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		By: Adrian Buckle		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/diversity-be-damned/#comment-25859</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrian Buckle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[see the blog comments:  http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090508/local/muslims-pray-again-on-the-sliema-front

We&#039;re at it again.  Don&#039;t Maltese people realise that the ones breaking the law are the ones posting hatred and intolerant messages?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see the blog comments:  <a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090508/local/muslims-pray-again-on-the-sliema-front" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090508/local/muslims-pray-again-on-the-sliema-front</a></p>
<p>We&#8217;re at it again.  Don&#8217;t Maltese people realise that the ones breaking the law are the ones posting hatred and intolerant messages?</p>
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		By: Pat		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/diversity-be-damned/#comment-25858</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 08:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/diversity-be-damned/#comment-25857&quot;&gt;Mark M&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;The Government or some benefactor should select an abandoned property with a full permit for a place of worship for this purpose.&quot;

Don&#039;t agree. They should acquire a place of worship on their own, seek the permits and use accordingly. The government should not stand in the way for this. You see I believe firmly in a separation between mosque and state (!).

Until this is done I don&#039;t see the great harm in them praying on the seafront for a while.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/diversity-be-damned/#comment-25857">Mark M</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Government or some benefactor should select an abandoned property with a full permit for a place of worship for this purpose.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t agree. They should acquire a place of worship on their own, seek the permits and use accordingly. The government should not stand in the way for this. You see I believe firmly in a separation between mosque and state (!).</p>
<p>Until this is done I don&#8217;t see the great harm in them praying on the seafront for a while.</p>
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		By: Mark M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 07:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;I don’t care what they do in the privacy of their own home&#039;
- nobody in the right frame of mind will invite scores of worshippers into his own home on a daily basis, with so many inconveniences.  I challenge anybody of any religion to do so.

“visibly disturbed by what he saw.”
- imagine living in a residential apartment and seeing this in the ground floor apartment on a daily basis.  Mepa finally saw the light.

&#039;They should go to a mosque&#039;
-agreed. The Government or some benefactor should select an abandoned property with a full permit for a place of worship for this purpose.



&#039;believe they had the right to meet in private in the flat, provided they don’t disturb the peace, though fifty men gathering every Friday in a flat is a bit disturbing&#039;
- this is a gross contradiction: How can scores of worshippers meet regularly without disturbing the peace and tranquility of the rest of the residents in the block?

“it would become impossible to control a backlash”
- Zina has to be pressed for an explanation to this statement and steps taken accordingly.

if MEPA was right in refusing a ‘change of use’ from a residence to a place of worship...&#039;
- Of course Mepa was right, Edgar.

&#039;they should be allowed to remain in their flat where they would not be disturbing anyone&#039;.
- it is obvious that the kiosk owner doesn&#039;t live there in the block hereself, otherwise she wouldn&#039;t have said that.

&#039;The residents of the flats had to seek alternative accomodation&#039;
- unbelievable what cheek.

&#039;the gathering outside might become a regular appointment (as it was inside the flat) until their flat was reopened&#039;.
- I only hope for the sake of justice that Mepa&#039;s closing the flat is not simply a pre MEP election gimmick and would reopen the flat after the June 6 election.  Let&#039;s wait and see the outcome.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I don’t care what they do in the privacy of their own home&#8217;<br />
&#8211; nobody in the right frame of mind will invite scores of worshippers into his own home on a daily basis, with so many inconveniences.  I challenge anybody of any religion to do so.</p>
<p>“visibly disturbed by what he saw.”<br />
&#8211; imagine living in a residential apartment and seeing this in the ground floor apartment on a daily basis.  Mepa finally saw the light.</p>
<p>&#8216;They should go to a mosque&#8217;<br />
-agreed. The Government or some benefactor should select an abandoned property with a full permit for a place of worship for this purpose.</p>
<p>&#8216;believe they had the right to meet in private in the flat, provided they don’t disturb the peace, though fifty men gathering every Friday in a flat is a bit disturbing&#8217;<br />
&#8211; this is a gross contradiction: How can scores of worshippers meet regularly without disturbing the peace and tranquility of the rest of the residents in the block?</p>
<p>“it would become impossible to control a backlash”<br />
&#8211; Zina has to be pressed for an explanation to this statement and steps taken accordingly.</p>
<p>if MEPA was right in refusing a ‘change of use’ from a residence to a place of worship&#8230;&#8217;<br />
&#8211; Of course Mepa was right, Edgar.</p>
<p>&#8216;they should be allowed to remain in their flat where they would not be disturbing anyone&#8217;.<br />
&#8211; it is obvious that the kiosk owner doesn&#8217;t live there in the block hereself, otherwise she wouldn&#8217;t have said that.</p>
<p>&#8216;The residents of the flats had to seek alternative accomodation&#8217;<br />
&#8211; unbelievable what cheek.</p>
<p>&#8216;the gathering outside might become a regular appointment (as it was inside the flat) until their flat was reopened&#8217;.<br />
&#8211; I only hope for the sake of justice that Mepa&#8217;s closing the flat is not simply a pre MEP election gimmick and would reopen the flat after the June 6 election.  Let&#8217;s wait and see the outcome.</p>
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		By: Jean Azzopardi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean Azzopardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 10:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[See the comments below :
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090504/local/malta-says-it-will-help-migrants-continue-on-their-way]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See the comments below :<br />
<a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090504/local/malta-says-it-will-help-migrants-continue-on-their-way" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090504/local/malta-says-it-will-help-migrants-continue-on-their-way</a></p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 19:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh come on, what bull. I&#039;m not a Catholic myself, yet I still have this religion constantly shoved down my throat. I mean, just compare praying in a small group, peacefully not causing any disturbances, to a procession all round town, with microphones and loud speakers, attended by hundreds of people...

Just to quote... &#039;They have no right to come here and pray in front of us,” said another.........hypocrisy anyone?.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on, what bull. I&#8217;m not a Catholic myself, yet I still have this religion constantly shoved down my throat. I mean, just compare praying in a small group, peacefully not causing any disturbances, to a procession all round town, with microphones and loud speakers, attended by hundreds of people&#8230;</p>
<p>Just to quote&#8230; &#8216;They have no right to come here and pray in front of us,” said another&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;hypocrisy anyone?.</p>
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		By: Pat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 04:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some hilarious (and scary) comments from www.timesofmalta.com, as usual:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Give them an inch and they will take a mile. Isn&#039;t obstructing the highway a criminal offence?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah, they took up all four lanes of the Sliema promenade.


&quot;&lt;em&gt;Can ANYONE, Comunists, Muslims, etc. gather in a group and practice their believes? Can Roman Catholics do this in a Muslim Country&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

&quot;&lt;em&gt;It happened in Sri Lanka, it happened in Saudid Arabia it happens in Dubai, and much more in radical islamic countries. No. In Malta Muslims should not be allowed to pray in our streets, they have the mosque. One is enough for them. They dont need other places.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

&quot;&lt;em&gt;Praise God in your mosque. In Doha, Riyadh, Dubai, Jeddah, Cairo, Tunisia where it is a mulsim country we are not allowed to wear a cross let alone celebrate in the streets.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Good ol&#039; reliable Fatwa envy at play.


&quot;&lt;em&gt;My argument is that when these countries (and religions), become tollerant we will do the same.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, because setting an example would be an extremely bad thing to do.


And of course our dear old friend lgalea jumped on the bandwagon:

&quot;&lt;em&gt;THEY CAN GO TO THE KORDIN MOSQUE TO PRAY.
MALTESE CITIZENS OPEN YOUR EYES BEFORE IT&#039;S TOO LATE.
THE EU HAS ALREADY DECIDED AGAINST CRUCIFIXES AND OTHER RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS BEING SHOWN IN PUBLIC TO APPEASE THEM. WE ARE BEING INVADED BY THOUSANDS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS BECAUSE OF THE EU DUBLIN II CONVENTION. LET&#039;S GET OUT OF THE EU BEFORE IT&#039;S TOO LATE.&quot;
&lt;/em&gt;

Can&#039;t even continue, the stupidity is mind boggling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some hilarious (and scary) comments from <a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.timesofmalta.com</a>, as usual:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Give them an inch and they will take a mile. Isn&#8217;t obstructing the highway a criminal offence?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Yeah, they took up all four lanes of the Sliema promenade.</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Can ANYONE, Comunists, Muslims, etc. gather in a group and practice their believes? Can Roman Catholics do this in a Muslim Country&#8221;</em></p>
<p>&#8220;<em>It happened in Sri Lanka, it happened in Saudid Arabia it happens in Dubai, and much more in radical islamic countries. No. In Malta Muslims should not be allowed to pray in our streets, they have the mosque. One is enough for them. They dont need other places.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Praise God in your mosque. In Doha, Riyadh, Dubai, Jeddah, Cairo, Tunisia where it is a mulsim country we are not allowed to wear a cross let alone celebrate in the streets.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Good ol&#8217; reliable Fatwa envy at play.</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>My argument is that when these countries (and religions), become tollerant we will do the same.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Yes, because setting an example would be an extremely bad thing to do.</p>
<p>And of course our dear old friend lgalea jumped on the bandwagon:</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>THEY CAN GO TO THE KORDIN MOSQUE TO PRAY.<br />
MALTESE CITIZENS OPEN YOUR EYES BEFORE IT&#8217;S TOO LATE.<br />
THE EU HAS ALREADY DECIDED AGAINST CRUCIFIXES AND OTHER RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS BEING SHOWN IN PUBLIC TO APPEASE THEM. WE ARE BEING INVADED BY THOUSANDS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS BECAUSE OF THE EU DUBLIN II CONVENTION. LET&#8217;S GET OUT OF THE EU BEFORE IT&#8217;S TOO LATE.&#8221;<br />
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<p>Can&#8217;t even continue, the stupidity is mind boggling.</p>
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		By: Christian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 23:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/diversity-be-damned/#comment-25846&quot;&gt;jenny&lt;/a&gt;.

Organized and attended by the highest in the society. When the weather gets better they move to Ghajn Tuffieha.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/diversity-be-damned/#comment-25846">jenny</a>.</p>
<p>Organized and attended by the highest in the society. When the weather gets better they move to Ghajn Tuffieha.</p>
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		By: Tonio Farrugia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tonio Farrugia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 21:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/diversity-be-damned/#comment-25844&quot;&gt;Stanley Cassar Darien&lt;/a&gt;.

I am sure the objectors did not realise that the men praying included Maltese, but they were irked by them wearing Arabic clothing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/diversity-be-damned/#comment-25844">Stanley Cassar Darien</a>.</p>
<p>I am sure the objectors did not realise that the men praying included Maltese, but they were irked by them wearing Arabic clothing.</p>
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		By: edgar rossignaud		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[edgar rossignaud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 20:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem is that the negative image which Muslims have created for themselves around the world through their terrorist actions worldwide, is coming back to hit them in that the &#039;civilised West&#039; would prefer them to go away, if not totally disappear, from their local scene; so praying in the open in fashionable Ghar-id-Dud is deemed provocative. Even if MEPA was right in refusing a &#039;change of use&#039; from residential to place of worship, this should also apply to the numerous Christian prayer groups which meet regularly in private homes, with no similar application being required. In my opinion, such gatherings should be conditionally allowed, limiting the number of participants to, say twenty, and to impose sound-proofing measures such that their prayers or singing, do not disturb (and maybe irritate) neighbours. Good sense should always prevail.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that the negative image which Muslims have created for themselves around the world through their terrorist actions worldwide, is coming back to hit them in that the &#8216;civilised West&#8217; would prefer them to go away, if not totally disappear, from their local scene; so praying in the open in fashionable Ghar-id-Dud is deemed provocative. Even if MEPA was right in refusing a &#8216;change of use&#8217; from residential to place of worship, this should also apply to the numerous Christian prayer groups which meet regularly in private homes, with no similar application being required. In my opinion, such gatherings should be conditionally allowed, limiting the number of participants to, say twenty, and to impose sound-proofing measures such that their prayers or singing, do not disturb (and maybe irritate) neighbours. Good sense should always prevail.</p>
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		By: John Schembri		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Schembri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 19:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Are they going  to gather for prayer at Ghar id-Dud when there is a gale force grigale? Barrakka Gardens is a better location. I believe they had the right to meet in private in the flat, provided they don&#039;t disturb the peace, though fifty men gathering every Friday in a flat  is a bit disturbing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are they going  to gather for prayer at Ghar id-Dud when there is a gale force grigale? Barrakka Gardens is a better location. I believe they had the right to meet in private in the flat, provided they don&#8217;t disturb the peace, though fifty men gathering every Friday in a flat  is a bit disturbing.</p>
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