clear thought from timesofmalta.com at last:

S. Calascione (2 hours, 26 minutes ago)
I get the impression that many people here are blissfully unaware that the real danger facing Malta and Europe is the global financial crisis, which is slowly but surely undermining confidence in the European project. Further breakdown in cohesion may well be accompanied by a dramatic increase in far right sentiment, the real danger lurking on the horizon.

There is nothing &quot;fresh&quot; in the measures being proposed by Dr. Pullicino Orlando. It is precisely the National Socialist position of the 1930s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some clear thought from timesofmalta.com at last:</p>
<p>S. Calascione (2 hours, 26 minutes ago)<br />
I get the impression that many people here are blissfully unaware that the real danger facing Malta and Europe is the global financial crisis, which is slowly but surely undermining confidence in the European project. Further breakdown in cohesion may well be accompanied by a dramatic increase in far right sentiment, the real danger lurking on the horizon.</p>
<p>There is nothing &#8220;fresh&#8221; in the measures being proposed by Dr. Pullicino Orlando. It is precisely the National Socialist position of the 1930s.</p>
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		By: Leonard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leonard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tal-biki.  When The Times came up with an on-line facility that made it extremely easy for people to express their views, it unwittingly provided a yardstick for guaging the education and civility levels of the Maltese.  In addition to the abundance of grammatical mistakes, the extent of intolerance, big-headedness and small-mindedness one comes across when reading these comments is shocking.

Where has it all gone wrong?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tal-biki.  When The Times came up with an on-line facility that made it extremely easy for people to express their views, it unwittingly provided a yardstick for guaging the education and civility levels of the Maltese.  In addition to the abundance of grammatical mistakes, the extent of intolerance, big-headedness and small-mindedness one comes across when reading these comments is shocking.</p>
<p>Where has it all gone wrong?</p>
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		By: Albert Farrugia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert Farrugia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Vince Farrugia&#039;s comments tp di-ve.com are simply unbelievable. So here is a guy who openly says that he is using the Nationalist Party as an &quot;airline to Brussels&quot;. That he is Nationalist because it is the Nationalists who won government and so who decide. Whereas with the Opposition he would have been in a disadvantage. Absolutely unbelieveable.
And these words were the first words uttered AFTER his candidacy was approved. What type of political party is this, which accepts that one of its candidates openly declares that he is &quot;using&quot; it for his own ends??
Politics in Malta is becoming more bizarre by the minute.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vince Farrugia&#8217;s comments tp di-ve.com are simply unbelievable. So here is a guy who openly says that he is using the Nationalist Party as an &#8220;airline to Brussels&#8221;. That he is Nationalist because it is the Nationalists who won government and so who decide. Whereas with the Opposition he would have been in a disadvantage. Absolutely unbelieveable.<br />
And these words were the first words uttered AFTER his candidacy was approved. What type of political party is this, which accepts that one of its candidates openly declares that he is &#8220;using&#8221; it for his own ends??<br />
Politics in Malta is becoming more bizarre by the minute.</p>
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		By: carlos bonavia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carlos bonavia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Daphne
Excellent post. Heed it Jeffrey]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daphne<br />
Excellent post. Heed it Jeffrey</p>
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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090225/local/were-full-up-pullicino-orlando
M Borg (4 hours, 40 minutes ago)
we clearly need a referendum where the citizens are asked whether they want the illegal immigrants here or not!

and by the way, who are the UN and what powers do they have? Where were the UN when USA attacked Iran in breach of UN Scurity Council? Where were the UN when no-one wanted to intervene in the Baltics crisis? Where were the UN when no one wanted to intervene in Rwanda? What stand did the UN take over Australia (a UN Member like Malta) which is still refusing illegal immigrants!

And what does the UN Charter for Human Rights say? Who is this Neil Falzon (by the way, he is paid by the UN )...who is incorrectly quoting the Charter? The charter specifies the country of origing of illegal immigrants......the ones coming here are coming from Libya....which definately is not their country of origin!!!!!!

WAKE UP MALTESE PEOPLE!!!! We need to act in the love of our Nation and our children!!]]></description>
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M Borg (4 hours, 40 minutes ago)<br />
we clearly need a referendum where the citizens are asked whether they want the illegal immigrants here or not!</p>
<p>and by the way, who are the UN and what powers do they have? Where were the UN when USA attacked Iran in breach of UN Scurity Council? Where were the UN when no-one wanted to intervene in the Baltics crisis? Where were the UN when no one wanted to intervene in Rwanda? What stand did the UN take over Australia (a UN Member like Malta) which is still refusing illegal immigrants!</p>
<p>And what does the UN Charter for Human Rights say? Who is this Neil Falzon (by the way, he is paid by the UN )&#8230;who is incorrectly quoting the Charter? The charter specifies the country of origing of illegal immigrants&#8230;&#8230;the ones coming here are coming from Libya&#8230;.which definately is not their country of origin!!!!!!</p>
<p>WAKE UP MALTESE PEOPLE!!!! We need to act in the love of our Nation and our children!!</p>
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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dr. Savior Tortell Pisani (14 hours, 4 minutes ago)
@ Carmel Camilleri
What do you propose then? Waiting for the big northern nations to shoulder their responsibility? That will never materialise!... It doesn&#039;t strike them where it hurts, that&#039;s why! So I suggest to give up waiting for the manna to fall out of the sky...

Just take the bull by its horns!.. First things first... If needs be we could always withdraw Malta from the UNHCR. We should FIRST DIVERT the problem and ONLY THEN spend our time chatting about it... Not the other way round.

If for nothing else this will cause a good stir on an international level and perhaps (just perhaps) other countries will begin to wake up to the problem!!!
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090225/local/were-full-up-pullicino-orlando

Sitting on our ass pontificating is not going to solve it. EVER! And don&#039;t talk about humanitarian issues... We currently offer ONE CRAP OF A SERVICE!

So like JPO rightly said, If we can&#039;t offer an acceptable humanitarian service then suspend the service altogether until the issue falls within our capacity. If for nothing else it will save much international indignation on mistreating immigrants on our turf.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Savior Tortell Pisani (14 hours, 4 minutes ago)<br />
@ Carmel Camilleri<br />
What do you propose then? Waiting for the big northern nations to shoulder their responsibility? That will never materialise!&#8230; It doesn&#8217;t strike them where it hurts, that&#8217;s why! So I suggest to give up waiting for the manna to fall out of the sky&#8230;</p>
<p>Just take the bull by its horns!.. First things first&#8230; If needs be we could always withdraw Malta from the UNHCR. We should FIRST DIVERT the problem and ONLY THEN spend our time chatting about it&#8230; Not the other way round.</p>
<p>If for nothing else this will cause a good stir on an international level and perhaps (just perhaps) other countries will begin to wake up to the problem!!!<br />
<a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090225/local/were-full-up-pullicino-orlando" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090225/local/were-full-up-pullicino-orlando</a></p>
<p>Sitting on our ass pontificating is not going to solve it. EVER! And don&#8217;t talk about humanitarian issues&#8230; We currently offer ONE CRAP OF A SERVICE!</p>
<p>So like JPO rightly said, If we can&#8217;t offer an acceptable humanitarian service then suspend the service altogether until the issue falls within our capacity. If for nothing else it will save much international indignation on mistreating immigrants on our turf.</p>
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		By: kev		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I heard Libertas were interested in roping in JPO. Mari Gucci must have been shattered.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Libertas were interested in roping in JPO. Mari Gucci must have been shattered.</p>
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