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		By: A Camilleri		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/tony-blair-more-like-jean-marie-le-pen/#comment-23858</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 20:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/tony-blair-more-like-jean-marie-le-pen/#comment-23854&quot;&gt;A Camilleri&lt;/a&gt;.

Time for an update of fact from The Times of 09MAY09.

&quot;In 2008, Malta accepted 52.5 per cent of the asylum claims made, almost twice as many as the EU average which stood at 26.8 per cent. In fact, last year, Malta processed a total of 2,685 claims and accepted 1,410 applications.

The Home Affairs Minister Carm Mifsud Bonnici had recently spoken about this, saying the EU were afraid of sharing the burden because they thought Malta had a liberal system which awarded protection with ease. Instead, he argued, the high figures stemmed from the fact that many of Malta&#039;s migrants were people who deserve protection.&quot;

Seems like I was not hallucinating after all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/tony-blair-more-like-jean-marie-le-pen/#comment-23854">A Camilleri</a>.</p>
<p>Time for an update of fact from The Times of 09MAY09.</p>
<p>&#8220;In 2008, Malta accepted 52.5 per cent of the asylum claims made, almost twice as many as the EU average which stood at 26.8 per cent. In fact, last year, Malta processed a total of 2,685 claims and accepted 1,410 applications.</p>
<p>The Home Affairs Minister Carm Mifsud Bonnici had recently spoken about this, saying the EU were afraid of sharing the burden because they thought Malta had a liberal system which awarded protection with ease. Instead, he argued, the high figures stemmed from the fact that many of Malta&#8217;s migrants were people who deserve protection.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seems like I was not hallucinating after all.</p>
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		By: A Camilleri		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Camilleri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne - You think I&#039;m inventing what Tonio Borg has been saying I can google and find you a couple of quotes like this: &quot;In this context, apart from the marked improvements in the legal rights of refugees and asylum seekers, one must also mention that the figures show that the approval rate of applications hovers in the region of 50%, by far one of the most positive approval rates in Europe.&quot; Don&#039;t you feel the sense of pride in the statement  &#039;by far one of the most positive rates in Europe&quot;? &lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - No. Why would I? I don&#039;t feel that involved. In fact, I can&#039;t understand why immigration has become an obsession for some people. There are more urgent concerns, despite what the Foreign Minister says.]&lt;/strong&gt;

My original point was that in this manner we are making the island a lucrative destination of choice. [Daphne - You&#039;re joking, right? The most lucrative destination of choice is the United Kingdom, where they are all heading, but it&#039;s a little bit difficult to get there by sea from Libya.] I don&#039;t believe that most illegal immigrants end up here by chance. &lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - You&#039;re not a sailor, then.]&lt;/strong&gt;

http://www.tonioborg.com/docs/news/asylumseekersconference.pdf

I&#039;m sure I&#039;ve heard Tonio Borg repeat this statement a number of times over the years, but I thought this was a discussion blog, not a thesis.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - It&#039;s a blog owned and operated by somebody for whom words have a precise meaning, and who has no patience for people who think like they&#039;re suffering from a bad case of the mental runs.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne &#8211; You think I&#8217;m inventing what Tonio Borg has been saying I can google and find you a couple of quotes like this: &#8220;In this context, apart from the marked improvements in the legal rights of refugees and asylum seekers, one must also mention that the figures show that the approval rate of applications hovers in the region of 50%, by far one of the most positive approval rates in Europe.&#8221; Don&#8217;t you feel the sense of pride in the statement  &#8216;by far one of the most positive rates in Europe&#8221;? <strong>[Daphne &#8211; No. Why would I? I don&#8217;t feel that involved. In fact, I can&#8217;t understand why immigration has become an obsession for some people. There are more urgent concerns, despite what the Foreign Minister says.]</strong></p>
<p>My original point was that in this manner we are making the island a lucrative destination of choice. [Daphne &#8211; You&#8217;re joking, right? The most lucrative destination of choice is the United Kingdom, where they are all heading, but it&#8217;s a little bit difficult to get there by sea from Libya.] I don&#8217;t believe that most illegal immigrants end up here by chance. <strong>[Daphne &#8211; You&#8217;re not a sailor, then.]</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.tonioborg.com/docs/news/asylumseekersconference.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.tonioborg.com/docs/news/asylumseekersconference.pdf</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve heard Tonio Borg repeat this statement a number of times over the years, but I thought this was a discussion blog, not a thesis.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; It&#8217;s a blog owned and operated by somebody for whom words have a precise meaning, and who has no patience for people who think like they&#8217;re suffering from a bad case of the mental runs.]</strong></p>
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		By: A Camilleri		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Camilleri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne:  I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll agree that authorities aren&#039;t exactly forthcoming with information.  Even authorities are vague in their estimates of the number of illegal immigrants remaining in Malta. When Dr Henry Frendo/Mgr Victor Grech provided some information they was accused of creating hysteria. Meanwhile, feel free to deride anyone you don&#039;t agree with on the subject.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Actually, I was about to raise the issue of why Henry Frendo is allowed to sit on the Refugee Appeals Board when his contributions to the media on the subject of immigration display simmering xenophobic tendencies, suspicion of The Other, and shall I suggest...just the merest hint of racism?]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne:  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll agree that authorities aren&#8217;t exactly forthcoming with information.  Even authorities are vague in their estimates of the number of illegal immigrants remaining in Malta. When Dr Henry Frendo/Mgr Victor Grech provided some information they was accused of creating hysteria. Meanwhile, feel free to deride anyone you don&#8217;t agree with on the subject.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Actually, I was about to raise the issue of why Henry Frendo is allowed to sit on the Refugee Appeals Board when his contributions to the media on the subject of immigration display simmering xenophobic tendencies, suspicion of The Other, and shall I suggest&#8230;just the merest hint of racism?]</strong></p>
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		By: A Camilleri		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Camilleri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Daphne.  I&#039;m not claiming I&#039;m an expert on the situation. Like most others I get my information from press reports.  This extract indicates that the pocket-money to those who don&#039;t enjoy refugee status is Eur 130 per month.  &quot;Benefiting from temporary protection for the last three weeks, which is valid until 24 February 2010, the young man spends his days in a makeshift camp erected opposite his former prison with, in his pocket, the €130 of aid given to him each month by the Maltese authorities.&quot;

From this extract then it appears that those with refugee status are entitled for social benefits, and that they now expect more including social housing: &quot;As things stand, unless the migrants are given refugee status, they cannot apply for social assistance in the same way Maltese people can. Katrine Camilleri, a human-rights lawyer, said even those with subsidiary protection should be entitled to core social welfare benefits - but Malta did not yet have such a mechanism in place. &quot;Malta does not yet have a system for migrants to obtain financial assistance once they have left the centres,&quot; she said.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daphne.  I&#8217;m not claiming I&#8217;m an expert on the situation. Like most others I get my information from press reports.  This extract indicates that the pocket-money to those who don&#8217;t enjoy refugee status is Eur 130 per month.  &#8220;Benefiting from temporary protection for the last three weeks, which is valid until 24 February 2010, the young man spends his days in a makeshift camp erected opposite his former prison with, in his pocket, the €130 of aid given to him each month by the Maltese authorities.&#8221;</p>
<p>From this extract then it appears that those with refugee status are entitled for social benefits, and that they now expect more including social housing: &#8220;As things stand, unless the migrants are given refugee status, they cannot apply for social assistance in the same way Maltese people can. Katrine Camilleri, a human-rights lawyer, said even those with subsidiary protection should be entitled to core social welfare benefits &#8211; but Malta did not yet have such a mechanism in place. &#8220;Malta does not yet have a system for migrants to obtain financial assistance once they have left the centres,&#8221; she said.&#8221;</p>
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		By: A Camilleri		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Priding ourselves in being the country which grants the highest percentage of refugee status does not help. [Daphne - We don&#039;t. Where did you get that?] &lt;/em&gt;

If memory serves me well from a press report quoting Tonio Borg a few years back.   Also from other press reports such as this extract &quot;Dr Falzon said at least 60 per cent of asylum seekers who landed in Malta were granted some form of protection status. &quot;This figure proves that the majority of those who arrive cannot be sent back without having their application processed,&quot; he explained.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Oh, very well researched and argued: a vaguely remembered press report of something that Tonio Borg may or may not have said a few years ago. And an article in which Dr Falzon rightly claims that 60 per cent of asylum seekers are granted &#039;some form of protection status&#039;. How does that make Malta &quot;the country which grants the highest percentage of refugee status&quot;? Our schools have failed....]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Priding ourselves in being the country which grants the highest percentage of refugee status does not help. [Daphne &#8211; We don&#8217;t. Where did you get that?] </em></p>
<p>If memory serves me well from a press report quoting Tonio Borg a few years back.   Also from other press reports such as this extract &#8220;Dr Falzon said at least 60 per cent of asylum seekers who landed in Malta were granted some form of protection status. &#8220;This figure proves that the majority of those who arrive cannot be sent back without having their application processed,&#8221; he explained.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Oh, very well researched and argued: a vaguely remembered press report of something that Tonio Borg may or may not have said a few years ago. And an article in which Dr Falzon rightly claims that 60 per cent of asylum seekers are granted &#8216;some form of protection status&#8217;. How does that make Malta &#8220;the country which grants the highest percentage of refugee status&#8221;? Our schools have failed&#8230;.]</strong></p>
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		By: Angie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Muscat said that immigrants need to be taught “that people queue for what they need, and that they do not relieve themselves in public”

Does Muscat ever queue for anything?  I was on holiday in Malta last December.  Two of my children went over to a candy floss stand.  They stood there for ten minutes at the top of the queue, ignored and trampled on because they were speaking English and didn’t know the rules of the Maltese jungle. At the end of it I had to go over myself and give the seller a piece of my mind in Maltese. They were served after that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muscat said that immigrants need to be taught “that people queue for what they need, and that they do not relieve themselves in public”</p>
<p>Does Muscat ever queue for anything?  I was on holiday in Malta last December.  Two of my children went over to a candy floss stand.  They stood there for ten minutes at the top of the queue, ignored and trampled on because they were speaking English and didn’t know the rules of the Maltese jungle. At the end of it I had to go over myself and give the seller a piece of my mind in Maltese. They were served after that.</p>
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		By: NGT		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NGT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@DCG: &#039;They can travel abroad, but must live and work in Malta, or wherever they were given refugee status.&#039;

I am not that familiar with EU border regulations but wouldn&#039;t that particular regulation be redundant now Malta&#039;s a Schengen country?

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Border regulations have nothing to do with it. With or without border controls, you need permission to live and work in the EU if you are not an EU citizen. The fact that you have refugee status in Malta does not mean you have a Maltese passport.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DCG: &#8216;They can travel abroad, but must live and work in Malta, or wherever they were given refugee status.&#8217;</p>
<p>I am not that familiar with EU border regulations but wouldn&#8217;t that particular regulation be redundant now Malta&#8217;s a Schengen country?</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Border regulations have nothing to do with it. With or without border controls, you need permission to live and work in the EU if you are not an EU citizen. The fact that you have refugee status in Malta does not mean you have a Maltese passport.]</strong></p>
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		By: A Camilleri		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/03/tony-blair-more-like-jean-marie-le-pen/#comment-23851</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Camilleri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Daphne.  With refugee status they don&#039;t have to stay here. At least that&#039;s what I can conclude from press reports such as this:  &quot;But magistrate Joseph Apap Bologna reminded Dr Porsella Flores that his client had come to Malta from Italy, enjoyed refugee status and through the Schengen agreement could travel all over Europe. Times 21March &quot;Human Trafficker was here &#039;on Holiday&#039;.&quot;

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - They can travel abroad, but must live and work in Malta, or wherever they were given refugee status.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daphne.  With refugee status they don&#8217;t have to stay here. At least that&#8217;s what I can conclude from press reports such as this:  &#8220;But magistrate Joseph Apap Bologna reminded Dr Porsella Flores that his client had come to Malta from Italy, enjoyed refugee status and through the Schengen agreement could travel all over Europe. Times 21March &#8220;Human Trafficker was here &#8216;on Holiday&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; They can travel abroad, but must live and work in Malta, or wherever they were given refugee status.]</strong></p>
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		By: Amanda Mallia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amanda Mallia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kieli - I take it that this is what you are referring to:

http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/03/21/friday-21-march-1130hrs/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kieli &#8211; I take it that this is what you are referring to:</p>
<p><a href="http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/03/21/friday-21-march-1130hrs/" rel="ugc">http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2008/03/21/friday-21-march-1130hrs/</a></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cikki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Maryanne

Thank you for pointing out David Grillo&#039;s article. I&#039;d have liked it to be printed in The Times. Then maybe some of the racists, who are always so ready to write a venomous comment, would have seen some sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Maryanne</p>
<p>Thank you for pointing out David Grillo&#8217;s article. I&#8217;d have liked it to be printed in The Times. Then maybe some of the racists, who are always so ready to write a venomous comment, would have seen some sense.</p>
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