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	Comments on: Blast from the past: Joseph Muscat goes to China with AST	</title>
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	<description>Daphne Caruana Galizia is a journalist working in Malta.</description>
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		By: Il-Cop		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Riya, issa flok dawn in-nies li semmejt hawn fuq lahqu tal-Maltastar.com. Jigdbu fuq in-nies.


This is nothing but Labour&#039;s new, modern and progressive way of doing frame-ups. Everything will change when they get in power though. Power, the only thing they crave 24/7. I remember the shootings, the frame ups and the searches. Been there and done it. Had myself a very close shave with a frame up, and a murder one no less. Those same people are still there, in Labour&#039;s camp, starring at us with a big smile on their faces waiting to run the country. They are not even capable of running a piss up in a brewery never mind the country. But they cannot care less as long as they get the &#039;POWER&#039; and hand cushy jobs to the coconuts who cannot even spell. These people never change.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riya, issa flok dawn in-nies li semmejt hawn fuq lahqu tal-Maltastar.com. Jigdbu fuq in-nies.</p>
<p>This is nothing but Labour&#8217;s new, modern and progressive way of doing frame-ups. Everything will change when they get in power though. Power, the only thing they crave 24/7. I remember the shootings, the frame ups and the searches. Been there and done it. Had myself a very close shave with a frame up, and a murder one no less. Those same people are still there, in Labour&#8217;s camp, starring at us with a big smile on their faces waiting to run the country. They are not even capable of running a piss up in a brewery never mind the country. But they cannot care less as long as they get the &#8216;POWER&#8217; and hand cushy jobs to the coconuts who cannot even spell. These people never change.</p>
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		By: Riya		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Riya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;others got away with it because they were smart&#039;
 Din fiha x&#039;tifhem Sur Buttigieg!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;others got away with it because they were smart&#8217;<br />
 Din fiha x&#8217;tifhem Sur Buttigieg!</p>
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		By: Riya		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Riya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Grazzi Charles J Buttigieg talli irreferejt ghalija bhala  &#039;old chap&#039; ghax veru hekk hu. Lilek ghammirajtek my friend, ghax int genwin. Jien ma&#039; nafx min hareg l-ordni bies l-SMU jisparaw ir-Rabat imma jien rajthom b&#039;ghajnejja ghax jien xoft hafna mill-vjolenza Laburista u nista nitkellem hafna.

Jien ta&#039; l-anqas kont f&#039; seba&#039; okkazjonijiet fejn Laburisti jew il-Pulizija sparaw ghal fuqna. Darba anke kont qed inwahhal il-posters ta&#039; meta miet Dr. George Borg Olivier u saqu ghal fuqi u ghal fuq shabi bil-karozza u tawna xeba ukoll. Jien ma&#039; tantx jinzilli Demarco pero f&#039;hajti ma&#039; naghti tort lill-hadd. La lilu la lil Fenech Adami u lill-hadd. Kaspitina ma kienx l-unika bniedem li meta ra l-affarijiet gejjin kontra mar izieghel b&#039;Demarco.


Anke Joe Psaila u Anglu Farrugia hekk ghamlu ghax Anglu ried bilfors jilhaq kummissarju. U anke jien rajtu fejn l-istamperija meta rebhu in-Nazzjonalist fl-1987. Anglu bniedem hekk dejjem irid ikun ta&#039; quddiem.

U nahseb anke Joseph Muscat ikollu problema bih fil-partit. Il-fatt li kien wiehed mill-prosekuturi fil-kaz ta&#039; Lawrence Pullicino kien jaghmel sens ghax zgur li xi hadd kien jghid li kien sar frame-up. Anke Joe Psaila ha promozzjoni fi zmien Demarco u dan ressaq lill-Pietru Pawl Busuttil fuq il-qtil ta&#039; Raymond Caruana li wara irrizulta li kien frame-up. Eddie u Demarco ma kellomx triq ohra hlief jistennew lill-xi hadd mill-pulizija ghal xi raguni jibda jikxef xi haga milli kienet issir id-Depot tal-Pulizija.

Meta issemmi pulizija jew id-depot dak iz-zmien kien tal-wahx. Meta bdew isiru il-frame-ups il-poplu kien qisu ha xokk ghalkemm kien kwazi darha li nies anke jinqatlu mill-pulizija jew gewwa id-depot stess bhal Wifred Cardona, Nardu Debono u forsi ohrajn ukoll, barra is-swat krudili li kien isir.

Fil-fatt Gejtu Pace li kien ha l-proklama fil-kaz ta&#039; Pullicino kien qal bil-gurament li Kaspitina kien responsabbli minn skwadra tas-swat flimkien ma Joseph Mangion (PC 710)  u xi erbgha ohra. Jigifieri Kaspetina kellu min xiex jibza u wara kollox familja ghandu. Kien hu ukoll li spara l-gas tad-dmuh ghal gox-Xaghra tal-Floriana u kien jiftahar li sfratta l-meetings.

Vera ghammirajtek li tghid il-verita ghax fil-kaz tar-Rabat KMB dak iz-zmien prim ministru kien qal li dawk li sparaw kienu tal-gakketta l-blu biex iwahhlu fil-pulizija.

Ghara f&#039; xiex konna, habib! Lill-habib taghna taz-Zejtun nghidlu ghadkom tbaghtu bil-vjolenza sal-llum. U ma ninsa qatt l-istorja li ghamlu iz-Zwieten Laburisti meta Eddie kien mitlub joqghod xhud ta&#039; tieg.

Dak inhar il-Laburisti sparaw ghall fuq kullhadd minn fuq il-bjut u tefghu 13 il-pulizija l-isptar. Dak pajjiz hux! Il-Prim Ministru u kap ta&#039; partit li rebah il-gvern b&#039;maggorranza assoluta bin- &#039;no go areas&#039;.

Trid tghix hekk, Sur Buttigieg? Dan biex ma&#039; nkomplix insemmi l-istejjer tal-ispetturi David Stubbings. Noel Schembri, Is-Supratendent Carmelo Bonello, u dak il-bravu l-ispettur Joe Pico li spicca interdettat u jekk minix sejjer zball issa qieghed is-segretarju tal-PL gewwa Hal Ghaxaq. Fejn jinbidlu dawn in-nies, Sur Buttigieg?

Tistghu tibdlu kapijiet u leaders imma l-istess tibqghu. Issa flok dawn in-nies li semmejt hawn fuq lahqu tal-Maltastar.com. Jigdbu fuq in-nies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grazzi Charles J Buttigieg talli irreferejt ghalija bhala  &#8216;old chap&#8217; ghax veru hekk hu. Lilek ghammirajtek my friend, ghax int genwin. Jien ma&#8217; nafx min hareg l-ordni bies l-SMU jisparaw ir-Rabat imma jien rajthom b&#8217;ghajnejja ghax jien xoft hafna mill-vjolenza Laburista u nista nitkellem hafna.</p>
<p>Jien ta&#8217; l-anqas kont f&#8217; seba&#8217; okkazjonijiet fejn Laburisti jew il-Pulizija sparaw ghal fuqna. Darba anke kont qed inwahhal il-posters ta&#8217; meta miet Dr. George Borg Olivier u saqu ghal fuqi u ghal fuq shabi bil-karozza u tawna xeba ukoll. Jien ma&#8217; tantx jinzilli Demarco pero f&#8217;hajti ma&#8217; naghti tort lill-hadd. La lilu la lil Fenech Adami u lill-hadd. Kaspitina ma kienx l-unika bniedem li meta ra l-affarijiet gejjin kontra mar izieghel b&#8217;Demarco.</p>
<p>Anke Joe Psaila u Anglu Farrugia hekk ghamlu ghax Anglu ried bilfors jilhaq kummissarju. U anke jien rajtu fejn l-istamperija meta rebhu in-Nazzjonalist fl-1987. Anglu bniedem hekk dejjem irid ikun ta&#8217; quddiem.</p>
<p>U nahseb anke Joseph Muscat ikollu problema bih fil-partit. Il-fatt li kien wiehed mill-prosekuturi fil-kaz ta&#8217; Lawrence Pullicino kien jaghmel sens ghax zgur li xi hadd kien jghid li kien sar frame-up. Anke Joe Psaila ha promozzjoni fi zmien Demarco u dan ressaq lill-Pietru Pawl Busuttil fuq il-qtil ta&#8217; Raymond Caruana li wara irrizulta li kien frame-up. Eddie u Demarco ma kellomx triq ohra hlief jistennew lill-xi hadd mill-pulizija ghal xi raguni jibda jikxef xi haga milli kienet issir id-Depot tal-Pulizija.</p>
<p>Meta issemmi pulizija jew id-depot dak iz-zmien kien tal-wahx. Meta bdew isiru il-frame-ups il-poplu kien qisu ha xokk ghalkemm kien kwazi darha li nies anke jinqatlu mill-pulizija jew gewwa id-depot stess bhal Wifred Cardona, Nardu Debono u forsi ohrajn ukoll, barra is-swat krudili li kien isir.</p>
<p>Fil-fatt Gejtu Pace li kien ha l-proklama fil-kaz ta&#8217; Pullicino kien qal bil-gurament li Kaspitina kien responsabbli minn skwadra tas-swat flimkien ma Joseph Mangion (PC 710)  u xi erbgha ohra. Jigifieri Kaspetina kellu min xiex jibza u wara kollox familja ghandu. Kien hu ukoll li spara l-gas tad-dmuh ghal gox-Xaghra tal-Floriana u kien jiftahar li sfratta l-meetings.</p>
<p>Vera ghammirajtek li tghid il-verita ghax fil-kaz tar-Rabat KMB dak iz-zmien prim ministru kien qal li dawk li sparaw kienu tal-gakketta l-blu biex iwahhlu fil-pulizija.</p>
<p>Ghara f&#8217; xiex konna, habib! Lill-habib taghna taz-Zejtun nghidlu ghadkom tbaghtu bil-vjolenza sal-llum. U ma ninsa qatt l-istorja li ghamlu iz-Zwieten Laburisti meta Eddie kien mitlub joqghod xhud ta&#8217; tieg.</p>
<p>Dak inhar il-Laburisti sparaw ghall fuq kullhadd minn fuq il-bjut u tefghu 13 il-pulizija l-isptar. Dak pajjiz hux! Il-Prim Ministru u kap ta&#8217; partit li rebah il-gvern b&#8217;maggorranza assoluta bin- &#8216;no go areas&#8217;.</p>
<p>Trid tghix hekk, Sur Buttigieg? Dan biex ma&#8217; nkomplix insemmi l-istejjer tal-ispetturi David Stubbings. Noel Schembri, Is-Supratendent Carmelo Bonello, u dak il-bravu l-ispettur Joe Pico li spicca interdettat u jekk minix sejjer zball issa qieghed is-segretarju tal-PL gewwa Hal Ghaxaq. Fejn jinbidlu dawn in-nies, Sur Buttigieg?</p>
<p>Tistghu tibdlu kapijiet u leaders imma l-istess tibqghu. Issa flok dawn in-nies li semmejt hawn fuq lahqu tal-Maltastar.com. Jigdbu fuq in-nies.</p>
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		By: Charles J Buttigieg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles J Buttigieg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne, as you said I am only a rank outsider and since it appears that you are a well informed insider of the PN it would be silly of me to challenge your attestation.

However after having said that, I still think that Guido De Marco’s Machiavellian manoeuvrings, ably assisted by Louis Galea, were the catalysts, together with EFA, to transform GBO’s poor excuse for a political party to a PN to be reckoned with. Look at the situation in the PN today, exit EFA, De Marco and Louis Galea and enter a fragmented party.

You would not admit this but the splintered Gonzipn of today looks very much like the former Alfred Sant’s disgruntled MLP.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - It wasn&#039;t Machiavellian manoeuvrings which transformed the Nationalist Party into the party that transformed Malta, Charles - still less Guido De Marco&#039;s Machiavellian manoeuvrings, which led him nowhere but into a corner in his own party until he was finally edged out once and for all. No, it wasn&#039;t that. It was brains, policies and a determined vision. The trouble with you is that you persist in believing it was all about form and no substance, when the reality is that there was plenty of substance and actually very little form. This mistaken and persistent belief about the reasons for the Nationalist Party&#039;s success is what keeps Labour on the wrong track of believing that they don&#039;t need policies or people if they&#039;ve got the PR. Fat chance of that. ]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne, as you said I am only a rank outsider and since it appears that you are a well informed insider of the PN it would be silly of me to challenge your attestation.</p>
<p>However after having said that, I still think that Guido De Marco’s Machiavellian manoeuvrings, ably assisted by Louis Galea, were the catalysts, together with EFA, to transform GBO’s poor excuse for a political party to a PN to be reckoned with. Look at the situation in the PN today, exit EFA, De Marco and Louis Galea and enter a fragmented party.</p>
<p>You would not admit this but the splintered Gonzipn of today looks very much like the former Alfred Sant’s disgruntled MLP.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; It wasn&#8217;t Machiavellian manoeuvrings which transformed the Nationalist Party into the party that transformed Malta, Charles &#8211; still less Guido De Marco&#8217;s Machiavellian manoeuvrings, which led him nowhere but into a corner in his own party until he was finally edged out once and for all. No, it wasn&#8217;t that. It was brains, policies and a determined vision. The trouble with you is that you persist in believing it was all about form and no substance, when the reality is that there was plenty of substance and actually very little form. This mistaken and persistent belief about the reasons for the Nationalist Party&#8217;s success is what keeps Labour on the wrong track of believing that they don&#8217;t need policies or people if they&#8217;ve got the PR. Fat chance of that. ]</strong></p>
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		By: La Redoute		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[La Redoute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/04/blast-from-the-past-joseph-muscat-goes-to-china-with-ast/#comment-49456&quot;&gt;Charles J Buttigieg&lt;/a&gt;.

They weren&#039;t covert if he was bombastic about them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/04/blast-from-the-past-joseph-muscat-goes-to-china-with-ast/#comment-49456">Charles J Buttigieg</a>.</p>
<p>They weren&#8217;t covert if he was bombastic about them.</p>
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		By: La Redoute		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[La Redoute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/04/blast-from-the-past-joseph-muscat-goes-to-china-with-ast/#comment-49446&quot;&gt;La Redoute&lt;/a&gt;.

bUTTIGIEG - as he would put it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/04/blast-from-the-past-joseph-muscat-goes-to-china-with-ast/#comment-49446">La Redoute</a>.</p>
<p>bUTTIGIEG &#8211; as he would put it.</p>
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		By: Charles J Buttigieg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles J Buttigieg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne you sound like Tonio Fenech blaming Boiler number 7. Kaspitina was just one of the fifth columnists, a scheme engineered by Miss Pepsi, EFA and his PN were the main beneficiaries. Kaspitina sold Labour down the river and got caught because he was too bombastic with his covert operations, others got away with it because they were smart.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Miss Pepsi did not engineer schemes for the PN. He engineered them for himself. He never got over the fact that Fenech Adami beat him to the party leadership, and spent the next 25 years undermining him with a public smile on his face. It was a precursor to the John Dalli/Lawrence Gonzi scenario, but Fenech Adami had nowhere to kick De Marco until the president&#039;s chair became vacant. De Marco&#039;s links with criminals and the police had nothing to do with his status as deputy leader of the Nationalist Party and everything to do with his profession as a leading criminal lawyer, something which people like you tend to forget and overlook. If you were not a rank outsider, you would know that Guido De Marco was an entity unto himself within the Nationalist Party, fenced off and treated with suspicion. Fortunately, his son could not be more different in every respect, which is why he is genuinely liked and trusted.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne you sound like Tonio Fenech blaming Boiler number 7. Kaspitina was just one of the fifth columnists, a scheme engineered by Miss Pepsi, EFA and his PN were the main beneficiaries. Kaspitina sold Labour down the river and got caught because he was too bombastic with his covert operations, others got away with it because they were smart.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Miss Pepsi did not engineer schemes for the PN. He engineered them for himself. He never got over the fact that Fenech Adami beat him to the party leadership, and spent the next 25 years undermining him with a public smile on his face. It was a precursor to the John Dalli/Lawrence Gonzi scenario, but Fenech Adami had nowhere to kick De Marco until the president&#8217;s chair became vacant. De Marco&#8217;s links with criminals and the police had nothing to do with his status as deputy leader of the Nationalist Party and everything to do with his profession as a leading criminal lawyer, something which people like you tend to forget and overlook. If you were not a rank outsider, you would know that Guido De Marco was an entity unto himself within the Nationalist Party, fenced off and treated with suspicion. Fortunately, his son could not be more different in every respect, which is why he is genuinely liked and trusted.]</strong></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Charles J Buttigieg
The big difference between me and you is that you made a whole lot of fuss because you were left doing nothing and getting normal pay and I lived those years in Zejtun being insulted for just passing through the main square. You have no idea my friend, I would not wish on you one hundredth of what me and my family went through.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Charles J Buttigieg<br />
The big difference between me and you is that you made a whole lot of fuss because you were left doing nothing and getting normal pay and I lived those years in Zejtun being insulted for just passing through the main square. You have no idea my friend, I would not wish on you one hundredth of what me and my family went through.</p>
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		By: TROY		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TROY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/04/blast-from-the-past-joseph-muscat-goes-to-china-with-ast/#comment-49451&quot;&gt;Charles J Buttigieg&lt;/a&gt;.

Spot on, Daphne. And kaspetina wasn&#039;t the only tyrant promoted by Guido - scratch my back and I&#039;ll scratch yours. A Nationalist Benedict Arnold.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/04/blast-from-the-past-joseph-muscat-goes-to-china-with-ast/#comment-49451">Charles J Buttigieg</a>.</p>
<p>Spot on, Daphne. And kaspetina wasn&#8217;t the only tyrant promoted by Guido &#8211; scratch my back and I&#8217;ll scratch yours. A Nationalist Benedict Arnold.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TROY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/04/blast-from-the-past-joseph-muscat-goes-to-china-with-ast/#comment-49440&quot;&gt;Charles J Buttigieg&lt;/a&gt;.

Charles, you are truly a blast from the past.]]></description>
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<p>Charles, you are truly a blast from the past.</p>
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