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		By: Andrea		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/11/thinking-out-of-the-seat-of-their-pants/#comment-34506&quot;&gt;Willu&lt;/a&gt;.

As a German stonemason I believe in &#039;The Ultimate Cosmic Oneness&#039;. Hahaha, as if! I left the hocus-pocus to the boys.

&quot;Membership and religion
Freemasonry explicitly and openly states that it is neither a religion nor a substitute for one. &quot;There is no separate Masonic God&quot;, nor a separate proper name for a deity in any branch of Freemasonry.[28][60]

Regular Freemasonry requires that its candidates believe in a Supreme Being, but the interpretation of the term is subject to the conscience of the candidate. This means that men from a wide range of faiths, including (but not limited to) Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism, etc. can and have become Masons.

Since the early 19th century, in the irregular Continental European tradition (meaning irregular to those Grand Lodges in amity with the United Grand Lodge of England), a very broad interpretation has been given to a (non-dogmatic) Supreme Being; in the tradition of Baruch Spinoza and Johann Wolfgang von Goethe – or views of The Ultimate Cosmic Oneness – along with Western atheistic idealism and agnosticism.

Freemasonry in Scandinavia, known as the Swedish Rite, on the other hand, accepts only Christians. In addition, some appendant bodies (or portions thereof) have religious requirements. These have no bearing, however, on what occurs at the lodge level.&quot;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/11/thinking-out-of-the-seat-of-their-pants/#comment-34506">Willu</a>.</p>
<p>As a German stonemason I believe in &#8216;The Ultimate Cosmic Oneness&#8217;. Hahaha, as if! I left the hocus-pocus to the boys.</p>
<p>&#8220;Membership and religion<br />
Freemasonry explicitly and openly states that it is neither a religion nor a substitute for one. &#8220;There is no separate Masonic God&#8221;, nor a separate proper name for a deity in any branch of Freemasonry.[28][60]</p>
<p>Regular Freemasonry requires that its candidates believe in a Supreme Being, but the interpretation of the term is subject to the conscience of the candidate. This means that men from a wide range of faiths, including (but not limited to) Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism, etc. can and have become Masons.</p>
<p>Since the early 19th century, in the irregular Continental European tradition (meaning irregular to those Grand Lodges in amity with the United Grand Lodge of England), a very broad interpretation has been given to a (non-dogmatic) Supreme Being; in the tradition of Baruch Spinoza and Johann Wolfgang von Goethe – or views of The Ultimate Cosmic Oneness – along with Western atheistic idealism and agnosticism.</p>
<p>Freemasonry in Scandinavia, known as the Swedish Rite, on the other hand, accepts only Christians. In addition, some appendant bodies (or portions thereof) have religious requirements. These have no bearing, however, on what occurs at the lodge level.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry</a></p>
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		By: Pat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/11/thinking-out-of-the-seat-of-their-pants/#comment-34506&quot;&gt;Willu&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not so sure whether you are correct about that. Freemasons can belong to a variety of religions if I&#039;m not mistaken.

At least we have some very clear instructions how to spot them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeHnjwSMyIQ&#038;fmt=18

A vital view for anyone with concerns over Freemasons influence on society.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/11/thinking-out-of-the-seat-of-their-pants/#comment-34506">Willu</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure whether you are correct about that. Freemasons can belong to a variety of religions if I&#8217;m not mistaken.</p>
<p>At least we have some very clear instructions how to spot them:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeHnjwSMyIQ&#038;fmt=18" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeHnjwSMyIQ&#038;fmt=18</a></p>
<p>A vital view for anyone with concerns over Freemasons influence on society.</p>
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		By: Willu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Willu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually to be admitted as a Freemason you have to believe in god. In Malta I often see them referred to as atheists. This is totally incorrect, believe it or not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually to be admitted as a Freemason you have to believe in god. In Malta I often see them referred to as atheists. This is totally incorrect, believe it or not.</p>
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		By: Pat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/11/thinking-out-of-the-seat-of-their-pants/#comment-34504&quot;&gt;Tal-Muzew&lt;/a&gt;.

How am I wrong?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/11/thinking-out-of-the-seat-of-their-pants/#comment-34504">Tal-Muzew</a>.</p>
<p>How am I wrong?</p>
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		By: Tal-Muzew		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tal-Muzew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/11/thinking-out-of-the-seat-of-their-pants/#comment-34495&quot;&gt;Pat&lt;/a&gt;.

How wrong you are

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20091113/local/voting-for-pn-president-ends

Imma ahna tal-pn mhux bhal dawk il-boloh tal-lp]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/11/thinking-out-of-the-seat-of-their-pants/#comment-34495">Pat</a>.</p>
<p>How wrong you are</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20091113/local/voting-for-pn-president-ends" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20091113/local/voting-for-pn-president-ends</a></p>
<p>Imma ahna tal-pn mhux bhal dawk il-boloh tal-lp</p>
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		By: everhopeful		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[everhopeful]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/11/thinking-out-of-the-seat-of-their-pants/#comment-34486&quot;&gt;Herbs&lt;/a&gt;.

The nation&#039;s finances are like a giant ponzi scheme. New borrowing goes to pay the old borrowing until we reach the stage where no new borrowing is coming in to replace the old. Then we are bankrupt. The thing is that no-one knows when the new borrowing will stop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/11/thinking-out-of-the-seat-of-their-pants/#comment-34486">Herbs</a>.</p>
<p>The nation&#8217;s finances are like a giant ponzi scheme. New borrowing goes to pay the old borrowing until we reach the stage where no new borrowing is coming in to replace the old. Then we are bankrupt. The thing is that no-one knows when the new borrowing will stop.</p>
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		By: Ronnie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronnie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But isn&#039;t that the same sort of reasoning which drives a Liberal to be involved with the PN which is probably the most socially conservative democratically elected party.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But isn&#8217;t that the same sort of reasoning which drives a Liberal to be involved with the PN which is probably the most socially conservative democratically elected party.</p>
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		By: Chris Ripard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Ripard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/11/thinking-out-of-the-seat-of-their-pants/#comment-34489&quot;&gt;Tim Ripard&lt;/a&gt;.

As we know, it&#039;s happened before.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2009/11/thinking-out-of-the-seat-of-their-pants/#comment-34489">Tim Ripard</a>.</p>
<p>As we know, it&#8217;s happened before.</p>
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		By: Giordano Bruno		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Giordano Bruno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the survey question was about someone with &quot;a religion different than theirs&quot;, then I&#039;m sure most respondents took it to mean someone who was Muslim, not atheist.  People don&#039;t care if a PM is atheist as long as he&#039;s not Muslim.  It&#039;s  Islam that scares not atheism.  Atheists are not seen as a threat; Muslims are.  Atheists are not seen as wanting to impose their ways; Muslims are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the survey question was about someone with &#8220;a religion different than theirs&#8221;, then I&#8217;m sure most respondents took it to mean someone who was Muslim, not atheist.  People don&#8217;t care if a PM is atheist as long as he&#8217;s not Muslim.  It&#8217;s  Islam that scares not atheism.  Atheists are not seen as a threat; Muslims are.  Atheists are not seen as wanting to impose their ways; Muslims are.</p>
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		By: Joseph Micallef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph Micallef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These survey results actually show how surveys capture mind-frames beyond actual behaviour. In our case, it demonstrates that many people make choices superficially.

I am not surprised that the findings contradict the fact that Alfred Sant was chosen as Labour leader back in 1992 despite not being a Roman Catholic. After all, party delegates also overlooked his poor management C.V. and what it should have told them he would do to the MLP.

The fact that he became prime minister is a consequence of that choice and isn’t related to merit or otherwise. It was when he was fired as prime minister that people came to terms with their superficial analysis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These survey results actually show how surveys capture mind-frames beyond actual behaviour. In our case, it demonstrates that many people make choices superficially.</p>
<p>I am not surprised that the findings contradict the fact that Alfred Sant was chosen as Labour leader back in 1992 despite not being a Roman Catholic. After all, party delegates also overlooked his poor management C.V. and what it should have told them he would do to the MLP.</p>
<p>The fact that he became prime minister is a consequence of that choice and isn’t related to merit or otherwise. It was when he was fired as prime minister that people came to terms with their superficial analysis.</p>
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