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		By: kev		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24270</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24263&quot;&gt;Amanda Mallia&lt;/a&gt;.

Baxxter, no one is crusading for the 6th seat. You are being informed of an important fact: the Lammassoure-Severin report, agreed by the European Parliament in October 2007, does not have to be tied to the Lisbon treaty. It could have been agreed in Council and ratified as an amendment to the current treaties. If Lisbon fails definitively, then there&#039;s the Croatia Accession treaty in 2010. Did you know that? No, as many others who have blabbering about &#039;losing the sixth seat if Lisbon fails&#039;.

Be informed, man! What&#039;s with you? Too young?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24263">Amanda Mallia</a>.</p>
<p>Baxxter, no one is crusading for the 6th seat. You are being informed of an important fact: the Lammassoure-Severin report, agreed by the European Parliament in October 2007, does not have to be tied to the Lisbon treaty. It could have been agreed in Council and ratified as an amendment to the current treaties. If Lisbon fails definitively, then there&#8217;s the Croatia Accession treaty in 2010. Did you know that? No, as many others who have blabbering about &#8216;losing the sixth seat if Lisbon fails&#8217;.</p>
<p>Be informed, man! What&#8217;s with you? Too young?</p>
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		By: Amanda Mallia		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24269</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amanda Mallia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24260&quot;&gt;kev&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Whether I want Croatia to join is highly irrelevant&quot;

Oh, so have Kev and Sha now morphed?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24260">kev</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Whether I want Croatia to join is highly irrelevant&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, so have Kev and Sha now morphed?</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24268</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24263&quot;&gt;Amanda Mallia&lt;/a&gt;.

And you think YOU make sense? Or your wife? Five years ago she was shedding tears imploring us not to join the EU. Today she&#039;s crusading for the sixth seat. Hope she gets elected, so she&#039;ll be sucked into the superstate&#039;s evil epicentre and disappear forever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24263">Amanda Mallia</a>.</p>
<p>And you think YOU make sense? Or your wife? Five years ago she was shedding tears imploring us not to join the EU. Today she&#8217;s crusading for the sixth seat. Hope she gets elected, so she&#8217;ll be sucked into the superstate&#8217;s evil epicentre and disappear forever.</p>
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		By: kev		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24267</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24263&quot;&gt;Amanda Mallia&lt;/a&gt;.

Veru Amanda, l-Emmipeez suppost Europhiles biss ikunu ghax il-Pirlament Arjupej ghal tal-IVA biss qieghed. Ghidilha, Mrs Mallia, ghax int taf.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24263">Amanda Mallia</a>.</p>
<p>Veru Amanda, l-Emmipeez suppost Europhiles biss ikunu ghax il-Pirlament Arjupej ghal tal-IVA biss qieghed. Ghidilha, Mrs Mallia, ghax int taf.</p>
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		By: kev		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24266</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24257&quot;&gt;D Ellul&lt;/a&gt;.

No, D Ellul, Daphne is implying that the PN polls show a 4 - 1 &quot;defeat&quot;. But she does not seem to be convinced herself, so there.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - It&#039;s not a matter of not being convinced, but of knowing, unlike Jason Micallef, that things can change drastically in a couple of months.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24257">D Ellul</a>.</p>
<p>No, D Ellul, Daphne is implying that the PN polls show a 4 &#8211; 1 &#8220;defeat&#8221;. But she does not seem to be convinced herself, so there.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; It&#8217;s not a matter of not being convinced, but of knowing, unlike Jason Micallef, that things can change drastically in a couple of months.]</strong></p>
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		By: kev		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24265</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24260&quot;&gt;kev&lt;/a&gt;.

@Baxxter - &quot;U ija, Nice, Lisbon, Croatia… Jigifieri Sharon favur li l-Kroazja tidhol fl-EU? Favur l-integrazzjoni ta’ iktar pajjizi vittmi f’dan il-federal superstate? Faith and begob, ma nafx x’naqbad nghidlek, Kevin. Qiskom id-David Copperfield tal-politika intom it-tnejn - l-illuzjonista, mhux l-iehor.&quot;

Is that your best straw, Baxxter? Whether I want Croatia to join is highly irrelevant. Just keep to Copperfield and you&#039;ll make more sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24260">kev</a>.</p>
<p>@Baxxter &#8211; &#8220;U ija, Nice, Lisbon, Croatia… Jigifieri Sharon favur li l-Kroazja tidhol fl-EU? Favur l-integrazzjoni ta’ iktar pajjizi vittmi f’dan il-federal superstate? Faith and begob, ma nafx x’naqbad nghidlek, Kevin. Qiskom id-David Copperfield tal-politika intom it-tnejn &#8211; l-illuzjonista, mhux l-iehor.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is that your best straw, Baxxter? Whether I want Croatia to join is highly irrelevant. Just keep to Copperfield and you&#8217;ll make more sense.</p>
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		By: MikeC		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24264</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just to further strengthen the point about the often frivolous reasoning behind people&#039;s voting patterns, here&#039;s my voting logic EU2009, partially tinged wth hdura :)

In 2004, I felt that the job had been done, we were in, and a good shaking up wouldn&#039;t hurt the PN. So my options were to vote AD or not vote at all. (Vote MLP? what? &lt;em&gt;tghid mhux hekk&lt;/em&gt;!). My problem with voting for AD, if nothing else, was that since Arnold had &#039;lost&#039; his passport, he had moved from the &#039;we&#039;re clean, we&#039;re not politicians&#039; paradigm to &#039;we&#039;re down and dirty like the stereotype&#039;, and effectively ruled him out in my eyes. So I didn&#039;t vote.

Which means that I effectively contributed towards electing people who had spent most of the last few years campaigning against membership.

I&#039;m not about to do that again. I shall be voting for the PN candidates who were always in favour of EU membership, obviously excluding Vince Farrugia, of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to further strengthen the point about the often frivolous reasoning behind people&#8217;s voting patterns, here&#8217;s my voting logic EU2009, partially tinged wth hdura :)</p>
<p>In 2004, I felt that the job had been done, we were in, and a good shaking up wouldn&#8217;t hurt the PN. So my options were to vote AD or not vote at all. (Vote MLP? what? <em>tghid mhux hekk</em>!). My problem with voting for AD, if nothing else, was that since Arnold had &#8216;lost&#8217; his passport, he had moved from the &#8216;we&#8217;re clean, we&#8217;re not politicians&#8217; paradigm to &#8216;we&#8217;re down and dirty like the stereotype&#8217;, and effectively ruled him out in my eyes. So I didn&#8217;t vote.</p>
<p>Which means that I effectively contributed towards electing people who had spent most of the last few years campaigning against membership.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not about to do that again. I shall be voting for the PN candidates who were always in favour of EU membership, obviously excluding Vince Farrugia, of course.</p>
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		By: Amanda Mallia		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24263</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amanda Mallia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24254&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

If Kev Ellul Bonici&#039;s wife had her way a few years ago, we would not even be discussing MEP elections.  U xorta ghandha l-wicc tohrog ghall-elezzjonijiet tal-MEPs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24254">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>If Kev Ellul Bonici&#8217;s wife had her way a few years ago, we would not even be discussing MEP elections.  U xorta ghandha l-wicc tohrog ghall-elezzjonijiet tal-MEPs.</p>
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		By: Tal-Muzew		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24262</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tal-Muzew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have many friends (PN supporters of course) who are a disillusioned and who do not want to vote this June. I have tried to remind them what happened in 2004, but they are adamant about not voting, sort of to protest vote.

Maybe a word from you Daph, might do the trick.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - No, because I share their view that these elections are not important, except as a protest mechanism.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have many friends (PN supporters of course) who are a disillusioned and who do not want to vote this June. I have tried to remind them what happened in 2004, but they are adamant about not voting, sort of to protest vote.</p>
<p>Maybe a word from you Daph, might do the trick.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; No, because I share their view that these elections are not important, except as a protest mechanism.]</strong></p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24261</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24260&quot;&gt;kev&lt;/a&gt;.

U ija, Nice, Lisbon, Croatia... Jigifieri Sharon favur li l-Kroazja tidhol fl-EU? Favur l-integrazzjoni ta&#039; iktar pajjizi vittmi f&#039;dan il-federal superstate? Faith and begob, ma nafx x&#039;naqbad nghidlek, Kevin. Qiskom id-David Copperfield tal-politika intom it-tnejn - l-illuzjonista, mhux l-iehor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/41/#comment-24260">kev</a>.</p>
<p>U ija, Nice, Lisbon, Croatia&#8230; Jigifieri Sharon favur li l-Kroazja tidhol fl-EU? Favur l-integrazzjoni ta&#8217; iktar pajjizi vittmi f&#8217;dan il-federal superstate? Faith and begob, ma nafx x&#8217;naqbad nghidlek, Kevin. Qiskom id-David Copperfield tal-politika intom it-tnejn &#8211; l-illuzjonista, mhux l-iehor.</p>
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