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		By: Silvio Farrugia		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/oh-grow-up-joseph-muscat/#comment-24375</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silvio Farrugia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whoever says that Daphne is ugly has no idea or tastes about women.]]></description>
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		By: Graham Crocker		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/oh-grow-up-joseph-muscat/#comment-24374</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graham Crocker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/oh-grow-up-joseph-muscat/#comment-24364&quot;&gt;Raphael Dingli&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not a die-hard Nationalist. I just  don&#039;t want Ronald McDonald as my prime minister. I would prefer George Abela, for argument&#039;s sake.]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m not a die-hard Nationalist. I just  don&#8217;t want Ronald McDonald as my prime minister. I would prefer George Abela, for argument&#8217;s sake.</p>
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		By: Graham Crocker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graham Crocker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/oh-grow-up-joseph-muscat/#comment-24356&quot;&gt;Corinne Vella&lt;/a&gt;.

Alan, Barack Obama is a responsible person who fulfills his obligations and duties. He had a hot dog in his spare time, whereas Joseph Muscat blamed his passion for Big Macs and his family for not doing his duty. It&#039;s funny how you compare Joseph Muscat to Barack Obama, because Obama is a self-made man who licked nobody&#039;s arse to get to the top (wheras Muscat licked to the point he was nicknamed Poodle)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/oh-grow-up-joseph-muscat/#comment-24356">Corinne Vella</a>.</p>
<p>Alan, Barack Obama is a responsible person who fulfills his obligations and duties. He had a hot dog in his spare time, whereas Joseph Muscat blamed his passion for Big Macs and his family for not doing his duty. It&#8217;s funny how you compare Joseph Muscat to Barack Obama, because Obama is a self-made man who licked nobody&#8217;s arse to get to the top (wheras Muscat licked to the point he was nicknamed Poodle)</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/oh-grow-up-joseph-muscat/#comment-24371&quot;&gt;Corinne Vella&lt;/a&gt;.

I meant like Berlusconi in the sense that he is incredibly unstatesmanlike in his words and behaviour. It jars with the European idea of proper behaviour by a politician.]]></description>
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<p>I meant like Berlusconi in the sense that he is incredibly unstatesmanlike in his words and behaviour. It jars with the European idea of proper behaviour by a politician.</p>
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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/oh-grow-up-joseph-muscat/#comment-24370&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

Berlusconi isn&#039;t young. Joseph Muscat is half his age, but he isn&#039;t young, either. So what did you mean, exactly?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/oh-grow-up-joseph-muscat/#comment-24370">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>Berlusconi isn&#8217;t young. Joseph Muscat is half his age, but he isn&#8217;t young, either. So what did you mean, exactly?</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 06:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We could write whole volumes about the whys and wherefores, and our hibernating political analysts, if there are any, should wake up (and the smell the...all right, all right). We must be the only country in the world not to have political science publications, written by historians/political analysts (not journalists, and certainly not journalists employed by either of the two parties) dealing with anything from the last fifty years.

So it does not surprise me that Labour never learns. Any criticism is met by the standard reply: &quot;Of course you say so, you&#039;re Nationalist.&quot; Case in point being the whole debate about Gensna on this blog. And we were debating a musical, not an electoral programme. So there you go. Since Muscat became leader of the opposition he hasn&#039;t accepted one smidgen of criticism, hasn&#039;t changed anything that was suggested from outside his party, and has adopted a cavalier attitude towards his critics which may even surpass that of Alfred Sant. On top of that, he&#039;s young and unbelievably unstatesmanlike. Possibly the only European politician who comes close to that is Berlusconi.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could write whole volumes about the whys and wherefores, and our hibernating political analysts, if there are any, should wake up (and the smell the&#8230;all right, all right). We must be the only country in the world not to have political science publications, written by historians/political analysts (not journalists, and certainly not journalists employed by either of the two parties) dealing with anything from the last fifty years.</p>
<p>So it does not surprise me that Labour never learns. Any criticism is met by the standard reply: &#8220;Of course you say so, you&#8217;re Nationalist.&#8221; Case in point being the whole debate about Gensna on this blog. And we were debating a musical, not an electoral programme. So there you go. Since Muscat became leader of the opposition he hasn&#8217;t accepted one smidgen of criticism, hasn&#8217;t changed anything that was suggested from outside his party, and has adopted a cavalier attitude towards his critics which may even surpass that of Alfred Sant. On top of that, he&#8217;s young and unbelievably unstatesmanlike. Possibly the only European politician who comes close to that is Berlusconi.</p>
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		By: marika mifsud		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marika mifsud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 05:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure that not all prime ministers, presidents, ministers (and their partners) are keen on classical music but they still turn up for official or important concerts. Who knows what JM would do?

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Go on BondiPlus to say that he stayed home to listen to a Killers CD.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure that not all prime ministers, presidents, ministers (and their partners) are keen on classical music but they still turn up for official or important concerts. Who knows what JM would do?</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Go on BondiPlus to say that he stayed home to listen to a Killers CD.]</strong></p>
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		By: Claude Sciberras		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claude Sciberras]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read Alan&#039;s piece and I cry...  I cry because I know that there are a great number of persons who actually reason like him.  Alan, you missed the point about Dr. Muscat&#039;s absence completely.  Even if he was informed on the day he should have left everything and gone to the meal because it is important for him to be there, because it is his duty to be there as representative of half the nation and because it is no big deal to come to Malta from Sicily and return the next day if necessary.

You are speaking about a person who potentially could be your next prime minister and you have no qualms about this because you are short-sighted.  Let&#039;s imagine Dr. Muscat is now PM and six days before he is going for a nice holiday with the wife and kids something major happens in Malta which requires him being here.  Will he leave again?  Are you convinced he will not?  I think you need to look at the hamburger/dinner incident in this light and the comments and sarcasm in this blog too.

I also cannot agree with the statement that the young generation is in some way repelling politics.  This is not only a generalisation but has no factual evidence.  It is very normal that the younger generation is less interested in politics but that does not mean we all are.  In the latest election it was the young vote which most probably swayed the result and that should mean something.  What is bothering most young people is the way in which certain people cannot rise above petty partisan politics and discuss maturely and do what is best for the country.

What the young generation cannot tolerate is people who take them for a ride, first telling them the EU is evil personified, then being elected MEP and getting a nice big salary for doing so and then returning to Malta like Moses from the mountain telling us that with hindsight he might have been wrong about the EU.  The MLP or PL has not yet learned its lessons.  The PN even in government learns its lessons (I&#039;m not licking but it&#039;s true) and time and again has shown it knows what the people want and can adjust to give them what they want and need within the limits of the country.

Take the last election.  When the campaign started Labour was clearly ahead but they ruined everything because they do not know what Malta wants and as the Maltese say &#039;ikejlu b&#039;xibirhom&#039; thinking that all Malta has the same mentality as the Labour diehards, luckily not!

If Labour want to become Malta&#039;s next government to serve us (not just to be in government) then they need to do the following:  a) either get a seasoned, moderate leader or at least get Dr Muscat to act like one; b) get rid of the militant, Mintoffian factions; c) make a clear break with the past and stop trying to glorify it (a comment which really bugged me recently was one by Dr Muscat in parliament, I think, when he said that that Dr Fenech Adami had, like the presidents who preceded him, continued to enhance the role of the presidency - so Eddie did what Agatha did?);  d) start thinking like a government-in-waiting rather than an opportunist wanting to gain a couple of votes, and e) start working on their electoral manifesto from now so that when election time comes - as it inevitably will - they will be prepared and not make a fiasco like last time round with the reception class idea. Recently I was following a parliamentary debate and the Hon. Carmelo Abela said that reception class idea was a great idea but which was rubbished by PN for political reasons. Even here it is clear Labour learned absolutely nothing.  The reception class idea was a bad idea, it was not thought of properly and even when they tried to explain it they were not getting any support. But it&#039;s not their idea that was crap but that the PN rubbished it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Alan&#8217;s piece and I cry&#8230;  I cry because I know that there are a great number of persons who actually reason like him.  Alan, you missed the point about Dr. Muscat&#8217;s absence completely.  Even if he was informed on the day he should have left everything and gone to the meal because it is important for him to be there, because it is his duty to be there as representative of half the nation and because it is no big deal to come to Malta from Sicily and return the next day if necessary.</p>
<p>You are speaking about a person who potentially could be your next prime minister and you have no qualms about this because you are short-sighted.  Let&#8217;s imagine Dr. Muscat is now PM and six days before he is going for a nice holiday with the wife and kids something major happens in Malta which requires him being here.  Will he leave again?  Are you convinced he will not?  I think you need to look at the hamburger/dinner incident in this light and the comments and sarcasm in this blog too.</p>
<p>I also cannot agree with the statement that the young generation is in some way repelling politics.  This is not only a generalisation but has no factual evidence.  It is very normal that the younger generation is less interested in politics but that does not mean we all are.  In the latest election it was the young vote which most probably swayed the result and that should mean something.  What is bothering most young people is the way in which certain people cannot rise above petty partisan politics and discuss maturely and do what is best for the country.</p>
<p>What the young generation cannot tolerate is people who take them for a ride, first telling them the EU is evil personified, then being elected MEP and getting a nice big salary for doing so and then returning to Malta like Moses from the mountain telling us that with hindsight he might have been wrong about the EU.  The MLP or PL has not yet learned its lessons.  The PN even in government learns its lessons (I&#8217;m not licking but it&#8217;s true) and time and again has shown it knows what the people want and can adjust to give them what they want and need within the limits of the country.</p>
<p>Take the last election.  When the campaign started Labour was clearly ahead but they ruined everything because they do not know what Malta wants and as the Maltese say &#8216;ikejlu b&#8217;xibirhom&#8217; thinking that all Malta has the same mentality as the Labour diehards, luckily not!</p>
<p>If Labour want to become Malta&#8217;s next government to serve us (not just to be in government) then they need to do the following:  a) either get a seasoned, moderate leader or at least get Dr Muscat to act like one; b) get rid of the militant, Mintoffian factions; c) make a clear break with the past and stop trying to glorify it (a comment which really bugged me recently was one by Dr Muscat in parliament, I think, when he said that that Dr Fenech Adami had, like the presidents who preceded him, continued to enhance the role of the presidency &#8211; so Eddie did what Agatha did?);  d) start thinking like a government-in-waiting rather than an opportunist wanting to gain a couple of votes, and e) start working on their electoral manifesto from now so that when election time comes &#8211; as it inevitably will &#8211; they will be prepared and not make a fiasco like last time round with the reception class idea. Recently I was following a parliamentary debate and the Hon. Carmelo Abela said that reception class idea was a great idea but which was rubbished by PN for political reasons. Even here it is clear Labour learned absolutely nothing.  The reception class idea was a bad idea, it was not thought of properly and even when they tried to explain it they were not getting any support. But it&#8217;s not their idea that was crap but that the PN rubbished it.</p>
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		By: Jo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[During a news broadcast this morning, it was said that when our burger eater - leader of the opposition - heard some educated youngsters say  (Bondi Plus?) that it was his duty to attend public functions, he called them &quot;xjuh&quot;! How&#039;s that for maturity of judgement?

I will take a page out of the Opposition&#039;s book and suggest that two euro thirty three cents should be deducted from his salary for &quot;juvenile&quot; behaviour not consonant with his office.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Yes, it was on BondiPlus. Because the young panel who were with him on the show were speaking properly and arguing intelligently, he found it odd. Apparently, to be properly young you have to say &#039;man&#039; and lather your hair into gelled shapes like that cartoon dork on STR82DPoint.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During a news broadcast this morning, it was said that when our burger eater &#8211; leader of the opposition &#8211; heard some educated youngsters say  (Bondi Plus?) that it was his duty to attend public functions, he called them &#8220;xjuh&#8221;! How&#8217;s that for maturity of judgement?</p>
<p>I will take a page out of the Opposition&#8217;s book and suggest that two euro thirty three cents should be deducted from his salary for &#8220;juvenile&#8221; behaviour not consonant with his office.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Yes, it was on BondiPlus. Because the young panel who were with him on the show were speaking properly and arguing intelligently, he found it odd. Apparently, to be properly young you have to say &#8216;man&#8217; and lather your hair into gelled shapes like that cartoon dork on STR82DPoint.]</strong></p>
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		By: Everlasting Joy from down under…x’textix		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Everlasting Joy from down under…x’textix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/oh-grow-up-joseph-muscat/#comment-24336&quot;&gt;Daphne Caruana Galizia&lt;/a&gt;.

Daphne, please check this out.

Maybe we have found our exported Adonis…all 64 inches of him

…and, that is from head to toes, OK?

...and he calls you ugly?


Raphael Dingli

http://www.google.com/s2/profiles/116707068749458412226

Manager at Dept Of Education &#038; Employment; Student at school of everlasting joy
Australia

http://www.sci.fi/~signal/022.htm

Time : Mon May 26 18:41:21 1997
Name : Raphael Dingli
Address :
Email
A:41m L:e,i, Maltese E:3 O:11 H:15,17,24,26,30,28,29,46,47,50,51
Signal is : fantastic, very comprehensive
Greetings to others : Hi all, I will respond any letters from any females form anywhere if you supply a photo, please note I am 5&#039;4&quot; and seeking friendship and more !!


http://www.sci.fi/~signal/021.htm

Time : Thu Jun 12 18:25:09 1997
Name : Raphael Dingli
Address :
Email raphael@maltanet.net
A:41m L:e, i, Maltese E:2 O: consultant H:13 15 17 19 28 29 30 38 42 46 47 48 50 51 52
Signal is : testing it&#039;s communication power
Greetings to others : Hi all, I am looking for female friends &#038; maybe more..!!


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&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - &quot;I am 5&#039; 4&quot;. Yes, right - though I might have been wearing six-inch heels back in 1997 when he was a friend&#039;s house-guest. But I&#039;d say even your 64 inches is pushing it. Thanks for this. It&#039;s nice to know he&#039;s been trying to find a shag on the internet for the last 12 years.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/oh-grow-up-joseph-muscat/#comment-24336">Daphne Caruana Galizia</a>.</p>
<p>Daphne, please check this out.</p>
<p>Maybe we have found our exported Adonis…all 64 inches of him</p>
<p>…and, that is from head to toes, OK?</p>
<p>&#8230;and he calls you ugly?</p>
<p>Raphael Dingli</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/s2/profiles/116707068749458412226" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.google.com/s2/profiles/116707068749458412226</a></p>
<p>Manager at Dept Of Education &amp; Employment; Student at school of everlasting joy<br />
Australia</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sci.fi/~signal/022.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.sci.fi/~signal/022.htm</a></p>
<p>Time : Mon May 26 18:41:21 1997<br />
Name : Raphael Dingli<br />
Address :<br />
Email<br />
A:41m L:e,i, Maltese E:3 O:11 H:15,17,24,26,30,28,29,46,47,50,51<br />
Signal is : fantastic, very comprehensive<br />
Greetings to others : Hi all, I will respond any letters from any females form anywhere if you supply a photo, please note I am 5&#8217;4&#8243; and seeking friendship and more !!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sci.fi/~signal/021.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.sci.fi/~signal/021.htm</a></p>
<p>Time : Thu Jun 12 18:25:09 1997<br />
Name : Raphael Dingli<br />
Address :<br />
Email <a href="mailto:raphael@maltanet.net">raphael@maltanet.net</a><br />
A:41m L:e, i, Maltese E:2 O: consultant H:13 15 17 19 28 29 30 38 42 46 47 48 50 51 52<br />
Signal is : testing it&#8217;s communication power<br />
Greetings to others : Hi all, I am looking for female friends &amp; maybe more..!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pasthound.com/topics/Dingli?PHPSESSID=4q115j6e3p339i0n2emfkg8j70" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.pasthound.com/topics/Dingli?PHPSESSID=4q115j6e3p339i0n2emfkg8j70</a></p>
<p>Raphael Dingli&#8217;s Unified Messaging Center<br />
My ICQ number is 48438123 I&#8217;m a 49 years old male &#8211; I speak English, Spanish, Italian<br />
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<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; &#8220;I am 5&#8242; 4&#8221;. Yes, right &#8211; though I might have been wearing six-inch heels back in 1997 when he was a friend&#8217;s house-guest. But I&#8217;d say even your 64 inches is pushing it. Thanks for this. It&#8217;s nice to know he&#8217;s been trying to find a shag on the internet for the last 12 years.]</strong></p>
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