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		By: Heru Nugroho		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heru Nugroho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Few days left for Malta being the best within the EU member states. The people voted and it is the will of the people of Malta who trusted themselves into the unknown. 

What is next? No more waiting list in Mater Dei. No more crying over free medicines. No more big bills to pay for electricity. 

No more waiting for the bus to reach the final exams at tal-Qroqq. 

There is something wrong. The Maltese people are not clever enough to preserve what they really achieved. But it&#039;s a fever when evil dominates the human brain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few days left for Malta being the best within the EU member states. The people voted and it is the will of the people of Malta who trusted themselves into the unknown. </p>
<p>What is next? No more waiting list in Mater Dei. No more crying over free medicines. No more big bills to pay for electricity. </p>
<p>No more waiting for the bus to reach the final exams at tal-Qroqq. </p>
<p>There is something wrong. The Maltese people are not clever enough to preserve what they really achieved. But it&#8217;s a fever when evil dominates the human brain.</p>
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		By: Philip Hili		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Hili]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mur ara x&#039;jitqalleb go qabru l-Eccelenza Tieghu Sir Anthony Mamo meta jisma&#039; b&#039;dawn il-buzullotti.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mur ara x&#8217;jitqalleb go qabru l-Eccelenza Tieghu Sir Anthony Mamo meta jisma&#8217; b&#8217;dawn il-buzullotti.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/pajjiz-tal-valuri-whoring-ourselves-to-gaddafi/#comment-72241&quot;&gt;ciccio2011&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes Ciccio, if the &quot;ancestors&quot; were deceased. But the guilty party in our Gaddafi buttlicking is made up of the following, all alive and most still in politics:

Dominic Mintoff, KMB, Sceberras Trigona, Karmenu Vella, Joe Grima, George Vella, Lino Spiteri... need I go on?

Gaddafi&#039;s Gieh ir-Repubblika still stands, and George Abela will have some explaining to do. I suppose we&#039;ll just sweep it under the carpet, as we did with Ceaucescu&#039;s medal. Heqq ghax issa anzjan/ghax jiehu ghalih/ghax Malta zghira/ghax ghandna bzonn iz-zejt/ ghax hbieb ma&#039; kullhadd......

And some IMBECILE suggested setting up a committee to look into the possibility of discussing that Gieh ir-Repubblika. By the time the committee, obviously made up of the usual fat jowled Dottor Bladiblas and Justice Tiddlidees, makes up its mind and takes a vote on the matter, it&#039;ll be 2050 and (hopefully) Malta would have disappeared by then.

There&#039;s a part of me that&#039;s praying Gaddafi has one last nuclear warhead stashed away somewhere and that he&#039;ll use it to erase Malta from the maps in one final gesture. It would serve us right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/pajjiz-tal-valuri-whoring-ourselves-to-gaddafi/#comment-72241">ciccio2011</a>.</p>
<p>Yes Ciccio, if the &#8220;ancestors&#8221; were deceased. But the guilty party in our Gaddafi buttlicking is made up of the following, all alive and most still in politics:</p>
<p>Dominic Mintoff, KMB, Sceberras Trigona, Karmenu Vella, Joe Grima, George Vella, Lino Spiteri&#8230; need I go on?</p>
<p>Gaddafi&#8217;s Gieh ir-Repubblika still stands, and George Abela will have some explaining to do. I suppose we&#8217;ll just sweep it under the carpet, as we did with Ceaucescu&#8217;s medal. Heqq ghax issa anzjan/ghax jiehu ghalih/ghax Malta zghira/ghax ghandna bzonn iz-zejt/ ghax hbieb ma&#8217; kullhadd&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>And some IMBECILE suggested setting up a committee to look into the possibility of discussing that Gieh ir-Repubblika. By the time the committee, obviously made up of the usual fat jowled Dottor Bladiblas and Justice Tiddlidees, makes up its mind and takes a vote on the matter, it&#8217;ll be 2050 and (hopefully) Malta would have disappeared by then.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a part of me that&#8217;s praying Gaddafi has one last nuclear warhead stashed away somewhere and that he&#8217;ll use it to erase Malta from the maps in one final gesture. It would serve us right.</p>
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		By: La Redoute		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[La Redoute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/pajjiz-tal-valuri-whoring-ourselves-to-gaddafi/#comment-72244&quot;&gt;ciccio2011&lt;/a&gt;.

No, he doesn&#039;t. Apparently, neither does the BBC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/pajjiz-tal-valuri-whoring-ourselves-to-gaddafi/#comment-72244">ciccio2011</a>.</p>
<p>No, he doesn&#8217;t. Apparently, neither does the BBC.</p>
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		By: pippo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[bus driver
u kieku jien lanqas l-ajruplani ma ntieh lura jekk jirnexxilu jibqa fil-poter]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bus driver<br />
u kieku jien lanqas l-ajruplani ma ntieh lura jekk jirnexxilu jibqa fil-poter</p>
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		By: ciccio2011		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/pajjiz-tal-valuri-whoring-ourselves-to-gaddafi/#comment-72241&quot;&gt;ciccio2011&lt;/a&gt;.

Let me clarify.  Mine is a personal opinion.  There are others who may disagree with the school of thought that I describe.

But there is, I believe, one important international case where a State has refused to make a formal apology for the acts of predecessors.

This was the case with John Howard&#039;s Liberal government of Australia.  John Howard always insisted that his government will not make an apology to the indigenous people of Australia for the hardships caused to them by successive governments.  Eventually, when Kevin Rudd succeeded John Howard, he made a formal apology on behalf of the government.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/pajjiz-tal-valuri-whoring-ourselves-to-gaddafi/#comment-72241">ciccio2011</a>.</p>
<p>Let me clarify.  Mine is a personal opinion.  There are others who may disagree with the school of thought that I describe.</p>
<p>But there is, I believe, one important international case where a State has refused to make a formal apology for the acts of predecessors.</p>
<p>This was the case with John Howard&#8217;s Liberal government of Australia.  John Howard always insisted that his government will not make an apology to the indigenous people of Australia for the hardships caused to them by successive governments.  Eventually, when Kevin Rudd succeeded John Howard, he made a formal apology on behalf of the government.</p>
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		By: ciccio2011		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio2011]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/pajjiz-tal-valuri-whoring-ourselves-to-gaddafi/#comment-72236&quot;&gt;A Grech&lt;/a&gt;.

But doesn&#039;t Keith know that the granting of political asylum is unrelated to political and commercial ties, but that it is regulated by international conventions?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/pajjiz-tal-valuri-whoring-ourselves-to-gaddafi/#comment-72236">A Grech</a>.</p>
<p>But doesn&#8217;t Keith know that the granting of political asylum is unrelated to political and commercial ties, but that it is regulated by international conventions?</p>
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		By: ciccio2011		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio2011]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/pajjiz-tal-valuri-whoring-ourselves-to-gaddafi/#comment-72232&quot;&gt;Maria&lt;/a&gt;.

OK, I would expect that if he is not stripped off that decoration, then, all those holding a similar decoration should put it in an envelope, address it to the Palace, and have it posted with registered mail and return receipt (pink card).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/pajjiz-tal-valuri-whoring-ourselves-to-gaddafi/#comment-72232">Maria</a>.</p>
<p>OK, I would expect that if he is not stripped off that decoration, then, all those holding a similar decoration should put it in an envelope, address it to the Palace, and have it posted with registered mail and return receipt (pink card).</p>
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		By: ciccio2011		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio2011]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/pajjiz-tal-valuri-whoring-ourselves-to-gaddafi/#comment-72228&quot;&gt;Bus Driver&lt;/a&gt;.

My thoughts exactly.  Actually, the article says &quot;...in view of Malta’s strong political and commercial ties with Libya, he says.&quot;

Did he mean &quot;strong political and commercial ties with Gaddafi&quot; instead?

Why, exactly, is it that we should have strong political ties with Libya? Is that supposed to mean that we will subject Libyan persons to political retaliation in their country?

I despair when I see basic fundamental principles turned upside down in my Malta.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/pajjiz-tal-valuri-whoring-ourselves-to-gaddafi/#comment-72228">Bus Driver</a>.</p>
<p>My thoughts exactly.  Actually, the article says &#8220;&#8230;in view of Malta’s strong political and commercial ties with Libya, he says.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did he mean &#8220;strong political and commercial ties with Gaddafi&#8221; instead?</p>
<p>Why, exactly, is it that we should have strong political ties with Libya? Is that supposed to mean that we will subject Libyan persons to political retaliation in their country?</p>
<p>I despair when I see basic fundamental principles turned upside down in my Malta.</p>
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		By: ciccio2011		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio2011]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/pajjiz-tal-valuri-whoring-ourselves-to-gaddafi/#comment-72224&quot;&gt;red nose&lt;/a&gt;.

There is one school of political thought which argues that one should not feel ashamed, or apologise, for the mistakes made by one&#039;s ancestors/predecessors.

We are responsible only for our mistakes.

I subscribe to that school.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - That school of thought deals with people, not states or organisations. That&#039;s why, for example, popes apologise for the wrongs wrought by their predecessors several centuries before, because they stand in representation of an institution. It is the same with the government of Malta. If we reach the stage where we have to apologise to the Libyan people for our collusion with their oppressor, then George Abela will have to do it, and apologise all the way back to 1970.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/02/pajjiz-tal-valuri-whoring-ourselves-to-gaddafi/#comment-72224">red nose</a>.</p>
<p>There is one school of political thought which argues that one should not feel ashamed, or apologise, for the mistakes made by one&#8217;s ancestors/predecessors.</p>
<p>We are responsible only for our mistakes.</p>
<p>I subscribe to that school.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; That school of thought deals with people, not states or organisations. That&#8217;s why, for example, popes apologise for the wrongs wrought by their predecessors several centuries before, because they stand in representation of an institution. It is the same with the government of Malta. If we reach the stage where we have to apologise to the Libyan people for our collusion with their oppressor, then George Abela will have to do it, and apologise all the way back to 1970.]</strong></p>
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