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	Comments on: Gaddafi spokesman Musa Ibrahim is actually Musa Mansour, and his doctorate is in &#039;digital cinema&#039;	</title>
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		By: Carlos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Lybia she knows isnt the same Lybia Media shows to you. For this only reason you cant understand why a European can became pro-Kaddafi.

Just seach in Google Mages: &quot;great man made river&quot;

Look for Lybia in Human Development Index - there is nothing better than Lybia in Africa, and you, europeans, are helpinginquisotors fundamentalists to destroy it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lybia she knows isnt the same Lybia Media shows to you. For this only reason you cant understand why a European can became pro-Kaddafi.</p>
<p>Just seach in Google Mages: &#8220;great man made river&#8221;</p>
<p>Look for Lybia in Human Development Index &#8211; there is nothing better than Lybia in Africa, and you, europeans, are helpinginquisotors fundamentalists to destroy it!</p>
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		By: Eike		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 00:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/gaddafi-spokesman-musa-ibrahim-is-actually-musa-mansour-and-his-doctorate-is-in-digital-arts/#comment-78937&quot;&gt;Tim Ripard&lt;/a&gt;.

Nonsense. The Greens were the first to call for an arms embargo (they are presently very much into lobbying against arms trade, due to Merkel&#039;s tanks-for-the-Saudis deal).

There is a bunch of leftover oldschool lefties, &quot;anti-imperialists&quot;, who never saw the Wall come down. They are pro-Gaddafi. Many of them have turned to the &quot;New Right&quot; nationalists by now, or become &quot;Truthers&quot;. These too are pro-Gaddafi.

The radical Left is generally smart enough to recognize a popular uprising when they see it, and in part (those outside party politics) is perhaps the only segment of the German political sphere which has supported the &quot;rebels&quot; from the word go. They are not blindly loyal, but e.g. German indymedia tends to bluntly delete all pro-Gaddafi that are put up (neo-Nazis and &quot;Truthers&quot; often try to spam indymedia).

The Left (Democratic-Socialist) party is deeply split, due to it being anti-US but supportive of the Egyptian and Tunisian uprisings. The dividing line runs between the &quot;anti-imperialist&quot; faction and the &quot;modern Socialist&quot; faction; the older the members are the more they tend to be pro-Gaddafi. Note that they have a Ramelow too, but he&#039;s not related (the name apparently originates from a Mecklenburgian toponym).

The Social Democrats have chosen to stay mostly out of it and call for humanitarian aid. Who rules Libya does not seem to be high on their priority list.

The Conservatives are anti-Gaddafi in theory (being the governing party of a NATO country), but as Merkel was already in charge when Gaddafi cozied up with the West after 2005, she basically has hands-on knowledge of all the major shady deals that went on since then. Basically it&#039;s a question of strategy, so they are noncommitted. Seeing that Sarkozy (Merkel&#039;s competitor in the EU) is the leading anti-Gaddafi politico in the EU, and seeing that the Republicans don&#039;t like Obama&#039;s support of Sarkozy, the Conservatives by and large don&#039;t openly commit either, but one gets the feeling that they wouldn&#039;t have batted an eye if Gaddafi hat flattened Bengazi.

The only significant political party in Germany which is as pro-Gaddafi as they can legally get is the Free Democrats (Libertarians), co-governing with Merkel. They are generally as much anti-Israel as they can get away with and support Arab nationalism ever since this stopped being socialist. Abstaining from UNSC resolution 1973 was their work (it came as a surprise even to Merkel). The minister of economy (Bruederle) has permitted certain exports (some suspected, some proven) from Germany to Libya which legally are not quite kosher and were used by Gaddafi in the attempt to crush the uprising: Internet killswitch, riot suppression gear and other heavy-duty police equipment, and allegedly a black-market sale of G36 rifles (Saif is known to own one, despite no official sales of such guns to Libya ever taking place and the weapon being too new to be easily procured on the &quot;open&quot; black market). They can&#039;t say it openly, but they hate the &quot;rats&quot; with a vengeance. Their minister of economic development today flatly stated that &quot;Libya is too rich for us to give them aid&quot;. Go figure.

As regards Ramelow, she&#039;s probably one of those &quot;anti-imperialist&quot; folks, or used to be. Met her husband at a 2003 anti-Gulf War rally.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/gaddafi-spokesman-musa-ibrahim-is-actually-musa-mansour-and-his-doctorate-is-in-digital-arts/#comment-78937">Tim Ripard</a>.</p>
<p>Nonsense. The Greens were the first to call for an arms embargo (they are presently very much into lobbying against arms trade, due to Merkel&#8217;s tanks-for-the-Saudis deal).</p>
<p>There is a bunch of leftover oldschool lefties, &#8220;anti-imperialists&#8221;, who never saw the Wall come down. They are pro-Gaddafi. Many of them have turned to the &#8220;New Right&#8221; nationalists by now, or become &#8220;Truthers&#8221;. These too are pro-Gaddafi.</p>
<p>The radical Left is generally smart enough to recognize a popular uprising when they see it, and in part (those outside party politics) is perhaps the only segment of the German political sphere which has supported the &#8220;rebels&#8221; from the word go. They are not blindly loyal, but e.g. German indymedia tends to bluntly delete all pro-Gaddafi that are put up (neo-Nazis and &#8220;Truthers&#8221; often try to spam indymedia).</p>
<p>The Left (Democratic-Socialist) party is deeply split, due to it being anti-US but supportive of the Egyptian and Tunisian uprisings. The dividing line runs between the &#8220;anti-imperialist&#8221; faction and the &#8220;modern Socialist&#8221; faction; the older the members are the more they tend to be pro-Gaddafi. Note that they have a Ramelow too, but he&#8217;s not related (the name apparently originates from a Mecklenburgian toponym).</p>
<p>The Social Democrats have chosen to stay mostly out of it and call for humanitarian aid. Who rules Libya does not seem to be high on their priority list.</p>
<p>The Conservatives are anti-Gaddafi in theory (being the governing party of a NATO country), but as Merkel was already in charge when Gaddafi cozied up with the West after 2005, she basically has hands-on knowledge of all the major shady deals that went on since then. Basically it&#8217;s a question of strategy, so they are noncommitted. Seeing that Sarkozy (Merkel&#8217;s competitor in the EU) is the leading anti-Gaddafi politico in the EU, and seeing that the Republicans don&#8217;t like Obama&#8217;s support of Sarkozy, the Conservatives by and large don&#8217;t openly commit either, but one gets the feeling that they wouldn&#8217;t have batted an eye if Gaddafi hat flattened Bengazi.</p>
<p>The only significant political party in Germany which is as pro-Gaddafi as they can legally get is the Free Democrats (Libertarians), co-governing with Merkel. They are generally as much anti-Israel as they can get away with and support Arab nationalism ever since this stopped being socialist. Abstaining from UNSC resolution 1973 was their work (it came as a surprise even to Merkel). The minister of economy (Bruederle) has permitted certain exports (some suspected, some proven) from Germany to Libya which legally are not quite kosher and were used by Gaddafi in the attempt to crush the uprising: Internet killswitch, riot suppression gear and other heavy-duty police equipment, and allegedly a black-market sale of G36 rifles (Saif is known to own one, despite no official sales of such guns to Libya ever taking place and the weapon being too new to be easily procured on the &#8220;open&#8221; black market). They can&#8217;t say it openly, but they hate the &#8220;rats&#8221; with a vengeance. Their minister of economic development today flatly stated that &#8220;Libya is too rich for us to give them aid&#8221;. Go figure.</p>
<p>As regards Ramelow, she&#8217;s probably one of those &#8220;anti-imperialist&#8221; folks, or used to be. Met her husband at a 2003 anti-Gulf War rally.</p>
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		By: Klaus-Hamburg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Klaus-Hamburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 07:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Julia
why don`t you share the real life of your people, your parents in law aund your friends, just your community ?
Don`t hide youself. There is only this one way in saying I LOVE YOU - really to share their life (not just in the sense: no risk, no fun, but: I CARE FOR YOU) but not in permanent fear of a hangman now and in future. This is THE ONLY WAY TO A FREE LIFE !

Please remember in your community there might also be an other understanding in going with parents and others who are also around you and are meant to be near to you.
Let them be proud of you, you are more than just a mother !
Don`t waver and wander also from the way of living, you shared in your early childhood also with your classmates !

How will you explain your way of life in these days to your boy ?
Hiding is no decision, is no way of living and in no way claiming:  I LOVE YOU !
You are part of a tree - YOUR TREE - also in a symbiotic way / meaning, you can`t escape from !
- this I would say to my daughter -]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia<br />
why don`t you share the real life of your people, your parents in law aund your friends, just your community ?<br />
Don`t hide youself. There is only this one way in saying I LOVE YOU &#8211; really to share their life (not just in the sense: no risk, no fun, but: I CARE FOR YOU) but not in permanent fear of a hangman now and in future. This is THE ONLY WAY TO A FREE LIFE !</p>
<p>Please remember in your community there might also be an other understanding in going with parents and others who are also around you and are meant to be near to you.<br />
Let them be proud of you, you are more than just a mother !<br />
Don`t waver and wander also from the way of living, you shared in your early childhood also with your classmates !</p>
<p>How will you explain your way of life in these days to your boy ?<br />
Hiding is no decision, is no way of living and in no way claiming:  I LOVE YOU !<br />
You are part of a tree &#8211; YOUR TREE &#8211; also in a symbiotic way / meaning, you can`t escape from !<br />
&#8211; this I would say to my daughter &#8211;</p>
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		By: Dean Morrison		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dean Morrison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/gaddafi-spokesman-musa-ibrahim-is-actually-musa-mansour-and-his-doctorate-is-in-digital-arts/#comment-78940&quot;&gt;Grezz&lt;/a&gt;.

Malta is a beautiful country with beautiful people and a beautiful culture which anguishes me when I see their confusion on the neutrality issue.  The neutrality clause in their constitution does not prevent their action in enforcing UN SC Resolutions.  Besides, as good global citizens they have a duty and responsibility.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/gaddafi-spokesman-musa-ibrahim-is-actually-musa-mansour-and-his-doctorate-is-in-digital-arts/#comment-78940">Grezz</a>.</p>
<p>Malta is a beautiful country with beautiful people and a beautiful culture which anguishes me when I see their confusion on the neutrality issue.  The neutrality clause in their constitution does not prevent their action in enforcing UN SC Resolutions.  Besides, as good global citizens they have a duty and responsibility.</p>
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		By: Ixak		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ixak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suspect she doesn&#039;t really mean much of what she says - everything she writes is probably monitored, and she probably posts that tripe to keep her husband safe from suspicion. Notice that the blogs that she links to are all pro-opposition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect she doesn&#8217;t really mean much of what she says &#8211; everything she writes is probably monitored, and she probably posts that tripe to keep her husband safe from suspicion. Notice that the blogs that she links to are all pro-opposition.</p>
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		By: kev		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Prosit tassew, Sherlock. Qbadna ohra minnhom, dawn. B&#039;din ir-rata, kollha naqbduhom!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prosit tassew, Sherlock. Qbadna ohra minnhom, dawn. B&#8217;din ir-rata, kollha naqbduhom!</p>
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		By: anon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/gaddafi-spokesman-musa-ibrahim-is-actually-musa-mansour-and-his-doctorate-is-in-digital-arts/#comment-78943&quot;&gt;Karmenu ta&#039; Gaddafi&lt;/a&gt;.

I think he&#039;ll defect sometime soon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/gaddafi-spokesman-musa-ibrahim-is-actually-musa-mansour-and-his-doctorate-is-in-digital-arts/#comment-78943">Karmenu ta&#8217; Gaddafi</a>.</p>
<p>I think he&#8217;ll defect sometime soon.</p>
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		By: Karmenu ta' Gaddafi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karmenu ta' Gaddafi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.thames21.org.uk/news/cyclingthethames06.html

It looks like Musa Ibrahim/Mansour is a it of a tree-hugger too. How did he go from that to being spokesman for a murderous tyrant?

I suppose he always had it in him. Or maybe Gaddafi put drugs in his Nescafe.]]></description>
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<p>It looks like Musa Ibrahim/Mansour is a it of a tree-hugger too. How did he go from that to being spokesman for a murderous tyrant?</p>
<p>I suppose he always had it in him. Or maybe Gaddafi put drugs in his Nescafe.</p>
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		By: Karmenu ta' Gaddafi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karmenu ta' Gaddafi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Musa Ibrahim/Mansour makes (crap and corny) films and here&#039;s his channel on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/musa1274]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Musa Ibrahim/Mansour makes (crap and corny) films and here&#8217;s his channel on YouTube:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/musa1274" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/musa1274</a></p>
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		By: La Redoute		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[La Redoute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/03/30/blogs_from_the_qaddafi_bunker]]></description>
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