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		By: ta'sapienza		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ta'sapienza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 08:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/exactly-who-do-karmenu-vella-and-johnny-dalli-think-they%e2%80%99re-fooling/#comment-70021&quot;&gt;eros&lt;/a&gt;.

I remember those days only too well.

How anybody could even consider voting for these tossers is mind-boggling.

Progressivi, my arse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/exactly-who-do-karmenu-vella-and-johnny-dalli-think-they%e2%80%99re-fooling/#comment-70021">eros</a>.</p>
<p>I remember those days only too well.</p>
<p>How anybody could even consider voting for these tossers is mind-boggling.</p>
<p>Progressivi, my arse.</p>
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		By: Min Weber		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Min Weber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 21:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Look at what Mr Saviour Balzan wrote about Karmenu Vella:

http://archive.maltatoday.com.mt/2002/11/10/sav.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at what Mr Saviour Balzan wrote about Karmenu Vella:</p>
<p><a href="http://archive.maltatoday.com.mt/2002/11/10/sav.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://archive.maltatoday.com.mt/2002/11/10/sav.html</a></p>
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		By: red nose		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[red nose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has the new Labour line-up thought yet of preparing rooms at St.Vincent de Paule?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has the new Labour line-up thought yet of preparing rooms at St.Vincent de Paule?</p>
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		By: Min Weber		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Min Weber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 20:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/exactly-who-do-karmenu-vella-and-johnny-dalli-think-they%e2%80%99re-fooling/#comment-70027&quot;&gt;Min Weber&lt;/a&gt;.

The wikipedia entry on Toni Abela is extremely chaotic. (No surprise there.)

In that incredible chaos there is a beacon of even more intractable chaos:

&quot;He currently holds the greatest political comeback within a party in Maltese political history, being expelled from a party and later becoming deputy leader of the same party within 20 years.&quot;

(There is also written he was President of the Labour Party from 1980 to 1989. How can that be when Sant was President from &#039;84 to &#039;88? Were there two Presidents?!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/exactly-who-do-karmenu-vella-and-johnny-dalli-think-they%e2%80%99re-fooling/#comment-70027">Min Weber</a>.</p>
<p>The wikipedia entry on Toni Abela is extremely chaotic. (No surprise there.)</p>
<p>In that incredible chaos there is a beacon of even more intractable chaos:</p>
<p>&#8220;He currently holds the greatest political comeback within a party in Maltese political history, being expelled from a party and later becoming deputy leader of the same party within 20 years.&#8221;</p>
<p>(There is also written he was President of the Labour Party from 1980 to 1989. How can that be when Sant was President from &#8217;84 to &#8217;88? Were there two Presidents?!)</p>
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		By: Min Weber		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Min Weber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 20:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/exactly-who-do-karmenu-vella-and-johnny-dalli-think-they%e2%80%99re-fooling/#comment-70022&quot;&gt;Mark Vella&lt;/a&gt;.

Are you sure Toni Abela was party president in 1983? I think he was party president after Alfred Sant, that is 1987 or 88, and then resigned (alongside Wenzu Mintoff) in the early 90s.

In 1983 somebody else was President of the Labour Party. Dennis Sammut perhaps?

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - No, Alfred Sant was president of the Labour Party back then. I know because he was married to my husband&#039;s first cousin at the time, and when we married in 1985 we had to, against our wishes given the horror of the times, invite the president of the Labour Party by default. Fortunately, he wife came alone.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/exactly-who-do-karmenu-vella-and-johnny-dalli-think-they%e2%80%99re-fooling/#comment-70022">Mark Vella</a>.</p>
<p>Are you sure Toni Abela was party president in 1983? I think he was party president after Alfred Sant, that is 1987 or 88, and then resigned (alongside Wenzu Mintoff) in the early 90s.</p>
<p>In 1983 somebody else was President of the Labour Party. Dennis Sammut perhaps?</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; No, Alfred Sant was president of the Labour Party back then. I know because he was married to my husband&#8217;s first cousin at the time, and when we married in 1985 we had to, against our wishes given the horror of the times, invite the president of the Labour Party by default. Fortunately, he wife came alone.]</strong></p>
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		By: ciccio2011		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio2011]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 18:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/exactly-who-do-karmenu-vella-and-johnny-dalli-think-they%e2%80%99re-fooling/#comment-70015&quot;&gt;Rover&lt;/a&gt;.

La Redoute, Rover&#039;s was only a rhetorical answer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/exactly-who-do-karmenu-vella-and-johnny-dalli-think-they%e2%80%99re-fooling/#comment-70015">Rover</a>.</p>
<p>La Redoute, Rover&#8217;s was only a rhetorical answer.</p>
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		By: Reluctant Voter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reluctant Voter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 13:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/exactly-who-do-karmenu-vella-and-johnny-dalli-think-they%e2%80%99re-fooling/#comment-69996&quot;&gt;Maria&lt;/a&gt;.

@snoopy

It&#039;s not as unbelievable as it sounds. Joseph Muscat promised a &#039;new&#039; party implying that the future will not necessarily reflect the past.

 Given the performance of the present administration, I felt that he deserved a chance - he couldn&#039;t have done much worse than this lot.

It&#039;s only lately that the likes of Joe Grima and the old guard reared up their head and appear to at least want to be dictating PL policy henceforth. This is a new development and will need to be considered in the light of their past.

 Let&#039;s see where the two parties are heading in the next couple of years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/exactly-who-do-karmenu-vella-and-johnny-dalli-think-they%e2%80%99re-fooling/#comment-69996">Maria</a>.</p>
<p>@snoopy</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not as unbelievable as it sounds. Joseph Muscat promised a &#8216;new&#8217; party implying that the future will not necessarily reflect the past.</p>
<p> Given the performance of the present administration, I felt that he deserved a chance &#8211; he couldn&#8217;t have done much worse than this lot.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only lately that the likes of Joe Grima and the old guard reared up their head and appear to at least want to be dictating PL policy henceforth. This is a new development and will need to be considered in the light of their past.</p>
<p> Let&#8217;s see where the two parties are heading in the next couple of years.</p>
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		By: red nose		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[red nose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 12:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/exactly-who-do-karmenu-vella-and-johnny-dalli-think-they%e2%80%99re-fooling/#comment-69995&quot;&gt;mark v&lt;/a&gt;.

We have their confirmation -- they call those black years, &quot;the glorious past&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/exactly-who-do-karmenu-vella-and-johnny-dalli-think-they%e2%80%99re-fooling/#comment-69995">mark v</a>.</p>
<p>We have their confirmation &#8212; they call those black years, &#8220;the glorious past&#8221;</p>
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		By: snoopy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[snoopy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 00:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/exactly-who-do-karmenu-vella-and-johnny-dalli-think-they%e2%80%99re-fooling/#comment-69996&quot;&gt;Maria&lt;/a&gt;.

@Reluctant Voter

The past is a mirror of the future.

You have lost hope but then are ready to take the biggest gamble of your (and your children&#039;s) life by &quot;hoping&quot; that  &quot;despite its appearance, the PL might still be able to deliver this time&quot;

This is akin to that woman who has been beaten up by her partner but accepts to get married to the same person, hoping that he will change!

Unbelievable!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/exactly-who-do-karmenu-vella-and-johnny-dalli-think-they%e2%80%99re-fooling/#comment-69996">Maria</a>.</p>
<p>@Reluctant Voter</p>
<p>The past is a mirror of the future.</p>
<p>You have lost hope but then are ready to take the biggest gamble of your (and your children&#8217;s) life by &#8220;hoping&#8221; that  &#8220;despite its appearance, the PL might still be able to deliver this time&#8221;</p>
<p>This is akin to that woman who has been beaten up by her partner but accepts to get married to the same person, hoping that he will change!</p>
<p>Unbelievable!</p>
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		By: Mark Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 23:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What you say is so true that even Toni Abela himself did not object to the facts as initially presented by Lou (see clip on Di-Ve / time - 45mins). At no point did he attempt to clear Karmenu Vella&#039;s name but instead went on the counter-attack by talking about David Agius et al.

It was only after the intermission and the phone calls that Toni changed his stance and even then, you could easily see his discomfort since I&#039;m sure he knows that there&#039;s more to the story than a simple court case about the violation of mooring restrictions (time - 58mins).

Remember that Toni Abela, apart from being a lawyer, was also the party president in 1983, when this case came to light.

As an aside, Karmenu Vella seems to be in the habit of making disparaging comments when it comes to the privatisation of public /parastatal entities by the current incumbent. Wasn&#039;t this also the strategy of the Alfred Sant government, of which Karmenu Vella was a cabinet minister?  In case his memory does not serve him well, here&#039;s an excerpt from an interview with Alfred Sant (http://www.alfredsant.org/pages/dassingle.asp?id=239) -

&quot;When Labour came to government in 1996, there were no plans at all by the previous administration, to privatise the then Telemalta corporation. We initiated that from scratch, in the same way that we liberalized, if that is the word, the gaming industry where there had been a monopoly.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you say is so true that even Toni Abela himself did not object to the facts as initially presented by Lou (see clip on Di-Ve / time &#8211; 45mins). At no point did he attempt to clear Karmenu Vella&#8217;s name but instead went on the counter-attack by talking about David Agius et al.</p>
<p>It was only after the intermission and the phone calls that Toni changed his stance and even then, you could easily see his discomfort since I&#8217;m sure he knows that there&#8217;s more to the story than a simple court case about the violation of mooring restrictions (time &#8211; 58mins).</p>
<p>Remember that Toni Abela, apart from being a lawyer, was also the party president in 1983, when this case came to light.</p>
<p>As an aside, Karmenu Vella seems to be in the habit of making disparaging comments when it comes to the privatisation of public /parastatal entities by the current incumbent. Wasn&#8217;t this also the strategy of the Alfred Sant government, of which Karmenu Vella was a cabinet minister?  In case his memory does not serve him well, here&#8217;s an excerpt from an interview with Alfred Sant (<a href="http://www.alfredsant.org/pages/dassingle.asp?id=239" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.alfredsant.org/pages/dassingle.asp?id=239</a>) &#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;When Labour came to government in 1996, there were no plans at all by the previous administration, to privatise the then Telemalta corporation. We initiated that from scratch, in the same way that we liberalized, if that is the word, the gaming industry where there had been a monopoly.&#8221;</p>
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