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		By: Busu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Busu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29707&quot;&gt;Charlie&lt;/a&gt;.

Cannot but agree with Charlie.  I am also of the opinion that Dr Gonzi shall not be the one to introduce divorce in Malta, nor shall it be the PN at all either.

Divorce is a civil right but a Christian wrong.  Malta needs and requires divorce as otherwise we shall be stuck with a bottle neck in relation to other subsequent matters regarding Family Legislation for many more years to come. This with some quite cruel circumstances including, children being born out of wedlock and post separation and who cannot but be considered bastards, this definitely hinders on there human rights. Also to be further improved and developed is the current position of family members being victims of domestic violence or some other form of abuse including sexual or moral.

The PN was founded and is run on Christian Democratic principles and both Dr Gonzi as leader as well as Dr Tonio Borg are firm believers of this.  Hence one cannot expect a u-turn in principles and introduce a civil &quot;emergency exit&quot; to a &quot;no-turning-back&quot; institution instilled by the originator of the fundamental principles to such a political party.

The only way out would be that of doing the necessary constitutional changes to the party  with respect to the founded and present political lines of thought. Hence refresh the party whilst at it and prepare for the next crucial battle, i.e. 2013 in a true and full face-lift.

Until such time, divorce is a trump card in PL&#039;s deck which even they have been hesitant to play, and this back from Alfred Sant&#039;s days although they have tested the waters on many occasions.

Let us remember that about 2000 years ago, a wise guy said, &quot;...give to Cæsar what&#039;s to Cæsar and give to God what&#039;s to God.&quot; Hence the present standing of the PN.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29707">Charlie</a>.</p>
<p>Cannot but agree with Charlie.  I am also of the opinion that Dr Gonzi shall not be the one to introduce divorce in Malta, nor shall it be the PN at all either.</p>
<p>Divorce is a civil right but a Christian wrong.  Malta needs and requires divorce as otherwise we shall be stuck with a bottle neck in relation to other subsequent matters regarding Family Legislation for many more years to come. This with some quite cruel circumstances including, children being born out of wedlock and post separation and who cannot but be considered bastards, this definitely hinders on there human rights. Also to be further improved and developed is the current position of family members being victims of domestic violence or some other form of abuse including sexual or moral.</p>
<p>The PN was founded and is run on Christian Democratic principles and both Dr Gonzi as leader as well as Dr Tonio Borg are firm believers of this.  Hence one cannot expect a u-turn in principles and introduce a civil &#8220;emergency exit&#8221; to a &#8220;no-turning-back&#8221; institution instilled by the originator of the fundamental principles to such a political party.</p>
<p>The only way out would be that of doing the necessary constitutional changes to the party  with respect to the founded and present political lines of thought. Hence refresh the party whilst at it and prepare for the next crucial battle, i.e. 2013 in a true and full face-lift.</p>
<p>Until such time, divorce is a trump card in PL&#8217;s deck which even they have been hesitant to play, and this back from Alfred Sant&#8217;s days although they have tested the waters on many occasions.</p>
<p>Let us remember that about 2000 years ago, a wise guy said, &#8220;&#8230;give to Cæsar what&#8217;s to Cæsar and give to God what&#8217;s to God.&#8221; Hence the present standing of the PN.</p>
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		By: Anna		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29739&quot;&gt;Albert Farrugia&lt;/a&gt;.

@Albert

Now why would you think so?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29739">Albert Farrugia</a>.</p>
<p>@Albert</p>
<p>Now why would you think so?</p>
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		By: Antoine Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antoine Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29721&quot;&gt;Tonio Farrugia&lt;/a&gt;.

This was perhaps another occasion when Joseph Muscat felt a driving compulsion to go eat a hamburger instead of attending to his official duties.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29721">Tonio Farrugia</a>.</p>
<p>This was perhaps another occasion when Joseph Muscat felt a driving compulsion to go eat a hamburger instead of attending to his official duties.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29752&quot;&gt;Mandy Mallia&lt;/a&gt;.

There&#039;s more to it than that. The MLP believes that it holds the moral high ground, unlike the PN, which post-1960s believes it has the best policies. And that&#039;s not quite the same thing. So admitting a mistake would be tantamount to the MLP suggesting that it should change its ideology.

Just an anecdote to illustrate my point. Around three years ago the local branch of the MLP insisting on erecting a monument to Kalcidon Agius, ex-Speaker of the House and ex-plumber, in Naxxar. And they insisted, against the local council&#039;s PN members&#039; wishes, on putting the pre-1987 &#039;coat-of-arms&#039; of the Republic of Malta on it, which they did, this being &#039;ara-noholqu-l-firda&#039; Malta. Nice. Post-1987, post-EU and post-millennium, they still think the old North Korean pala tal-bollocks logo was better.

Of course Gonzi should do some soul-searching. He should make up his mind whether to take his country forward, stick to transparency, and piss off lots of PN supporters who are expecting special favours, or to hand out favours and try to win the election the old Maltese way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29752">Mandy Mallia</a>.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s more to it than that. The MLP believes that it holds the moral high ground, unlike the PN, which post-1960s believes it has the best policies. And that&#8217;s not quite the same thing. So admitting a mistake would be tantamount to the MLP suggesting that it should change its ideology.</p>
<p>Just an anecdote to illustrate my point. Around three years ago the local branch of the MLP insisting on erecting a monument to Kalcidon Agius, ex-Speaker of the House and ex-plumber, in Naxxar. And they insisted, against the local council&#8217;s PN members&#8217; wishes, on putting the pre-1987 &#8216;coat-of-arms&#8217; of the Republic of Malta on it, which they did, this being &#8216;ara-noholqu-l-firda&#8217; Malta. Nice. Post-1987, post-EU and post-millennium, they still think the old North Korean pala tal-bollocks logo was better.</p>
<p>Of course Gonzi should do some soul-searching. He should make up his mind whether to take his country forward, stick to transparency, and piss off lots of PN supporters who are expecting special favours, or to hand out favours and try to win the election the old Maltese way.</p>
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		By: mary		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes both parties should do their own &#039;soul searching and let&#039;s leave it at that.  Daphne, I meant no disrespect to our prime minister but I feel that certain ministers or back-benchers whom the people trusted with their vote are  being of a disservice to the very same people who elected them.

[&lt;strong&gt;Daphne - I couldn&#039;t agree with you more on that.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes both parties should do their own &#8216;soul searching and let&#8217;s leave it at that.  Daphne, I meant no disrespect to our prime minister but I feel that certain ministers or back-benchers whom the people trusted with their vote are  being of a disservice to the very same people who elected them.</p>
<p>[<strong>Daphne &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more on that.]</strong></p>
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		By: Mandy Mallia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mandy Mallia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29750&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s because the innate &quot;hdura&quot; is extremely hard to eradicate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29750">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because the innate &#8220;hdura&#8221; is extremely hard to eradicate.</p>
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		By: mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29745&quot;&gt;Tonio Farrugia&lt;/a&gt;.

Imma ddahkuni!  Hadd ma jara hottobtu! You seem hooked on Toni Abela and Anglu Farrugia because they got elected. Now look at this scenario, one year ago you elected your MPs.  What has happened just one year after?  Four to six of them are happily splitting your party with their comments and actions, making  your prime minister a laughing stock.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - OUR prime minister, Mary. He&#039;s yours, too.]&lt;/strong&gt;

Aren&#039;t you failing miserably to project a serious and mature government?  Are these people still credible?  DEFINITELY NOT.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29745">Tonio Farrugia</a>.</p>
<p>Imma ddahkuni!  Hadd ma jara hottobtu! You seem hooked on Toni Abela and Anglu Farrugia because they got elected. Now look at this scenario, one year ago you elected your MPs.  What has happened just one year after?  Four to six of them are happily splitting your party with their comments and actions, making  your prime minister a laughing stock.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; OUR prime minister, Mary. He&#8217;s yours, too.]</strong></p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t you failing miserably to project a serious and mature government?  Are these people still credible?  DEFINITELY NOT.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Far be it from me to find counterarguments, but why is no one asking the MLP to do its own &quot;soul-searching&quot;? They haven&#039;t shifted an inch from their Mintoff days. They&#039;re a bit like the Chinese Communist Party. All the trappings of change and modernity on the outside, but still unchanged on the inside.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far be it from me to find counterarguments, but why is no one asking the MLP to do its own &#8220;soul-searching&#8221;? They haven&#8217;t shifted an inch from their Mintoff days. They&#8217;re a bit like the Chinese Communist Party. All the trappings of change and modernity on the outside, but still unchanged on the inside.</p>
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		By: Andrea		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29698&quot;&gt;john xuereb&lt;/a&gt;.

I can&#039;t see the coherence  between &#039;young girls having babies out of wedlock&#039; and a settled, mature homosexual pair, raising a child. And who defines the concept of morality anyway? Do adultery, domestic violence or incest in the name of the Holy Sacrament of marriage comply with a moral code? Maturity, responsibility and love are what counts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29698">john xuereb</a>.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see the coherence  between &#8216;young girls having babies out of wedlock&#8217; and a settled, mature homosexual pair, raising a child. And who defines the concept of morality anyway? Do adultery, domestic violence or incest in the name of the Holy Sacrament of marriage comply with a moral code? Maturity, responsibility and love are what counts.</p>
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		By: Ivan F. Attard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan F. Attard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29744&quot;&gt;Ivan F. Attard&lt;/a&gt;.

Wrong end of the stick ?

Agree - &quot;shy away from saying anything&quot; is another way of saying &quot;feel they cannot speak freely&quot;

Agree - parliamentary group meetings at PN HQ with PN in government are something more important than just meetings at PN HQ.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/06/the-ragtag-coalition-for-change/#comment-29744">Ivan F. Attard</a>.</p>
<p>Wrong end of the stick ?</p>
<p>Agree &#8211; &#8220;shy away from saying anything&#8221; is another way of saying &#8220;feel they cannot speak freely&#8221;</p>
<p>Agree &#8211; parliamentary group meetings at PN HQ with PN in government are something more important than just meetings at PN HQ.</p>
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