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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/maltas-cheap-architects-gather-round/#comment-30636</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/maltas-cheap-architects-gather-round/#comment-30635&quot;&gt;DVella&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, and as at least one &#039;perit&#039; pointed out, it was on the OPM&#039;s invitation card too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/maltas-cheap-architects-gather-round/#comment-30635">DVella</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, and as at least one &#8216;perit&#8217; pointed out, it was on the OPM&#8217;s invitation card too.</p>
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		By: DVella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DVella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes Daphne, agreed. I realise that there is no word for Perit in the English language. I myself am weary of having to fend off wisecracks when I&#039;m abroad (. . . some kind of exotic bird . . .etc) but the point I was trying to make is that Malta&#039;s professionals are not merely architects because the curriculum they follow in their tertiary education includes both architecture and civil engineering. The validity and merits of this practice are perhaps debatable when considering the overall standard of both architecture and civil engineering in this country but mister Mintoff thought otherwise at the time.

The proper full title for a &#039;warranted&#039; professional in Malta is &#039;Architect and Civil Engineer&#039; not just Architect. This is why some hackles were raised at the several references to &#039;il-Perit Piano&#039; by some poorly informed members of the press . . . and even some of our illustrious politicians.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Daphne, agreed. I realise that there is no word for Perit in the English language. I myself am weary of having to fend off wisecracks when I&#8217;m abroad (. . . some kind of exotic bird . . .etc) but the point I was trying to make is that Malta&#8217;s professionals are not merely architects because the curriculum they follow in their tertiary education includes both architecture and civil engineering. The validity and merits of this practice are perhaps debatable when considering the overall standard of both architecture and civil engineering in this country but mister Mintoff thought otherwise at the time.</p>
<p>The proper full title for a &#8216;warranted&#8217; professional in Malta is &#8216;Architect and Civil Engineer&#8217; not just Architect. This is why some hackles were raised at the several references to &#8216;il-Perit Piano&#8217; by some poorly informed members of the press . . . and even some of our illustrious politicians.</p>
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		By: Michael		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne, looks like The Times is starting the attain the standards of its several online contributors and &quot;experts&quot;. Sentence taken from today&#039;s edition - a story about the murder that happened about a mile away from where I live.

  &quot;&lt;em&gt;Mr Wallner and Ms Fenech had left Cobham and drove across the English Channel to Malta&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Now that&#039;s something. I suppose Eurostar and the Channel Ferries will soon be out of business.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - It&#039;s killing me. And then there&#039;s that lovely Maltese &#039;had left Cobham and drove&#039; rather than &#039;had left Cobham and driven&#039;]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne, looks like The Times is starting the attain the standards of its several online contributors and &#8220;experts&#8221;. Sentence taken from today&#8217;s edition &#8211; a story about the murder that happened about a mile away from where I live.</p>
<p>  &#8220;<em>Mr Wallner and Ms Fenech had left Cobham and drove across the English Channel to Malta&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s something. I suppose Eurostar and the Channel Ferries will soon be out of business.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; It&#8217;s killing me. And then there&#8217;s that lovely Maltese &#8216;had left Cobham and drove&#8217; rather than &#8216;had left Cobham and driven&#8217;]</strong></p>
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		By: john xuereb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john xuereb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Min huma n-nies li jistghu jitkellmu fuq dan is-suggett? In-nies ta&#039; klassi......in-nies tad-degrees mill-universita? Cwiec f&#039;dan il-pajjiz ghandha kemm trid, forsi jien wiehed minnhom, biss kullhadd ghandhu dritt jghid tieghu, jekk ma jogobniex nghallqu widnejjna u ma nisimghu xejn.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Min huma n-nies li jistghu jitkellmu fuq dan is-suggett? In-nies ta&#8217; klassi&#8230;&#8230;in-nies tad-degrees mill-universita? Cwiec f&#8217;dan il-pajjiz ghandha kemm trid, forsi jien wiehed minnhom, biss kullhadd ghandhu dritt jghid tieghu, jekk ma jogobniex nghallqu widnejjna u ma nisimghu xejn.</p>
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		By: Corinne Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corinne Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/maltas-cheap-architects-gather-round/#comment-30630&quot;&gt;Pat&lt;/a&gt;.

And his parents weren&#039;t married, either.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Not just that, but she got pregnant by somebody other than the man she was living with.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/maltas-cheap-architects-gather-round/#comment-30630">Pat</a>.</p>
<p>And his parents weren&#8217;t married, either.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Not just that, but she got pregnant by somebody other than the man she was living with.]</strong></p>
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		By: Mandy Mallia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mandy Mallia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/maltas-cheap-architects-gather-round/#comment-30630&quot;&gt;Pat&lt;/a&gt;.

The funniest bit is that &quot;Jesus is not happy with teenage pregnant mothers&quot; (sic).  I thought that Mary was meant to have had him at the age of sixteen.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Probably more like 12 in those days.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/maltas-cheap-architects-gather-round/#comment-30630">Pat</a>.</p>
<p>The funniest bit is that &#8220;Jesus is not happy with teenage pregnant mothers&#8221; (sic).  I thought that Mary was meant to have had him at the age of sixteen.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Probably more like 12 in those days.]</strong></p>
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		By: Pat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/maltas-cheap-architects-gather-round/#comment-30621&quot;&gt;Mandy Mallia&lt;/a&gt;.

I find it great to have such confidence in a minister they expect him to fix what God couldn&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/maltas-cheap-architects-gather-round/#comment-30621">Mandy Mallia</a>.</p>
<p>I find it great to have such confidence in a minister they expect him to fix what God couldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: DVella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DVella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually Daphne, I rather think that it was precisely NOT Malta&#039;s cheap periti (NOT architects please) that gathered around Renzo Piano last Sunday to appreciate his work and discuss his philosophy of design.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - I wasn&#039;t the one who called them cheap. I was quoting The People. Also, the word &#039;periti&#039; does not exist in the English language, so call them what they are: architects and civil engineers. The practice of referring to somebody, when speaking English, as Perit Zammit (for example) is quite ridiculous. They are not people qualified in a unique discipline, but people qualified in two disciplines. When speaking English, an architect is Mr, Miss or Mrs - unless the architect has a doctorate or holds a professorship.]
&lt;/strong&gt;
Malta&#039;s cheap periti were elsewhere slapping together crappy pastiche buildings and imitation &#039;baroque&#039; rubbish with &#039;lavur&#039; and &#039;balavostri&#039; and ornate imitation Corinthian columns for the type of people who think Barry&#039;s piece of neo-classical pastiche junk was the bees knees and the dog&#039;s bo****ks of architecture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Daphne, I rather think that it was precisely NOT Malta&#8217;s cheap periti (NOT architects please) that gathered around Renzo Piano last Sunday to appreciate his work and discuss his philosophy of design.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; I wasn&#8217;t the one who called them cheap. I was quoting The People. Also, the word &#8216;periti&#8217; does not exist in the English language, so call them what they are: architects and civil engineers. The practice of referring to somebody, when speaking English, as Perit Zammit (for example) is quite ridiculous. They are not people qualified in a unique discipline, but people qualified in two disciplines. When speaking English, an architect is Mr, Miss or Mrs &#8211; unless the architect has a doctorate or holds a professorship.]<br />
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Malta&#8217;s cheap periti were elsewhere slapping together crappy pastiche buildings and imitation &#8216;baroque&#8217; rubbish with &#8216;lavur&#8217; and &#8216;balavostri&#8217; and ornate imitation Corinthian columns for the type of people who think Barry&#8217;s piece of neo-classical pastiche junk was the bees knees and the dog&#8217;s bo****ks of architecture.</p>
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		By: marika mifsud		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marika mifsud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So many of The People think that all those in authority are idiots and that THEY have the solution to all our problems.
They tell Tonio Fenech how to solve the deficit, they tell Dalli how to easily solve the waiting list, they tell football coaches which players to choose etc etc

Now the latest topic is telling  Piano what he should do and that Maltesel architects seem to be fools too. Out of all the comments the two I prefer are -

1. the one by somebody who doubts that Piano knows how to construct  a  building on stilts`;

2. the one by somebody who suggested that we take the roof from the old dock in Cospicua and stick it on top of the theatre.

Daphne - if you want to test your patience try and listen to the answers given in radio and television competitions. It will give you an excellent chance of gauging the mental process of The People.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many of The People think that all those in authority are idiots and that THEY have the solution to all our problems.<br />
They tell Tonio Fenech how to solve the deficit, they tell Dalli how to easily solve the waiting list, they tell football coaches which players to choose etc etc</p>
<p>Now the latest topic is telling  Piano what he should do and that Maltesel architects seem to be fools too. Out of all the comments the two I prefer are &#8211;</p>
<p>1. the one by somebody who doubts that Piano knows how to construct  a  building on stilts`;</p>
<p>2. the one by somebody who suggested that we take the roof from the old dock in Cospicua and stick it on top of the theatre.</p>
<p>Daphne &#8211; if you want to test your patience try and listen to the answers given in radio and television competitions. It will give you an excellent chance of gauging the mental process of The People.</p>
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		By: John II		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John II]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/maltas-cheap-architects-gather-round/#comment-30626&quot;&gt;Leonard&lt;/a&gt;.

To be fair, most of the &quot;happy-clappy&quot; crowd prefer Jesus to God - not just in Malta.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/07/maltas-cheap-architects-gather-round/#comment-30626">Leonard</a>.</p>
<p>To be fair, most of the &#8220;happy-clappy&#8221; crowd prefer Jesus to God &#8211; not just in Malta.</p>
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