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		By: Milone		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Milone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/bazwar-lhawn-bazwar-lhemm/#comment-31358&quot;&gt;Corinne Vella&lt;/a&gt;.

No, that&#039;s where you go to buy votes from Labour party supporters, apparently.]]></description>
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<p>No, that&#8217;s where you go to buy votes from Labour party supporters, apparently.</p>
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		By: Nigel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nigel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The government owes something around Eur105,000,000, (yes, 105 million euros) to various citizens for expropriation of land and property going back some 40 years.

If Tonio Fenech and his cohorts, drag this case (the VAT return on vehicle registration, I mean), for the same duration, which is normally the case with any government handout anyway, then the gallant 18,000 will certainly end up like the charge of the Light Brigade, and government will save itself some Eur58 million, EU or no EU.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government owes something around Eur105,000,000, (yes, 105 million euros) to various citizens for expropriation of land and property going back some 40 years.</p>
<p>If Tonio Fenech and his cohorts, drag this case (the VAT return on vehicle registration, I mean), for the same duration, which is normally the case with any government handout anyway, then the gallant 18,000 will certainly end up like the charge of the Light Brigade, and government will save itself some Eur58 million, EU or no EU.</p>
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		By: PSA		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PSA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://maltastar.com/pages/ms09dart.asp?a=3158

Ricky Dalton - 17 July 2009 10:56

I am not a politician as a matter of fact i don&#039;t know sod all about politics in this country, but i can foresee a big win for Mr.Muscat in this coming election, he seems to have his brians and heart in the right place, besides i would put his character down on the same level as Presid. Obama, well liked by the people and a good sence of humour something that is very rare with some Maltese., just my humble foreign opinion. If by chance i get a negative feedback, i say read my lips if one can: FRANKLY MY DEAR I JUST DON&#039;T GIVE A DAMN: from the 1939 fantastic movie &#039;Gone with the wind&#039; with Clark Gable &#038; Vivian Leigh. G&#039;day all. Aussie Boy

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Sigh.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Ricky Dalton &#8211; 17 July 2009 10:56</p>
<p>I am not a politician as a matter of fact i don&#8217;t know sod all about politics in this country, but i can foresee a big win for Mr.Muscat in this coming election, he seems to have his brians and heart in the right place, besides i would put his character down on the same level as Presid. Obama, well liked by the people and a good sence of humour something that is very rare with some Maltese., just my humble foreign opinion. If by chance i get a negative feedback, i say read my lips if one can: FRANKLY MY DEAR I JUST DON&#8217;T GIVE A DAMN: from the 1939 fantastic movie &#8216;Gone with the wind&#8217; with Clark Gable &amp; Vivian Leigh. G&#8217;day all. Aussie Boy</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Sigh.]</strong></p>
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		By: Meerkat:)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meerkat:)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/bazwar-lhawn-bazwar-lhemm/#comment-31358&quot;&gt;Corinne Vella&lt;/a&gt;.

Good one Corinne!

Another one:

&quot;Oh and I thought that the bar was where one goes to get a grokk mal-hbieb tal-hbieb&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/bazwar-lhawn-bazwar-lhemm/#comment-31358">Corinne Vella</a>.</p>
<p>Good one Corinne!</p>
<p>Another one:</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh and I thought that the bar was where one goes to get a grokk mal-hbieb tal-hbieb&#8221;</p>
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		By: Twanny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Twanny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/bazwar-lhawn-bazwar-lhemm/#comment-31355&quot;&gt;Twanny&lt;/a&gt;.

What about the &quot;political&quot; decison by Lawrence Gonzi to pay the demoted ex-ministers and parl. secs. 18 months&#039; salary for nothing? This was absolutely unprecedented and he had absolutely no obligation to do so.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - That was wrong, but you appear to think it was acceptable. Either that, or you are under the impression that two wrongs make a right.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/bazwar-lhawn-bazwar-lhemm/#comment-31355">Twanny</a>.</p>
<p>What about the &#8220;political&#8221; decison by Lawrence Gonzi to pay the demoted ex-ministers and parl. secs. 18 months&#8217; salary for nothing? This was absolutely unprecedented and he had absolutely no obligation to do so.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; That was wrong, but you appear to think it was acceptable. Either that, or you are under the impression that two wrongs make a right.]</strong></p>
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		By: kev		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/bazwar-lhawn-bazwar-lhemm/#comment-31344&quot;&gt;kev&lt;/a&gt;.

Corinne, the gist of my comment is not categorisation, but precedence. It could be just one test case. If the Court finds in favour of the government, it would be useless to pursue the matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/bazwar-lhawn-bazwar-lhemm/#comment-31344">kev</a>.</p>
<p>Corinne, the gist of my comment is not categorisation, but precedence. It could be just one test case. If the Court finds in favour of the government, it would be useless to pursue the matter.</p>
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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/bazwar-lhawn-bazwar-lhemm/#comment-31338&quot;&gt;Meerkat:)&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s so low, they&#039;re limbo dancing.]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s so low, they&#8217;re limbo dancing.</p>
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		By: Leo Said		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leo Said]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/bazwar-lhawn-bazwar-lhemm/#comment-31350&quot;&gt;jomar&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Jomar,

All politicians play on weak minds, possibly also in your immediate surroundings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/bazwar-lhawn-bazwar-lhemm/#comment-31350">jomar</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Jomar,</p>
<p>All politicians play on weak minds, possibly also in your immediate surroundings.</p>
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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/bazwar-lhawn-bazwar-lhemm/#comment-31344&quot;&gt;kev&lt;/a&gt;.

The problems of the supposed &#039;class action&#039; case apply to categorised cases too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/bazwar-lhawn-bazwar-lhemm/#comment-31344">kev</a>.</p>
<p>The problems of the supposed &#8216;class action&#8217; case apply to categorised cases too.</p>
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		By: Twanny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Twanny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/bazwar-lhawn-bazwar-lhemm/#comment-31350&quot;&gt;jomar&lt;/a&gt;.

Wrong premise.  If the court finds against the plaintiff (the PL) it will not say &quot;the government CANNOT pay out).  It can only say &quot;the gov DOES NOT HAVE TO pay out&quot;.

So there would be nothing improper or illegal in a POLITICAL decision to reimburse the money collected.

[&lt;strong&gt;Daphne - I&#039;m not working on the basis of a premise. There would be nothing &#039;illegal&#039; but it would certainly be most improper and politically dangerous. The government can&#039;t just decide to give hand-outs to people when there is no legal or moral basis for doing so. With that attitude, what&#039;s to stop Prime Minister Muscat handing out taxpayers&#039; money to his friends just because he feels like it? I hate to say it, but with your sort of reasoning, no wonder you vote Labour. There&#039;s another point you miss: if Prime Minister Muscat has it in mind to give out the money whatever the court says, why bother taking the case to court at all? To clog up the system, cause further court delays, and waste people&#039;s time? Or maybe it was just an attention-getting stunt.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/bazwar-lhawn-bazwar-lhemm/#comment-31350">jomar</a>.</p>
<p>Wrong premise.  If the court finds against the plaintiff (the PL) it will not say &#8220;the government CANNOT pay out).  It can only say &#8220;the gov DOES NOT HAVE TO pay out&#8221;.</p>
<p>So there would be nothing improper or illegal in a POLITICAL decision to reimburse the money collected.</p>
<p>[<strong>Daphne &#8211; I&#8217;m not working on the basis of a premise. There would be nothing &#8216;illegal&#8217; but it would certainly be most improper and politically dangerous. The government can&#8217;t just decide to give hand-outs to people when there is no legal or moral basis for doing so. With that attitude, what&#8217;s to stop Prime Minister Muscat handing out taxpayers&#8217; money to his friends just because he feels like it? I hate to say it, but with your sort of reasoning, no wonder you vote Labour. There&#8217;s another point you miss: if Prime Minister Muscat has it in mind to give out the money whatever the court says, why bother taking the case to court at all? To clog up the system, cause further court delays, and waste people&#8217;s time? Or maybe it was just an attention-getting stunt.]</strong></p>
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