You are incredibly rude and clearly uneducated for publicly bringing up intimate details about the parents’ personal lives, which is absolutely none of yours, or anyone else’s, business!

You should be utterly ashamed to call yourself a “journalist” because you’re nothing but pompous and disgustingly biased. I have never read the words of anyone more ignorant.

“spirits [the ghostly kind, not the Stolichnaya one] ”

It is so obvious that he used it to drink, what does he take us for? If you want to disinfect with alcohol you use Everclear or any 100% proof alcohol. Vodka is used to disinfect when there isn’t an alternative.

A doctor cannot discharge a baby if he is not deemed well to be discharged. Even if the the parents want to discharge the baby at request. After all, what guarantee did the doctors have that David and Marissa were really going to a private hospital?. They could have just taken him home. It is the doctor’s responsibility to protect the baby.

I ask myself plenty of things. But I have had to learn to not overestimate people’s rationality and intelligence.

For example, I ask myself who calls their baby, Pea? Who refuses medical treatment for their newborn? Who is such a nut to think that natural treatments work in spite of overwhelming scientific evidence?

Questions and mysteries abound.

For those who bother to read the BBC, Baby P(ea) or anything that sounds similar will always be associated with a story of horror and abuse that an innocent child had to go through.

You still don’t understand me, i know marissa and ellul personally, you are basically saying that marissa is under the influence by ellul, to the extent that she can’t make her own decisions. Listen i’m not going to go on their story; firstly because it would be unfair in discussing this on a blog, secondly my argument doesnt need to extend to that level since it’s personal.

However stating that i believe you had many problems growing up, and having this patronizing tone towards me doesnt help our argument, ive lived in malta, vienna and now i live in the UK doing my BA’s, where i spend the whole day constantly trying to fight for my right to study, (student protests on the 10,11,10) , what im trying to point out daphne, maybe the reasons and actions of mr ellul seem somewhat unconventional, but thats normal within a democratic society, and that influence can be people, or the expansion of globalisation, etc, (i’m sorry couldn’t think of anything more appropriate)

Just because you don’t approve of their actions, being comparative with your own lifestyle, does not make you a conventional person, and the right to be able to judge as a higher authority. Just because you don’t understand it doesn’t give you the right to basically report on something that could well damage their future lives within malta. I hardly can imagine that you’d enjoy it if something like that was reported on you.

[Daphne – Michael, you miss the point that they are the ones who went to the media, who used the media for the EXPRESS PURPOSE of drawing attention to their situation. Had they not said anything, nobody would have noticed and nobody would have bothered. Hospital staff are bound over not to speak. You may know them personally, but that does not mean you have the insight to assess their character or behaviour, or the experience-induced cynicism with which to regard the behaviour of an out-of-work man of 42 who fathers a child with a girl of 19 and then spends his days trying to cause trouble on the internet. And quite frankly, Michael, instead of spending your days fighting for your right to study, you’d be better off learning how to punctuate and use capital letters, because it’s an essential requirement for a bachelor’s degree, I believe. I understand that they’re your friends, and I can see where you’re coming from, so I don’t expect you to share my point of view. And I think you should be wary of anyone my age, like David Ellul, who hangs around with people your age as though he’s one of you. It’s weird and creepy, and it means that he’s incapable of forming appropriate relationships with people his own age. I know exactly how old you are, Michael, because I remember you as a baby. You’re even younger than my youngest.]

Kev,
Illusion is the first of all pleasures – Oscar Wilde.

That might be the case that i connect to the ellul family since you basically mean that they acted not as adults but prematurely. However i can understand you, and that it was a different normative value, back in the day. However this is Malta today, and our generaion has been influenced way heavier by our right to act then you have done, we’re in the EU , and if we at times feel uncomfortable we should express it, not be denounced, are we living in a catholic theocracy or what?

[Daphne – Michael, David Ellul is not your generation but mine: he is 42 and I am 46. Marissa Bose has not been influenced by being in the EU but by Ellul, because she is 19 and he is 42. As for your generation being more ready to stand up for your rights, I hardly think so.Unlike my generation, you have never had to face any true test. Would that the only ‘right’ I had to stand up for at 20 was the right to have my boyfriend sit on a hospital chair near my bed through the night.]

Worse than the husband WANTING to go home because he’s exhausted, is his mother coming to see her baby’s baby and telling her son to go home to rest because he MUST be exhausted …

Sounds familiar?

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