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		By: David Buttigieg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Buttigieg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-use-hindsight-to-write-a-20-year-plan/#comment-41227&quot;&gt;Joseph A Borg&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Oh for crying out loud: Wikipedia again&quot;

WikiEffingPedia is nothing but people&#039;s (often wrong) opinions.  If you like you can have a page saying Frans Sammut is the most brilliant author this planet of ours has ever seen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-use-hindsight-to-write-a-20-year-plan/#comment-41227">Joseph A Borg</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh for crying out loud: Wikipedia again&#8221;</p>
<p>WikiEffingPedia is nothing but people&#8217;s (often wrong) opinions.  If you like you can have a page saying Frans Sammut is the most brilliant author this planet of ours has ever seen.</p>
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		By: Dominic		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dominic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The EU is good and bad for Malta.  A bad aspect in these times is the inability to devalue the currency if needed and set interest rates at a level suitable to the Maltese economy rather than those of Germany and France.  The Iceland situation was uncontrolled, but at least the cheap currency corrects the unsustainable spending and provides a road to recovery through exports.

The Maltese are still spending on their credit cards on imported flat screen TVs at the same time that the Euro controls the price, and makes uncompetitive, the main exports like tourism provision.  The Euro enables Malta to borrow at a lower rate than it otherwise could and this is good, so long as politicians have the stomach to dampen deficit spending and property booms that result.

The good aspects are European disciplines and standards.  Hopefully things like the National Bank saga will fall before the EU right to a fair trial in a reasonable time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The EU is good and bad for Malta.  A bad aspect in these times is the inability to devalue the currency if needed and set interest rates at a level suitable to the Maltese economy rather than those of Germany and France.  The Iceland situation was uncontrolled, but at least the cheap currency corrects the unsustainable spending and provides a road to recovery through exports.</p>
<p>The Maltese are still spending on their credit cards on imported flat screen TVs at the same time that the Euro controls the price, and makes uncompetitive, the main exports like tourism provision.  The Euro enables Malta to borrow at a lower rate than it otherwise could and this is good, so long as politicians have the stomach to dampen deficit spending and property booms that result.</p>
<p>The good aspects are European disciplines and standards.  Hopefully things like the National Bank saga will fall before the EU right to a fair trial in a reasonable time.</p>
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		By: Fanon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fanon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-use-hindsight-to-write-a-20-year-plan/#comment-41212&quot;&gt;Chris Ripard&lt;/a&gt;.

Correlation does not imply causality Mr Ripard. Even a teenager knows that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-use-hindsight-to-write-a-20-year-plan/#comment-41212">Chris Ripard</a>.</p>
<p>Correlation does not imply causality Mr Ripard. Even a teenager knows that.</p>
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		By: Joseph A Borg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph A Borg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;&lt;em&gt;Iceland, to an even greater extent than Malta, is dependent on imports for most of what its people use, wear, eat, drink and drive.&quot;
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I beg to differ: Iceland has more arable land (1,000km2) for a similar population size, had a big fish industry that was an income generator that they guarded fiercely even in the face of British warships. They invested in geo-termal power so almost independent in the energy sector.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Iceland

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Oh for crying out loud: Wikipedia again, qisna tfal tal-iskola. Iceland has lots of arable land, yes, but do you know why the place is called Iceland? That&#039;s right. It&#039;s under ice for most of the year. And for six months of the year, daylight is merely fleeting, so two of the essential requirements for growing things - however much arable land there is - are just not present. Before fruit and vegetables began to be imported relatively cheaply from other parts of Europe - and I&#039;m talking recent years here - Iceland&#039;s population suffered the consequences of vitamin deficiency caused by lack of sunlight and lack of fresh fruit and vegetables in their diet. I have a friend who grew up in Iceland in the 1970s. She tells me that she and most of the other children at her school had bruising caused by vitamin deficiency and they all saw it as normal - the way I and my friends saw other forms of deprivation here in Malta as normal, I would imagine.]&lt;/strong&gt;

If Malta&#039;s economy failed like Iceland&#039;s we&#039;d be eating each other or be annexed by a neighbor. This makes Muscat&#039;s original statement way more ludicrous.

Their current plight is relative: they had a $10k better GDP and will come out of this still with a better GDP than us, unless the &#039;gubbermint&#039; comes out with a magic plan.

My biggest problem with magic plans is very subtle:

If Labour wins with a plan that sets fixed targets, then they will have to spend a lot of money we don&#039;t have to achieve their goals. That will end up grinding the economy down come next downturn and we&#039;ll end up with fantastic quality of life indexes but a crashed economy. Needless to say we are not self-sufficient enough to get out of the pickle.

The only restrainer I can hope for is the ECB raining down on the government to curb overt spending. From my limited understanding, the first Fenech Adami government was going this way and Sant reversed this (in my eyes  he did something good you see?), then the next PN government went back to more responsible spending. I don&#039;t know where we&#039;d be if there wasn&#039;t a change in policy in the first years of this century.

Joseph has to do the opposite of Gonzi and emphasize the team. He&#039;s too fresh to do otherwise. I hope he shows us a good, honest and capable team come next election otherwise I&#039;ll have no choice … yet again …]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<em>Iceland, to an even greater extent than Malta, is dependent on imports for most of what its people use, wear, eat, drink and drive.&#8221;<br />
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I beg to differ: Iceland has more arable land (1,000km2) for a similar population size, had a big fish industry that was an income generator that they guarded fiercely even in the face of British warships. They invested in geo-termal power so almost independent in the energy sector.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Iceland" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Iceland</a></p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Oh for crying out loud: Wikipedia again, qisna tfal tal-iskola. Iceland has lots of arable land, yes, but do you know why the place is called Iceland? That&#8217;s right. It&#8217;s under ice for most of the year. And for six months of the year, daylight is merely fleeting, so two of the essential requirements for growing things &#8211; however much arable land there is &#8211; are just not present. Before fruit and vegetables began to be imported relatively cheaply from other parts of Europe &#8211; and I&#8217;m talking recent years here &#8211; Iceland&#8217;s population suffered the consequences of vitamin deficiency caused by lack of sunlight and lack of fresh fruit and vegetables in their diet. I have a friend who grew up in Iceland in the 1970s. She tells me that she and most of the other children at her school had bruising caused by vitamin deficiency and they all saw it as normal &#8211; the way I and my friends saw other forms of deprivation here in Malta as normal, I would imagine.]</strong></p>
<p>If Malta&#8217;s economy failed like Iceland&#8217;s we&#8217;d be eating each other or be annexed by a neighbor. This makes Muscat&#8217;s original statement way more ludicrous.</p>
<p>Their current plight is relative: they had a $10k better GDP and will come out of this still with a better GDP than us, unless the &#8216;gubbermint&#8217; comes out with a magic plan.</p>
<p>My biggest problem with magic plans is very subtle:</p>
<p>If Labour wins with a plan that sets fixed targets, then they will have to spend a lot of money we don&#8217;t have to achieve their goals. That will end up grinding the economy down come next downturn and we&#8217;ll end up with fantastic quality of life indexes but a crashed economy. Needless to say we are not self-sufficient enough to get out of the pickle.</p>
<p>The only restrainer I can hope for is the ECB raining down on the government to curb overt spending. From my limited understanding, the first Fenech Adami government was going this way and Sant reversed this (in my eyes  he did something good you see?), then the next PN government went back to more responsible spending. I don&#8217;t know where we&#8217;d be if there wasn&#8217;t a change in policy in the first years of this century.</p>
<p>Joseph has to do the opposite of Gonzi and emphasize the team. He&#8217;s too fresh to do otherwise. I hope he shows us a good, honest and capable team come next election otherwise I&#8217;ll have no choice … yet again …</p>
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		By: Hmmm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hmmm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 08:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-use-hindsight-to-write-a-20-year-plan/#comment-41224&quot;&gt;Rover&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-use-hindsight-to-write-a-20-year-plan/#comment-41224">Rover</a>.</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
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		By: Mark C		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 06:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-use-hindsight-to-write-a-20-year-plan/#comment-41212&quot;&gt;Chris Ripard&lt;/a&gt;.

... one can also mention USA capitalism failed miserably and threw the whole world into recession. The usual arguments trying to associate 2 different arguments. So Hitler was a catholic therefore all catholic are Hitlers? Idiot!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-use-hindsight-to-write-a-20-year-plan/#comment-41212">Chris Ripard</a>.</p>
<p>&#8230; one can also mention USA capitalism failed miserably and threw the whole world into recession. The usual arguments trying to associate 2 different arguments. So Hitler was a catholic therefore all catholic are Hitlers? Idiot!</p>
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		By: Rover		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back to the 20 year plan:

Mintoff wanted integration with Britain.
KMB ......erm.........nothing.
Alfred Sant.....Switzerland of the Mediterranean.
Joseph Muscat....Iceland....with hindsight EU is fine by me.

JM must be another in a list of superior thinkers born out of Labour. Is it possible there is nobody suitable for the job among that lot?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the 20 year plan:</p>
<p>Mintoff wanted integration with Britain.<br />
KMB &#8230;&#8230;erm&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;nothing.<br />
Alfred Sant&#8230;..Switzerland of the Mediterranean.<br />
Joseph Muscat&#8230;.Iceland&#8230;.with hindsight EU is fine by me.</p>
<p>JM must be another in a list of superior thinkers born out of Labour. Is it possible there is nobody suitable for the job among that lot?</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let us keep the argument as clear and simple as possible:
1) Muscat is a twit.
2) We&#039;re better off in the EU.
These facts stand regardless of Iceland&#039;s status.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us keep the argument as clear and simple as possible:<br />
1) Muscat is a twit.<br />
2) We&#8217;re better off in the EU.<br />
These facts stand regardless of Iceland&#8217;s status.</p>
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		By: Dominic Fenech		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dominic Fenech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-use-hindsight-to-write-a-20-year-plan/#comment-41211&quot;&gt;Dominic Fenech&lt;/a&gt;.

IF Iceland were and IF it had, yes.  But you could be in the Eurozone and NOT abide by its regulations, and you better not think that belonging to the Eurozone will be your safety net if you don&#039;t, say by running high deficits and letting the national debt spiral out of control.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-use-hindsight-to-write-a-20-year-plan/#comment-41211">Dominic Fenech</a>.</p>
<p>IF Iceland were and IF it had, yes.  But you could be in the Eurozone and NOT abide by its regulations, and you better not think that belonging to the Eurozone will be your safety net if you don&#8217;t, say by running high deficits and letting the national debt spiral out of control.</p>
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		By: Gahan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-use-hindsight-to-write-a-20-year-plan/#comment-41211&quot;&gt;Dominic Fenech&lt;/a&gt;.

Let&#039;s stick to the subject. If Iceland were in the Eurozone and abided to the Eurozone regulations would it have avoided the crisis?

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - It would not necessarily have avoided its banking crisis, but it would certainly have avoided the mega-inflation and scarcity of consumables that have made life a misery for people in Iceland. When your currency is worth almost nothing and you have to import everything, the result is near-empty shop shelves and the sort of prices that are unaffordable, even for ordinary food items.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/02/you-can%e2%80%99t-use-hindsight-to-write-a-20-year-plan/#comment-41211">Dominic Fenech</a>.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s stick to the subject. If Iceland were in the Eurozone and abided to the Eurozone regulations would it have avoided the crisis?</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; It would not necessarily have avoided its banking crisis, but it would certainly have avoided the mega-inflation and scarcity of consumables that have made life a misery for people in Iceland. When your currency is worth almost nothing and you have to import everything, the result is near-empty shop shelves and the sort of prices that are unaffordable, even for ordinary food items.]</strong></p>
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