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	<description>Daphne Caruana Galizia is a journalist working in Malta.</description>
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		By: Gillian		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Daphne, from what I have read in your article I understand that you do not believe in apparations at all, not even the ones that have been established by the church as real, such as Lourdes etc. Of course everyone is free to believe in what they choose to believe in. I would like to suggest something-perhaps you could try going on the hill of Borg in-Nadur to experience a wonderful sense of peace. I promise that you will not be disappointed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Daphne, from what I have read in your article I understand that you do not believe in apparations at all, not even the ones that have been established by the church as real, such as Lourdes etc. Of course everyone is free to believe in what they choose to believe in. I would like to suggest something-perhaps you could try going on the hill of Borg in-Nadur to experience a wonderful sense of peace. I promise that you will not be disappointed.</p>
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		By: Ken		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 17:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/04/the-madonna-gold-rush/#comment-25574&quot;&gt;Mikey B.&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Mikey,
I agree with you!  I&#039;ve been to Medjugorje too.  I was a sceptic at first and ultimately, I went to witness for myself the character of the visionaries.  In my case, it was Ivan who drew my questions and scrutiny.  These people wouldn&#039;t put up with the unending questions, lack of privacy, and hardships of this unprofitable life if it were a hoax.  This whole community lives in near-poverty and these visionaries were no different.  I didn&#039;t see any swimming pools or tennis courts.  The beat up VW that Viska drove was ready for the junkyard.

What boggles my mind though is that these proud, arrogant, misinformed, cynical people commenting here have the gall to form an opinion without any research.  In their minds, they are apparently their own god and therefore capable of unerring judgment.  As the secrets of Medjugorje unfold, and the prophesied  events occur, I&#039;d love to be with some of these folks - not so much to say &quot;See, I told you so.&quot; but rather, to see the birth of their humility and wonder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/04/the-madonna-gold-rush/#comment-25574">Mikey B.</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Mikey,<br />
I agree with you!  I&#8217;ve been to Medjugorje too.  I was a sceptic at first and ultimately, I went to witness for myself the character of the visionaries.  In my case, it was Ivan who drew my questions and scrutiny.  These people wouldn&#8217;t put up with the unending questions, lack of privacy, and hardships of this unprofitable life if it were a hoax.  This whole community lives in near-poverty and these visionaries were no different.  I didn&#8217;t see any swimming pools or tennis courts.  The beat up VW that Viska drove was ready for the junkyard.</p>
<p>What boggles my mind though is that these proud, arrogant, misinformed, cynical people commenting here have the gall to form an opinion without any research.  In their minds, they are apparently their own god and therefore capable of unerring judgment.  As the secrets of Medjugorje unfold, and the prophesied  events occur, I&#8217;d love to be with some of these folks &#8211; not so much to say &#8220;See, I told you so.&#8221; but rather, to see the birth of their humility and wonder.</p>
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		By: A Camilleri		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 20:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There goes our &#039;niche&#039; tourism.  We&#039;ve got competition to our Angelik.  &quot;Holy pancakes! Virgin Mary seen on griddle&quot;.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30508304/?GT1-39001]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There goes our &#8216;niche&#8217; tourism.  We&#8217;ve got competition to our Angelik.  &#8220;Holy pancakes! Virgin Mary seen on griddle&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30508304/?GT1-39001" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30508304/?GT1-39001</a></p>
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		By: C Galea		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was appalled hearing that woman saying that during a seance uhh.. vision or whatever at Borg in-Nadur there was a host floating high in the air which landed in Angelik&#039;s hands. Is it possible that with all those cameras there, no one took a shot of this... uhhh..,. unbelievable event? Not even Catherine herself, who&#039;d surely be able to film everything from the best angle?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was appalled hearing that woman saying that during a seance uhh.. vision or whatever at Borg in-Nadur there was a host floating high in the air which landed in Angelik&#8217;s hands. Is it possible that with all those cameras there, no one took a shot of this&#8230; uhhh..,. unbelievable event? Not even Catherine herself, who&#8217;d surely be able to film everything from the best angle?</p>
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		By: Pat		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/04/the-madonna-gold-rush/#comment-25579&quot;&gt;me&lt;/a&gt;.

What also happened on Endor:
Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Princess Leia, R2D2, C3PO and Chewbacca landed on the forst moon of Endor and befriended a clan of Ewoks. The ewoks, after a glance at the gold clad droid, C3PO, took him in as their God and leader, eventually assisting him and his friends defeat the evil empire... The rest is, as they say, history.

But then again, all that happened a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/04/the-madonna-gold-rush/#comment-25579">me</a>.</p>
<p>What also happened on Endor:<br />
Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Princess Leia, R2D2, C3PO and Chewbacca landed on the forst moon of Endor and befriended a clan of Ewoks. The ewoks, after a glance at the gold clad droid, C3PO, took him in as their God and leader, eventually assisting him and his friends defeat the evil empire&#8230; The rest is, as they say, history.</p>
<p>But then again, all that happened a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away.</p>
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		By: me		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The most intriguing apparition from the old testament is in 1 Samuel 28- . Here Saul goes to the witch of Endor and requests that she brings back Samuel from the dead and she complies. Samuel was brought back from the dead and he talked with Saul.
Three points to note here;
a)	It was common practice to consult witches;
b)	He requested that a person be brought from the dead;
c)	The witch complies;
Now try to place the same case in today’s context and give some moments of brainstorming to it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most intriguing apparition from the old testament is in 1 Samuel 28- . Here Saul goes to the witch of Endor and requests that she brings back Samuel from the dead and she complies. Samuel was brought back from the dead and he talked with Saul.<br />
Three points to note here;<br />
a)	It was common practice to consult witches;<br />
b)	He requested that a person be brought from the dead;<br />
c)	The witch complies;<br />
Now try to place the same case in today’s context and give some moments of brainstorming to it.</p>
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		By: Pat		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/04/the-madonna-gold-rush/#comment-25577&quot;&gt;me&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, there are apparitions in many other countries. In India there are several reports of messages from Shiva (or one of the other thousand gods), delivered directly to gurus, or strange poor women in the middle of nowhere. President Ahmadinejad gets personal messages from the twelfth Imam, frighteningly enough about nuclear proliferation. Buddhist monks get separated from their bodies and float in distant galaxies. At least the Jews seem to have put their apparition days behind them, all to their credit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/04/the-madonna-gold-rush/#comment-25577">me</a>.</p>
<p>Actually, there are apparitions in many other countries. In India there are several reports of messages from Shiva (or one of the other thousand gods), delivered directly to gurus, or strange poor women in the middle of nowhere. President Ahmadinejad gets personal messages from the twelfth Imam, frighteningly enough about nuclear proliferation. Buddhist monks get separated from their bodies and float in distant galaxies. At least the Jews seem to have put their apparition days behind them, all to their credit.</p>
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		By: me		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Mickey B:
Whilst you claim to have a degree in theology it looks like you are missing a very important factor regarding apparitions.
It seems that all apparitions have through the ages been in Catholic countries and very rarely in others, like preaching to the converted. It is also a known fact that Catholic countries are turning away from religions. Why don’t we have an apparition in some other unreligious country, say China, having one fifth of the world population? Why not Saudi Arabia? And prove to the world the one true religion. That is further proof that all gods as preached are created by men in his own image, and woe betide he who goes against men’s dogma.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mickey B:<br />
Whilst you claim to have a degree in theology it looks like you are missing a very important factor regarding apparitions.<br />
It seems that all apparitions have through the ages been in Catholic countries and very rarely in others, like preaching to the converted. It is also a known fact that Catholic countries are turning away from religions. Why don’t we have an apparition in some other unreligious country, say China, having one fifth of the world population? Why not Saudi Arabia? And prove to the world the one true religion. That is further proof that all gods as preached are created by men in his own image, and woe betide he who goes against men’s dogma.</p>
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		By: me		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Mickey B:
Your assertions bring to the fore the point that gods are created by men, because even whilst what is considered to be the highest authority is denouncing the whole saga as a scam, you and others like you still claim that it is a divine revelation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mickey B:<br />
Your assertions bring to the fore the point that gods are created by men, because even whilst what is considered to be the highest authority is denouncing the whole saga as a scam, you and others like you still claim that it is a divine revelation.</p>
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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/04/the-madonna-gold-rush/#comment-25574&quot;&gt;Mikey B.&lt;/a&gt;.

Mikey B: It appears you misread the debate here. No one is saying Medjugorje is the work of Satan. The word is that it is the work of charlatans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/04/the-madonna-gold-rush/#comment-25574">Mikey B.</a>.</p>
<p>Mikey B: It appears you misread the debate here. No one is saying Medjugorje is the work of Satan. The word is that it is the work of charlatans.</p>
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