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		By: John Schembri		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Schembri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry Daphne, but you know more than the average citizen: now I understand the worrying situation. I am not being sarcastic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Daphne, but you know more than the average citizen: now I understand the worrying situation. I am not being sarcastic.</p>
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		By: Mario P		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mario P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Andrea - achmed is not even close to the Muppets.  Funny though]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Andrea &#8211; achmed is not even close to the Muppets.  Funny though</p>
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		By: John Schembri		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Schembri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Here am I, doing Labour&#039;s job&quot;.
Daphne , you&#039;re doing no one&#039;s job except yours. You think you are defusing a big bomb, or exploding a bomb prematurely. I cannot understand your way of thinking. Are you really expecting John Dalli to make a press statement stating that he doesn&#039;t have anything to do with his brother? And if he does that, would  we be &#039;satisfied&#039;? I think we will be in the same position we are now. Labour are being very prudent on this issue, and I don&#039;t think they will gain votes with mud-slinging. We know that it always backfired.
Would someone vote for Sharon, instead for Simon just because John is Bastjan&#039;s brother?

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - John, I can&#039;t understand your way of thinking, either, so that makes two of us. Labour is not being prudent. Labour is storing up ammunition for use at a more opportune moment, rather than wasting it now. It is wholly incorrect to say that &#039;mud-slinging&#039; - silly term - &#039;always backfired&#039;. Quite the contrary, it always worked for Labour. The &#039;mud-slinging&#039; of 1996 was phenomenally successful when coupled with Vince Farrugia&#039;s anti-VAT hysterics, and the &#039;mud-slinging&#039; of 2008 did a pretty good job of eroding the Nationalist Party&#039;s voter-base, too. &#039;Mud-slinging&#039; doesn&#039;t work for those who are defending their position, and so Labour was at a loss in 1998. And 2003 was a single-issue election. And no, in this case I think Labour is being irresponsible in not raising the issue in a direct way, which means without &#039;mud-slinging&#039; or ulterior motives. If you&#039;re happy living in a country where the non-estranged brother of a cabinet minister is hauled up for drug trafficking and the cabinet minister pretends he doesn&#039;t know anything about it, even though both brothers do lots of business in Libya and the cabinet minister brother runs a Portomaso office especially for doing business with Libya, then fine. I&#039;m not at all happy with the situation myself. Of course, you can argue that it would be much worse if he weren&#039;t hauled up before the courts because that would mean he was being protected, but let me just wonder aloud about long these shenanigans have been going on, and what sort of relationship do the two have that the allegedly criminal brother feels he can behave like this even though his brother is a long-time cabinet minister. I say &#039;even though&#039; when what I really want to say is &#039;because&#039;, given that this is how it&#039;s coming across to people, and that&#039;s just the problem. You might be naive about drug-trafficking. I&#039;m not.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Here am I, doing Labour&#8217;s job&#8221;.<br />
Daphne , you&#8217;re doing no one&#8217;s job except yours. You think you are defusing a big bomb, or exploding a bomb prematurely. I cannot understand your way of thinking. Are you really expecting John Dalli to make a press statement stating that he doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with his brother? And if he does that, would  we be &#8216;satisfied&#8217;? I think we will be in the same position we are now. Labour are being very prudent on this issue, and I don&#8217;t think they will gain votes with mud-slinging. We know that it always backfired.<br />
Would someone vote for Sharon, instead for Simon just because John is Bastjan&#8217;s brother?</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; John, I can&#8217;t understand your way of thinking, either, so that makes two of us. Labour is not being prudent. Labour is storing up ammunition for use at a more opportune moment, rather than wasting it now. It is wholly incorrect to say that &#8216;mud-slinging&#8217; &#8211; silly term &#8211; &#8216;always backfired&#8217;. Quite the contrary, it always worked for Labour. The &#8216;mud-slinging&#8217; of 1996 was phenomenally successful when coupled with Vince Farrugia&#8217;s anti-VAT hysterics, and the &#8216;mud-slinging&#8217; of 2008 did a pretty good job of eroding the Nationalist Party&#8217;s voter-base, too. &#8216;Mud-slinging&#8217; doesn&#8217;t work for those who are defending their position, and so Labour was at a loss in 1998. And 2003 was a single-issue election. And no, in this case I think Labour is being irresponsible in not raising the issue in a direct way, which means without &#8216;mud-slinging&#8217; or ulterior motives. If you&#8217;re happy living in a country where the non-estranged brother of a cabinet minister is hauled up for drug trafficking and the cabinet minister pretends he doesn&#8217;t know anything about it, even though both brothers do lots of business in Libya and the cabinet minister brother runs a Portomaso office especially for doing business with Libya, then fine. I&#8217;m not at all happy with the situation myself. Of course, you can argue that it would be much worse if he weren&#8217;t hauled up before the courts because that would mean he was being protected, but let me just wonder aloud about long these shenanigans have been going on, and what sort of relationship do the two have that the allegedly criminal brother feels he can behave like this even though his brother is a long-time cabinet minister. I say &#8216;even though&#8217; when what I really want to say is &#8216;because&#8217;, given that this is how it&#8217;s coming across to people, and that&#8217;s just the problem. You might be naive about drug-trafficking. I&#8217;m not.]</strong></p>
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		By: Manuel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Manuel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nary a word from the PL about John Dalli in the context of his brother’s latest alleged criminal activity, so far. Credit where it is due?

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Not at all. Labour is pants as always. Here am I, doing Labour&#039;s job and pointing out the very things that Joseph Muscat should be saying, while he crusades with Astrid Vella against an underground museum. Labour should speak now or forever hold its peace. But I think that Labour is holding its peace now so as to have greater ammunition later, because in a campaign called Direzzjoni Success it&#039;s not the present problem of having a minister with an allegedly drug-trafficking brother that concerns the party, but how this information can be used in an electoral campaign.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nary a word from the PL about John Dalli in the context of his brother’s latest alleged criminal activity, so far. Credit where it is due?</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Not at all. Labour is pants as always. Here am I, doing Labour&#8217;s job and pointing out the very things that Joseph Muscat should be saying, while he crusades with Astrid Vella against an underground museum. Labour should speak now or forever hold its peace. But I think that Labour is holding its peace now so as to have greater ammunition later, because in a campaign called Direzzjoni Success it&#8217;s not the present problem of having a minister with an allegedly drug-trafficking brother that concerns the party, but how this information can be used in an electoral campaign.]</strong></p>
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		By: Andrea		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Mario P

Do you know Achmed, the Dead Terrorist?
Similar to a Muppet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mario P</p>
<p>Do you know Achmed, the Dead Terrorist?<br />
Similar to a Muppet:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go</a></p>
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		By: Mario P		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mario P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A muppet with HIV? I can&#039;t wait for the suicide bommber Muppet. In the meantime, Animal remains my fave - you can see him on YouTube.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A muppet with HIV? I can&#8217;t wait for the suicide bommber Muppet. In the meantime, Animal remains my fave &#8211; you can see him on YouTube.</p>
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		By: John Schembri		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/02/what-was-it-we-were-talking-about-the-other-day/#comment-21089</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Schembri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Daphne:Minister Dalli is the minister responsible for medicinals (legal drugs). The Commissioner of Police is responsible for the fight against illicit drugs. He falls under the responsibility of Minister Carmelo Mifsud Bonnici. Minister Dalli has another brother who is a priest. What should Dun Gorg do? Should he be investigated? Should he leave the church? Should we put Dun Gorg on one side of the balance, Bastjan on the other and Minister John in the middle and see which way the balance tips? We are not our brother&#039;s keepers. We hardly know what our 19 year old &#039;children&#039; are up too! I would have agreed with you if you stated that a minister&#039;s brother tries to influence people by pretending that he has friends in high places.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - The answer to your quandary lies in your last sentence. It doesn&#039;t take a gigantic leap of the imagination to realise that this is precisely how he sells himself, even if without his brother&#039;s knowledge - especially, I would imagine, in Libya.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Daphne:Minister Dalli is the minister responsible for medicinals (legal drugs). The Commissioner of Police is responsible for the fight against illicit drugs. He falls under the responsibility of Minister Carmelo Mifsud Bonnici. Minister Dalli has another brother who is a priest. What should Dun Gorg do? Should he be investigated? Should he leave the church? Should we put Dun Gorg on one side of the balance, Bastjan on the other and Minister John in the middle and see which way the balance tips? We are not our brother&#8217;s keepers. We hardly know what our 19 year old &#8216;children&#8217; are up too! I would have agreed with you if you stated that a minister&#8217;s brother tries to influence people by pretending that he has friends in high places.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; The answer to your quandary lies in your last sentence. It doesn&#8217;t take a gigantic leap of the imagination to realise that this is precisely how he sells himself, even if without his brother&#8217;s knowledge &#8211; especially, I would imagine, in Libya.]</strong></p>
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		By: J.L.B. Matekoni		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.L.B. Matekoni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PS. I thought people were tried and judged on what they committed and not on what their intentions actually were. I am honestly confused.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Of course you can be prosecuted and convicted for your intentions. Conspiracy to commit a crime is just that. You can be prosecuted for plotting to rob a bank, prosecuted for planning a murder, prosecuted for organising a terrorist attack - even if all your plans fall through.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS. I thought people were tried and judged on what they committed and not on what their intentions actually were. I am honestly confused.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Of course you can be prosecuted and convicted for your intentions. Conspiracy to commit a crime is just that. You can be prosecuted for plotting to rob a bank, prosecuted for planning a murder, prosecuted for organising a terrorist attack &#8211; even if all your plans fall through.]</strong></p>
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		By: J.L.B. Matekoni		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.L.B. Matekoni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne - excuse my ignorance but if the only police evidence is bars of soap how can they nail Bastjan Dalli? - never mind his previous exploits - although admittedly it is still highly embarrassing for the Minister. This has parallels with the Steve Marsden case where the man got 25 years for importing non-illegal substances even though he may have thought he was importing ecstasy.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - It also has parallels with the Godfrey Ellul case: he imported cocaine but was convicted for smuggling emeralds, because he claimed that this is what he thought he was doing. His character witness in court, who said that Ellul would never do such a vile thing as import cocaine? Noel Arrigo, then a judge already.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne &#8211; excuse my ignorance but if the only police evidence is bars of soap how can they nail Bastjan Dalli? &#8211; never mind his previous exploits &#8211; although admittedly it is still highly embarrassing for the Minister. This has parallels with the Steve Marsden case where the man got 25 years for importing non-illegal substances even though he may have thought he was importing ecstasy.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; It also has parallels with the Godfrey Ellul case: he imported cocaine but was convicted for smuggling emeralds, because he claimed that this is what he thought he was doing. His character witness in court, who said that Ellul would never do such a vile thing as import cocaine? Noel Arrigo, then a judge already.]</strong></p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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