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	Comments on: Joseph and Michelle spend EUR60,000 on cars	</title>
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		By: Sylvana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sylvana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ghaziza DCG, tista tghidilna ftit kemm nefaq dear Austin, MINN FLUSNA, fuq il-Jaguar pls.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Ghadek sejra? Dik il-karozza li nxtrat bi flusek ghadha tieghek, ghaliex hija l-propjeta tal-istat.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ghaziza DCG, tista tghidilna ftit kemm nefaq dear Austin, MINN FLUSNA, fuq il-Jaguar pls.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Ghadek sejra? Dik il-karozza li nxtrat bi flusek ghadha tieghek, ghaliex hija l-propjeta tal-istat.]</strong></p>
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		By: Grace		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/joseph-and-michelle-spend-eur60000-on-cars/#comment-27141</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/joseph-and-michelle-spend-eur60000-on-cars/#comment-27136&quot;&gt;m marks&lt;/a&gt;.

I thought a minister gets a wage (actually two wages) for the work he does, the use of the car  together with driver and petrol are extras. I wonder does a doctor working at a polyclinic get any allowance for petrol when he makes house  calls.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Ministers receive a salary, not a wage. Labourers receive wages. Wages are paid every Friday. Salaries are paid on the last Friday of every month.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/joseph-and-michelle-spend-eur60000-on-cars/#comment-27136">m marks</a>.</p>
<p>I thought a minister gets a wage (actually two wages) for the work he does, the use of the car  together with driver and petrol are extras. I wonder does a doctor working at a polyclinic get any allowance for petrol when he makes house  calls.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Ministers receive a salary, not a wage. Labourers receive wages. Wages are paid every Friday. Salaries are paid on the last Friday of every month.]</strong></p>
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		By: John Schembri		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/joseph-and-michelle-spend-eur60000-on-cars/#comment-27140</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Schembri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/joseph-and-michelle-spend-eur60000-on-cars/#comment-27136&quot;&gt;m marks&lt;/a&gt;.

Daphne veru li Austin jahdem u jgib ir-rizultati imma l-anqas id-&quot;D&quot; ta&#039;  diplomazija ma&#039; ghandu.Il-kelma li toqghodlu hija: &quot;Zorr&quot;. Naf li jaf ikun cajtier, imma miskin hu minn jersaqlu fin-nofs, ghax ikaxkru u jaghmel vittma minnu!
In other words: &quot;A bull in a china shop&quot;.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Jien nippreferi nies hekk minn dawk li jkunu helwin f&#039;wiccek u mbaghad idahhlulek stalett go darek.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/joseph-and-michelle-spend-eur60000-on-cars/#comment-27136">m marks</a>.</p>
<p>Daphne veru li Austin jahdem u jgib ir-rizultati imma l-anqas id-&#8220;D&#8221; ta&#8217;  diplomazija ma&#8217; ghandu.Il-kelma li toqghodlu hija: &#8220;Zorr&#8221;. Naf li jaf ikun cajtier, imma miskin hu minn jersaqlu fin-nofs, ghax ikaxkru u jaghmel vittma minnu!<br />
In other words: &#8220;A bull in a china shop&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Jien nippreferi nies hekk minn dawk li jkunu helwin f&#8217;wiccek u mbaghad idahhlulek stalett go darek.]</strong></p>
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		By: Albert Ellis		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/joseph-and-michelle-spend-eur60000-on-cars/#comment-27139</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert Ellis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/joseph-and-michelle-spend-eur60000-on-cars/#comment-26931&quot;&gt;Joachim&lt;/a&gt;.

He never tried to hide it. He has nothing to hide, nothing to be ashamed of. Get your facts right.

[&lt;strong&gt;Daphne - If he wasn&#039;t trying to hide it, he would have announced it, instead of waiting for journalists to find out and announce it themselves.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/joseph-and-michelle-spend-eur60000-on-cars/#comment-26931">Joachim</a>.</p>
<p>He never tried to hide it. He has nothing to hide, nothing to be ashamed of. Get your facts right.</p>
<p>[<strong>Daphne &#8211; If he wasn&#8217;t trying to hide it, he would have announced it, instead of waiting for journalists to find out and announce it themselves.]</strong></p>
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		By: Albert Ellis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert Ellis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/joseph-and-michelle-spend-eur60000-on-cars/#comment-26924&quot;&gt;david farrugia&lt;/a&gt;.

Tghid nemmnek meta tghid li tammira l-umilta li kellom KMB u Dr.Sant? Naqra iebsa habib mil-mod kif titkellem.Il-verita hi li tridu taqbdu ma xi haga...allura qbadna mal-karozzi u ghax alfa romeo etc...niftakar kontu ghidtu li Alfred Sant sakranazz ukoll umbad irrizulta li kienet invenzjoni.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Ma kienitx invenzjoni xejn. Jien nafu f&#039;daru, mhux bhalek. U kien ovvju li kien xorob hafna meta hareg quddiem l-HQ tal-Labour wara li hareg ir-rizultat tar-referendum, u beda jixxengel u jitkellem b&#039;dak il-mod deliberat tax-xurbana, u jghid kif rebah.]&lt;/strong&gt;

Il-fatt li JM kien MEP llum hija rrelevanti. Ma jistax il-PL jieqaf sempliciment ghax fil-passat ma xtaqx jidhol membru.  Ma jfissirx li kull Laburist xtaq jibqa barra.


Din bhal tal-kunsilli ghal ewwel PL baqa lura ghax ma xtaqx li kunsilli tidhol il-politika...li kulltant iggib il-firda, sfortunatament.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/joseph-and-michelle-spend-eur60000-on-cars/#comment-26924">david farrugia</a>.</p>
<p>Tghid nemmnek meta tghid li tammira l-umilta li kellom KMB u Dr.Sant? Naqra iebsa habib mil-mod kif titkellem.Il-verita hi li tridu taqbdu ma xi haga&#8230;allura qbadna mal-karozzi u ghax alfa romeo etc&#8230;niftakar kontu ghidtu li Alfred Sant sakranazz ukoll umbad irrizulta li kienet invenzjoni.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Ma kienitx invenzjoni xejn. Jien nafu f&#8217;daru, mhux bhalek. U kien ovvju li kien xorob hafna meta hareg quddiem l-HQ tal-Labour wara li hareg ir-rizultat tar-referendum, u beda jixxengel u jitkellem b&#8217;dak il-mod deliberat tax-xurbana, u jghid kif rebah.]</strong></p>
<p>Il-fatt li JM kien MEP llum hija rrelevanti. Ma jistax il-PL jieqaf sempliciment ghax fil-passat ma xtaqx jidhol membru.  Ma jfissirx li kull Laburist xtaq jibqa barra.</p>
<p>Din bhal tal-kunsilli ghal ewwel PL baqa lura ghax ma xtaqx li kunsilli tidhol il-politika&#8230;li kulltant iggib il-firda, sfortunatament.</p>
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		By: john		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/joseph-and-michelle-spend-eur60000-on-cars/#comment-27136&quot;&gt;m marks&lt;/a&gt;.

Eh tajjeb allura austin gatt haqqu jaguar mill FLUS TAL-POPLU ghax jahdem.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Tizvelax il-mentalita tieghek. Ghal persuna bhal Austin Gatt, li ma giex minn xejn, Jaguar mislufa mihiex il-qofol tal-aspirazjoni. Imma persuni bhalek u bhal Joseph Muscat ma jistawx jifmhu xi haga bhal din. Il-ministri dejjem ikollhom karozza, u meta jitla Muscat fl-2013, dik il-Jaguar ta&#039; Gatt tmur ghand Anglu Farrugia, Ministru tal-Gustizzja, jew ghand &#039;Tie Me Up&#039; Zammit, Ministru tas-Sahha (u bilhaqq, sabu xi haga l-pulizija?). Mihiex tieghu, mhux bhall- karozza ta&#039; Joseph Muscat, li ahna inhallsu ghaliha u tibqa tieghu.]&lt;/strong&gt;

Joseph Muscat mhux jahdem?

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Le. Dak it-tip li lanqas biss jaf x&#039;inhu x-xoghol u r-responsabilta. Bl-Ingliz nghidulu &#039;spoiled&#039; u &#039;mummy&#039;s boy.&#039; Tip bhalu jikkrolla meta jkollu xeba problemi - jew jahrab, bhalma ghamel Sant fl-1998.]
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Allura Joseph Muscat illi jahdem ukoll ma jistax jixtri 60,000E f karozzi MINN FLUSU?

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Dazgur li jista. Imma imbaghad ma jithallasx EUR7,000 fis-sena ghad-depreciation taghha, ghaliex allura giet li ahna qed inhallsu ghaliha imma se tibqa &#039;asset&#039; tieghu - meta s-soltu il-karozzi li juzaw dawn in-nies jibqghu tal-istat.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/joseph-and-michelle-spend-eur60000-on-cars/#comment-27136">m marks</a>.</p>
<p>Eh tajjeb allura austin gatt haqqu jaguar mill FLUS TAL-POPLU ghax jahdem.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Tizvelax il-mentalita tieghek. Ghal persuna bhal Austin Gatt, li ma giex minn xejn, Jaguar mislufa mihiex il-qofol tal-aspirazjoni. Imma persuni bhalek u bhal Joseph Muscat ma jistawx jifmhu xi haga bhal din. Il-ministri dejjem ikollhom karozza, u meta jitla Muscat fl-2013, dik il-Jaguar ta&#8217; Gatt tmur ghand Anglu Farrugia, Ministru tal-Gustizzja, jew ghand &#8216;Tie Me Up&#8217; Zammit, Ministru tas-Sahha (u bilhaqq, sabu xi haga l-pulizija?). Mihiex tieghu, mhux bhall- karozza ta&#8217; Joseph Muscat, li ahna inhallsu ghaliha u tibqa tieghu.]</strong></p>
<p>Joseph Muscat mhux jahdem?</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Le. Dak it-tip li lanqas biss jaf x&#8217;inhu x-xoghol u r-responsabilta. Bl-Ingliz nghidulu &#8216;spoiled&#8217; u &#8216;mummy&#8217;s boy.&#8217; Tip bhalu jikkrolla meta jkollu xeba problemi &#8211; jew jahrab, bhalma ghamel Sant fl-1998.]<br />
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Allura Joseph Muscat illi jahdem ukoll ma jistax jixtri 60,000E f karozzi MINN FLUSU?</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Dazgur li jista. Imma imbaghad ma jithallasx EUR7,000 fis-sena ghad-depreciation taghha, ghaliex allura giet li ahna qed inhallsu ghaliha imma se tibqa &#8216;asset&#8217; tieghu &#8211; meta s-soltu il-karozzi li juzaw dawn in-nies jibqghu tal-istat.]</strong></p>
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		By: m marks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[m marks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[60k minn butu, il mahbub taghkom austin gatt gieb jaguar mill flus tal gvern - filwaqt illi kien jghidilna illi il-poplu ghandu bzonn jibda juza karozzi izghar li huma fuel efficient

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Kemm intkom iffissati f&#039; Austin Gatt, f&#039;gieh kemm hemm. Almenu jahdem, u jahdem hafna. Trid tkun il-vera bniedum vojt u b&#039;mohh ta&#039; baby biex tahseb li l-uzu ta&#039; Jaguar huwa kumpens ghal dak l-istress u inkwiet. Turu kemm ma tafux x&#039;inhu x-xoghol u r-responsablita.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>60k minn butu, il mahbub taghkom austin gatt gieb jaguar mill flus tal gvern &#8211; filwaqt illi kien jghidilna illi il-poplu ghandu bzonn jibda juza karozzi izghar li huma fuel efficient</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Kemm intkom iffissati f&#8217; Austin Gatt, f&#8217;gieh kemm hemm. Almenu jahdem, u jahdem hafna. Trid tkun il-vera bniedum vojt u b&#8217;mohh ta&#8217; baby biex tahseb li l-uzu ta&#8217; Jaguar huwa kumpens ghal dak l-istress u inkwiet. Turu kemm ma tafux x&#8217;inhu x-xoghol u r-responsablita.]</strong></p>
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		By: Albert Ellis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert Ellis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/joseph-and-michelle-spend-eur60000-on-cars/#comment-26945&quot;&gt;maryanne&lt;/a&gt;.

Maryanne, you don&#039;t seem to get the point or you  live on another planet. Go into the streets ask people - the middle class - if they afford to buy a house, flat or whatever and a luxury car. Ask them if they are happy with these bills..because if I remember correctly this issue was one that led to Labour&#039;s downfall in 1996 (together with the Vittoriosa marina issue)....and today our people seem to be paying exaggerated bills while the oil prices have gone down drastically.

Those people with a normal wage like mine can&#039;t afford such things without being immersed in debts, so to say that under PN in the last 20 years people can afford these things easily....you are wrong.

[&lt;strong&gt;Daphne - Let me get this straight. You want to buy a house without incurring debt?]&lt;/strong&gt;

Just go make a survey of married couples and ask them how much is their debts? They have to pay thousands until they retire.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - And so it is everywhere else in the world, and Malta is not a magic place. Do you know what triggered the so-called credit crunch? Banks giving home loans to people who couldn&#039;t afford to buy a home, in the USA.]
&lt;/strong&gt;
It is quite obvious that on this site there exists no neutral arguments but only harsh criticism and stupid arguments like this one on Labour leader&#039;s life, when actually it would have been more appropriate to talk or argument on more valid arguments like jobless people, the state of our roads while our licence goes up each year, the harsh bills we are receiving and so on.

I have never found any problem with ministers buying villas, farmhouses or dream cars so I don&#039;t see the problem in Joseph Muscat and his wife spending on a car they have worked for.

[&lt;strong&gt;Daphne - The point is, they haven&#039;t really worked for it, have they? I have no problem with ministers buying cars and villas, either, because they have a positive approach to working and earning and don&#039;t encourage people in their belief that bounty falls on your lap by sitting around and doing nothing, or by working 9 to 5 Monday to Friday - unlike the Labour Party and, in particular, Joseph Muscat. He even tried to &#039;find a job&#039; for Joseph Cuschieri when he took his seat - as though a grown man of 41 can&#039;t do that for himself.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/05/joseph-and-michelle-spend-eur60000-on-cars/#comment-26945">maryanne</a>.</p>
<p>Maryanne, you don&#8217;t seem to get the point or you  live on another planet. Go into the streets ask people &#8211; the middle class &#8211; if they afford to buy a house, flat or whatever and a luxury car. Ask them if they are happy with these bills..because if I remember correctly this issue was one that led to Labour&#8217;s downfall in 1996 (together with the Vittoriosa marina issue)&#8230;.and today our people seem to be paying exaggerated bills while the oil prices have gone down drastically.</p>
<p>Those people with a normal wage like mine can&#8217;t afford such things without being immersed in debts, so to say that under PN in the last 20 years people can afford these things easily&#8230;.you are wrong.</p>
<p>[<strong>Daphne &#8211; Let me get this straight. You want to buy a house without incurring debt?]</strong></p>
<p>Just go make a survey of married couples and ask them how much is their debts? They have to pay thousands until they retire.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; And so it is everywhere else in the world, and Malta is not a magic place. Do you know what triggered the so-called credit crunch? Banks giving home loans to people who couldn&#8217;t afford to buy a home, in the USA.]<br />
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It is quite obvious that on this site there exists no neutral arguments but only harsh criticism and stupid arguments like this one on Labour leader&#8217;s life, when actually it would have been more appropriate to talk or argument on more valid arguments like jobless people, the state of our roads while our licence goes up each year, the harsh bills we are receiving and so on.</p>
<p>I have never found any problem with ministers buying villas, farmhouses or dream cars so I don&#8217;t see the problem in Joseph Muscat and his wife spending on a car they have worked for.</p>
<p>[<strong>Daphne &#8211; The point is, they haven&#8217;t really worked for it, have they? I have no problem with ministers buying cars and villas, either, because they have a positive approach to working and earning and don&#8217;t encourage people in their belief that bounty falls on your lap by sitting around and doing nothing, or by working 9 to 5 Monday to Friday &#8211; unlike the Labour Party and, in particular, Joseph Muscat. He even tried to &#8216;find a job&#8217; for Joseph Cuschieri when he took his seat &#8211; as though a grown man of 41 can&#8217;t do that for himself.]</strong></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh my, at least he didn&#039;t get a Jaguar out of taxpayers&#039; money (Austin Gatt style).]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 19:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mur gib kieku xtraw Jaguar kull wiehed din il-koppja!]]></description>
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