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	Comments on: Not so much Hitler in the bunker as Jim Jones in Jonestown	</title>
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	<description>Daphne Caruana Galizia is a journalist working in Malta.</description>
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		By: Edward Clemmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Clemmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For those who may be interested in examining the parallel between Jim Jones of Jonestown and Gaddafi regarding the Libyan People, I would recomend two sources.  There is the authoritative archive: www.jonestown.sdsu.edu

Also there is the Natonal Public Radio documentary involving actual tapes from Jonestown, edited and produced as a 2 hour radio program: Father Cares: The Last of Jonestown.  It may be found at: www.npr.org/programs/specials/jonestown.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who may be interested in examining the parallel between Jim Jones of Jonestown and Gaddafi regarding the Libyan People, I would recomend two sources.  There is the authoritative archive: <a href="http://www.jonestown.sdsu.edu" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.jonestown.sdsu.edu</a></p>
<p>Also there is the Natonal Public Radio documentary involving actual tapes from Jonestown, edited and produced as a 2 hour radio program: Father Cares: The Last of Jonestown.  It may be found at: <a href="http://www.npr.org/programs/specials/jonestown.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.npr.org/programs/specials/jonestown.html</a></p>
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		By: mark v		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mark v]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.</p>
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		By: john		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The whacko prepares to meet his waco.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whacko prepares to meet his waco.</p>
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		By: Pepe`		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pepe`]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/not-so-much-hitler-in-the-bunker-as-jim-jones-in-jonestown/#comment-72822&quot;&gt;El Topo&lt;/a&gt;.

Those are the flags of all the countries that licked his butt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/not-so-much-hitler-in-the-bunker-as-jim-jones-in-jonestown/#comment-72822">El Topo</a>.</p>
<p>Those are the flags of all the countries that licked his butt.</p>
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		By: cat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/not-so-much-hitler-in-the-bunker-as-jim-jones-in-jonestown/#comment-72822&quot;&gt;El Topo&lt;/a&gt;.

X&#039;ghamel daqshekk specjali f&#039;hajtu biex ghandu dawk ir-&quot;ribbons of merit&quot; kollha?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/not-so-much-hitler-in-the-bunker-as-jim-jones-in-jonestown/#comment-72822">El Topo</a>.</p>
<p>X&#8217;ghamel daqshekk specjali f&#8217;hajtu biex ghandu dawk ir-&#8220;ribbons of merit&#8221; kollha?</p>
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		By: TROY		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TROY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This monster knows that his days are numbered and like you, Daphne, I have this feeling that he&#039;ll take a lot of Libyans down with him.

The only thing that could stop this mad man is a military intervention by the west.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This monster knows that his days are numbered and like you, Daphne, I have this feeling that he&#8217;ll take a lot of Libyans down with him.</p>
<p>The only thing that could stop this mad man is a military intervention by the west.</p>
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		By: gaddafi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gaddafi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/not-so-much-hitler-in-the-bunker-as-jim-jones-in-jonestown/#comment-72823&quot;&gt;El Topo&lt;/a&gt;.

Dan isbah: muzika u lirika ta Alfred Sant u Raymond Agius
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc4yI20W1Ag&#038;feature=related]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/not-so-much-hitler-in-the-bunker-as-jim-jones-in-jonestown/#comment-72823">El Topo</a>.</p>
<p>Dan isbah: muzika u lirika ta Alfred Sant u Raymond Agius<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc4yI20W1Ag&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc4yI20W1Ag&#038;feature=related</a></p>
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		By: Edward Clemmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Clemmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The parallel comparison of Gaddaffi with Jim Jones seems entirely correct with regard to his type of psychosis and his ultimately destructive course.  But I am still amazed that fear or greed should still enthrall Gaddafi&#039;s supporters.  The world as they know it is about to end for all of them.

There also were defectors and survivors from Jonestown, those who had the good luck or courage to act.

In the case of Gaddafi&#039;s Libya, once the psychological liberation began with the people&#039;s sense of their own empowerment, and their hope for ultimate victory became real in its evidence and human sacrifice, against the slaughterous rage of their jailor, their course towards liberation and freedom was set in motion.

Eventually, after Gaddafi is gone, there will be plenty of time for post-hoc psychological analysis.  The disturbing part, along with the horrors and suffering of the Libyan people, is the fact that Gaddafi had his supporters, or even admirers, from outside Libya.

There seems not to have been the moral equivalent of a U.S. Congressman Leo Ryan from California, as in the Jonestown case, to pursue the cause of justice and freedom on behalf of the Libyan people.

In the aftermath, once Libya has been freed from its tyrant and the system of coercion he created (and we also have allowed for 42 years), the western world will have a large moral debt of reparation for its sins against the Libyan people.

Malta has its own historical legacy in this regard, along with Gaddafi&#039;s long-standing blackmail of the western world over Libya&#039;s oil.

Where in this long history have there been the voices and actions of moral courage raised against the tyrant?  There have been legitimate reasons to fear the beast, if not for ourselves, for the potential destruction Gaddafi is still able to inflict upon those around him.

But the world he controls is shrinking fast.

At the very least for now, the world and its individuals must show solidarity with and for the whole of Libya, for those who have freed themselves already, and for those who await their liberation in Tripoli, which is the center of the end to come.

For our moral support is part of the positive equation that will bring an end to the conflict, once Gaddafi is dead (most likely) or brought to justice.

The final conflict and the suffering and human cost ahead are still so very worrying.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The parallel comparison of Gaddaffi with Jim Jones seems entirely correct with regard to his type of psychosis and his ultimately destructive course.  But I am still amazed that fear or greed should still enthrall Gaddafi&#8217;s supporters.  The world as they know it is about to end for all of them.</p>
<p>There also were defectors and survivors from Jonestown, those who had the good luck or courage to act.</p>
<p>In the case of Gaddafi&#8217;s Libya, once the psychological liberation began with the people&#8217;s sense of their own empowerment, and their hope for ultimate victory became real in its evidence and human sacrifice, against the slaughterous rage of their jailor, their course towards liberation and freedom was set in motion.</p>
<p>Eventually, after Gaddafi is gone, there will be plenty of time for post-hoc psychological analysis.  The disturbing part, along with the horrors and suffering of the Libyan people, is the fact that Gaddafi had his supporters, or even admirers, from outside Libya.</p>
<p>There seems not to have been the moral equivalent of a U.S. Congressman Leo Ryan from California, as in the Jonestown case, to pursue the cause of justice and freedom on behalf of the Libyan people.</p>
<p>In the aftermath, once Libya has been freed from its tyrant and the system of coercion he created (and we also have allowed for 42 years), the western world will have a large moral debt of reparation for its sins against the Libyan people.</p>
<p>Malta has its own historical legacy in this regard, along with Gaddafi&#8217;s long-standing blackmail of the western world over Libya&#8217;s oil.</p>
<p>Where in this long history have there been the voices and actions of moral courage raised against the tyrant?  There have been legitimate reasons to fear the beast, if not for ourselves, for the potential destruction Gaddafi is still able to inflict upon those around him.</p>
<p>But the world he controls is shrinking fast.</p>
<p>At the very least for now, the world and its individuals must show solidarity with and for the whole of Libya, for those who have freed themselves already, and for those who await their liberation in Tripoli, which is the center of the end to come.</p>
<p>For our moral support is part of the positive equation that will bring an end to the conflict, once Gaddafi is dead (most likely) or brought to justice.</p>
<p>The final conflict and the suffering and human cost ahead are still so very worrying.</p>
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		By: Carmelo Aquilina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carmelo Aquilina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 06:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/not-so-much-hitler-in-the-bunker-as-jim-jones-in-jonestown/#comment-72821&quot;&gt;dery&lt;/a&gt;.

# Dery, Show us your evidence  I am a psychiatrist myself and there is not one shred of evidence that Gaddafi is mad or a drug user (two different things - but you&#039;d talking out of your hat aren&#039;t you ?).

No-one who is mentally ill can hang on to power for 42 years, play off the Europeans like he did.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - No, he&#039;s just a psychopath. But you must admit the current scenario has qualities of Nero and Tiberius about it.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/not-so-much-hitler-in-the-bunker-as-jim-jones-in-jonestown/#comment-72821">dery</a>.</p>
<p># Dery, Show us your evidence  I am a psychiatrist myself and there is not one shred of evidence that Gaddafi is mad or a drug user (two different things &#8211; but you&#8217;d talking out of your hat aren&#8217;t you ?).</p>
<p>No-one who is mentally ill can hang on to power for 42 years, play off the Europeans like he did.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; No, he&#8217;s just a psychopath. But you must admit the current scenario has qualities of Nero and Tiberius about it.]</strong></p>
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		By: Herbie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Herbie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 06:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whilst Rome was burning Nero was playing his harp]]></description>
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