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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Meilak: &quot;We must achieve a civilisation the equivalent of the Roman Empire&quot;

Well, we&#039;re halfway there already. The place is overun with circus animals. Now all we need is an arena and a few tridents and that will keep the people happy.

As to the rest of your pipe dream, refer to Graham C&#039;s comment above - the last nine words, that is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Meilak: &#8220;We must achieve a civilisation the equivalent of the Roman Empire&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, we&#8217;re halfway there already. The place is overun with circus animals. Now all we need is an arena and a few tridents and that will keep the people happy.</p>
<p>As to the rest of your pipe dream, refer to Graham C&#8217;s comment above &#8211; the last nine words, that is.</p>
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		By: Roger Vella Bonavita		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Vella Bonavita]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Daphne,
Here is Laparelli&#039;s text of early 1566. Of course I do not present it as a solid argument against the tunnel proposed for St John&#039;s but it is an interesting footnote so to speak. Given public interest in the issue and the decision to restore the fortifications of Valletta I may ask the editor of The Malta Independent on Sunday to publish my contribution to your blog if that&#039;s ok with you. &lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Fine with me. I work with them, after all.]&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;The scheme (Lanci&#039;s) calls for casemates cut into solid rock with their embrasures at ditch level (i.e., low down on the floor of the ditch). These casemates, each 60 palmi long, 28 palmi wide and 22 palmi high at the vault, are to be located in the flanks of the bastions. Some believe they are conceived as detached works however in fact they are placed within the flanks but at ditch level – i.e., within the walls. In my opinion if a solid ‘slice’ of rock is left, as specified, to form the outer wall of this casemate, it cannot support itself. Rather than this free standing (slice of) rock, there should be a masonry wall between the interior of the casemate and the ditch outside for it has to support the roof of the casemate and the rest of the wall above too. I am saying it will not support itself because there are flaws in all rocks of all types: marble, travertine, or any other common stone; be they brittle, very hard, soft (like chalk), or whatever. In short, since the density of rock is not consistent it tends to flake and crumble. There are land slides and rock falls on high ground even when no one has interfered with it or quarried there. Rocks will flake and crumble even more if cut as is proposed in this scheme. Thus these casemates will be expensive to build and liable to collapse.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Daphne,<br />
Here is Laparelli&#8217;s text of early 1566. Of course I do not present it as a solid argument against the tunnel proposed for St John&#8217;s but it is an interesting footnote so to speak. Given public interest in the issue and the decision to restore the fortifications of Valletta I may ask the editor of The Malta Independent on Sunday to publish my contribution to your blog if that&#8217;s ok with you. <strong>[Daphne &#8211; Fine with me. I work with them, after all.]</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;The scheme (Lanci&#8217;s) calls for casemates cut into solid rock with their embrasures at ditch level (i.e., low down on the floor of the ditch). These casemates, each 60 palmi long, 28 palmi wide and 22 palmi high at the vault, are to be located in the flanks of the bastions. Some believe they are conceived as detached works however in fact they are placed within the flanks but at ditch level – i.e., within the walls. In my opinion if a solid ‘slice’ of rock is left, as specified, to form the outer wall of this casemate, it cannot support itself. Rather than this free standing (slice of) rock, there should be a masonry wall between the interior of the casemate and the ditch outside for it has to support the roof of the casemate and the rest of the wall above too. I am saying it will not support itself because there are flaws in all rocks of all types: marble, travertine, or any other common stone; be they brittle, very hard, soft (like chalk), or whatever. In short, since the density of rock is not consistent it tends to flake and crumble. There are land slides and rock falls on high ground even when no one has interfered with it or quarried there. Rocks will flake and crumble even more if cut as is proposed in this scheme. Thus these casemates will be expensive to build and liable to collapse.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Uncle Fester		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle Fester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Gerald.  I wouldn&#039;t know Richard Cachia Caruana if I fell over him in the street but I doubt he is a right wing fascist.  I was comparing him to Karl Rove as a back handed compliment.  I admire his innate political instincts - he is the consummate political chess player.  He has all the makings of a successful trial lawyer - he knows his audience, he knows how to target his message, he chooses the right political moment to act and he knows how to move his pawns around the political chess board from the shadows. Most important of all he thinks five steps ahead of his opponent.  Those sort of people aren&#039;t born every day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gerald.  I wouldn&#8217;t know Richard Cachia Caruana if I fell over him in the street but I doubt he is a right wing fascist.  I was comparing him to Karl Rove as a back handed compliment.  I admire his innate political instincts &#8211; he is the consummate political chess player.  He has all the makings of a successful trial lawyer &#8211; he knows his audience, he knows how to target his message, he chooses the right political moment to act and he knows how to move his pawns around the political chess board from the shadows. Most important of all he thinks five steps ahead of his opponent.  Those sort of people aren&#8217;t born every day.</p>
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		By: John Schembri		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Schembri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read it somewhere. Maybe someone will help. I think it was a priest who said it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read it somewhere. Maybe someone will help. I think it was a priest who said it.</p>
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		By: John Meilak		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Meilak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Corinne

Renaissance is the resurgence and rediscovery of the knowledge and art of the ancients whilst improving on it. We have sunk back into a cultural dark age. Especially here in Malta.

We must achieve a civilisation the equivalent of the Roman Empire but with the benefit of technology (i.e. no need of slavery to do everyday tasks).

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - I&#039;m just guessing wildly here. Are you one of Norman Lowell&#039;s boys?]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Corinne</p>
<p>Renaissance is the resurgence and rediscovery of the knowledge and art of the ancients whilst improving on it. We have sunk back into a cultural dark age. Especially here in Malta.</p>
<p>We must achieve a civilisation the equivalent of the Roman Empire but with the benefit of technology (i.e. no need of slavery to do everyday tasks).</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; I&#8217;m just guessing wildly here. Are you one of Norman Lowell&#8217;s boys?]</strong></p>
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		By: Graham C.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graham C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne, well they already did and the report showed that for it to be feasible we need to have a &#039;commuter&#039; population of at least 2.6 million. (unfortunately Austin Gatt was right about this)

Corinne Vella, John Meilak probably mixed up the renaissance with the classical period (ancient civilisation)...We need a &lt;em&gt;school&lt;/em&gt; of thinking, not a palace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne, well they already did and the report showed that for it to be feasible we need to have a &#8216;commuter&#8217; population of at least 2.6 million. (unfortunately Austin Gatt was right about this)</p>
<p>Corinne Vella, John Meilak probably mixed up the renaissance with the classical period (ancient civilisation)&#8230;We need a <em>school</em> of thinking, not a palace.</p>
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		By: John Schembri		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Schembri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, Daphne - that&#039;s what I meant, &quot;the right institutions&quot;, even though the buck stops at the PM&#039;s desk.
Someone in the 17th century said that if in Malta one tries to light up a candle, in no time there will be a hundred people blowing to put it out.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Is that an urban legend, or do you have the source?]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Daphne &#8211; that&#8217;s what I meant, &#8220;the right institutions&#8221;, even though the buck stops at the PM&#8217;s desk.<br />
Someone in the 17th century said that if in Malta one tries to light up a candle, in no time there will be a hundred people blowing to put it out.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Is that an urban legend, or do you have the source?]</strong></p>
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		By: John Schembri		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Schembri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ John Meilak : I am sure it was a big bomb. I am stating facts.

I want my country to be run as it should from parliament not from around a Sliema apartment kitchen-table. &lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Unfortunately, John, that was precisely what happened - it was decided by parliament, indirectly if not directly. I think what you meant to say is that you want the correct institutions to take the decisions. It&#039;s not always parliament that&#039;s the decision-making body.]
&lt;/strong&gt;
I don&#039;t have an opinion about the shape or form of this proposed museum.But I believe that there are solutions to these problems.

All I know is that there are various architectural styles from various periods in Valletta: Victorian (the covered market), neo-classical(Law courts), neo-Gothic (St Paul&#039;s Anglican Cathedral) and Fascist (incomplete City Gate).

&#039;Daghwa b&#039;Alla fil-knisja&#039; is the  disproportionately-sized dome of Tal-Karmnu Church and its bad workmanship (some parts of this oval dome are straight).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ John Meilak : I am sure it was a big bomb. I am stating facts.</p>
<p>I want my country to be run as it should from parliament not from around a Sliema apartment kitchen-table. <strong>[Daphne &#8211; Unfortunately, John, that was precisely what happened &#8211; it was decided by parliament, indirectly if not directly. I think what you meant to say is that you want the correct institutions to take the decisions. It&#8217;s not always parliament that&#8217;s the decision-making body.]<br />
</strong><br />
I don&#8217;t have an opinion about the shape or form of this proposed museum.But I believe that there are solutions to these problems.</p>
<p>All I know is that there are various architectural styles from various periods in Valletta: Victorian (the covered market), neo-classical(Law courts), neo-Gothic (St Paul&#8217;s Anglican Cathedral) and Fascist (incomplete City Gate).</p>
<p>&#8216;Daghwa b&#8217;Alla fil-knisja&#8217; is the  disproportionately-sized dome of Tal-Karmnu Church and its bad workmanship (some parts of this oval dome are straight).</p>
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		By: Gerald		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The comparison between Richard Cachia Caruana and Karl Rove is excellent. Sums up the right wing, conservative fanaticism of 90 per cent who post on this blog.

[&lt;strong&gt;Daphne - Just because somebody comes from a smart background and has no chip on his or her shoulder, Gerald, it doesn&#039;t follow that he or she is a right-wing conservative fascist with blue eyes.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comparison between Richard Cachia Caruana and Karl Rove is excellent. Sums up the right wing, conservative fanaticism of 90 per cent who post on this blog.</p>
<p>[<strong>Daphne &#8211; Just because somebody comes from a smart background and has no chip on his or her shoulder, Gerald, it doesn&#8217;t follow that he or she is a right-wing conservative fascist with blue eyes.]</strong></p>
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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Meilak: What qualifies renaissance as &#039;ancient&#039;?]]></description>
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