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		By: ciccio2011		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 14:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Carnival float-ing voters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carnival float-ing voters.</p>
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		By: Grezz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grezz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/joseph-muscat-loses-hair-and-sleep-over-the-libyan-crisis/#comment-73821&quot;&gt;Fleur&lt;/a&gt;.

Upstart, yes; young, no.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/joseph-muscat-loses-hair-and-sleep-over-the-libyan-crisis/#comment-73821">Fleur</a>.</p>
<p>Upstart, yes; young, no.</p>
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		By: Fleur		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.youtube.com/bestoflabour#p/a/u/0/cqOgxRSLHVM
Unbelievable. Whilst all world leaders are focused on Libya, this unbearable young upstart of Joseph Muscat visits the Carnival Floats]]></description>
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Unbelievable. Whilst all world leaders are focused on Libya, this unbearable young upstart of Joseph Muscat visits the Carnival Floats</p>
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		By: .Angus Black		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.Angus Black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joseph ilu re tal-karnival, mil-mument li lahaq lijder u beda jmexxi skoss buffi u meta ma kellux bizzejjed gab ftit antikalji bhal Grima, AST, Vella u Vella etc.

Issa li dawwar madwaru partita skaduti, qed ihossu xi ftit importanti.

Mar izur il-karrijiet tal-karnival biex jiehu xi ideja jew tnejn u jtihom lill-Karmenu biex jinkludihom fil-programm elettorali li qed jikteb.  Ghandu bzonn sentejn shah biex jikteb ta l-imbierek programm.

Nispera li l-kompjuter tal partit ma jergax jiehu zbalji u jerga jwaqqa il-partit Laburista ghac-cajt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph ilu re tal-karnival, mil-mument li lahaq lijder u beda jmexxi skoss buffi u meta ma kellux bizzejjed gab ftit antikalji bhal Grima, AST, Vella u Vella etc.</p>
<p>Issa li dawwar madwaru partita skaduti, qed ihossu xi ftit importanti.</p>
<p>Mar izur il-karrijiet tal-karnival biex jiehu xi ideja jew tnejn u jtihom lill-Karmenu biex jinkludihom fil-programm elettorali li qed jikteb.  Ghandu bzonn sentejn shah biex jikteb ta l-imbierek programm.</p>
<p>Nispera li l-kompjuter tal partit ma jergax jiehu zbalji u jerga jwaqqa il-partit Laburista ghac-cajt.</p>
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		By: M Fenech		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 14:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/joseph-muscat-loses-hair-and-sleep-over-the-libyan-crisis/#comment-73817&quot;&gt;Rita Camilleri&lt;/a&gt;.

Jew forsi qed jaspira li jsir ir-re tal-karnival.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/joseph-muscat-loses-hair-and-sleep-over-the-libyan-crisis/#comment-73817">Rita Camilleri</a>.</p>
<p>Jew forsi qed jaspira li jsir ir-re tal-karnival.</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 14:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/joseph-muscat-loses-hair-and-sleep-over-the-libyan-crisis/#comment-73808&quot;&gt;John&lt;/a&gt;.

No I don&#039;t either. I don&#039;t care why they voted for him. As I said before, I care for the present (even though the past has to be given its appropriate weight). If I did care and if I let my parents beliefs influence the way I think, I wouldn&#039;t have voted PN in 2003.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - You voted PN in 2003 because you wanted to be an EU citizen, punto e basta. It had nothing to do with assessing the relative merits or demerits of the political parties. If that were not the case, you would have voted for Sant in 2003 as you did in 2008. I doubt very much that Sant&#039;s qualities improved in your eyes between 2003 and 2008, causing you to change your mind. You should ask your parents why they voted for KMB in 1992. It&#039;s an important question and you need an answer. This is not to help you understand politics, but to help you understand them. If you don&#039;t know your parents, you can never know yourself.]&lt;/strong&gt;

Furthermore, the party can take a stand on an issue but that doesn&#039;t mean that all the delegates have to share the same views. This is also very evident on the divorce issue, with the PN taking a clear stand against divorce, yet some parliament members from the PN side are in favour of it.

So, can we safely say that because JPO is in favour of divorce, then the PN is also in favour of it, simply because JPO is not A DELEGATE but forms part of the cabinet? No ux, it wouldn&#039;t be fair to assume that, because &quot;anyone with a brain&quot; can clearly understand that it is impossible to share exactly the same views on every single issue.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando is NOT part of the cabinet. The cabinet is made up of the prime minister and other ministers. Cabinet positions are government positions, so if the cabinet is in favour of divorce then de facto the government is. Pullicino Orlando is an MP. It is only the Labour Party which has &#039;delegates&#039;. They are the people who vote for the party&#039;s positions and policy and who elect the party leader. Governments and parliament do not have delegates, and the Nationalist Party has a different system. Karmenu Mifsud Bonnici is a party delegate. But beyond that, you make one fundamental error of comparison: Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando was never a party kingpin, prime minister or party leader and he never shaped party policy. Karmenu Mifsud Bonnici was all of that and the Labour Party you see today is the Labour Party I knew when he led it, right down to same individuals, one of them writing the party electoral programme. THAT is why you should be interested in the past. Only flibbertigibbets live in the present.]&lt;/strong&gt;

The Labour Party has not said anything about constitution, neutrality, military base and what not. So until you hear an official statement coming from the PL, I think it would be unwise to assume.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Not to be patronising or anything, John, but I am rather a lot older than you are and have almost three decades of adult experience of the Labour Party, so please. Allow that I might have a little insight into this one.]&lt;/strong&gt;

As I said before, should Malta be used as a military base and the PL lashes at the government with the constitution excuse, then I would be the first one to return to this blog saying that they are dead wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/joseph-muscat-loses-hair-and-sleep-over-the-libyan-crisis/#comment-73808">John</a>.</p>
<p>No I don&#8217;t either. I don&#8217;t care why they voted for him. As I said before, I care for the present (even though the past has to be given its appropriate weight). If I did care and if I let my parents beliefs influence the way I think, I wouldn&#8217;t have voted PN in 2003.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; You voted PN in 2003 because you wanted to be an EU citizen, punto e basta. It had nothing to do with assessing the relative merits or demerits of the political parties. If that were not the case, you would have voted for Sant in 2003 as you did in 2008. I doubt very much that Sant&#8217;s qualities improved in your eyes between 2003 and 2008, causing you to change your mind. You should ask your parents why they voted for KMB in 1992. It&#8217;s an important question and you need an answer. This is not to help you understand politics, but to help you understand them. If you don&#8217;t know your parents, you can never know yourself.]</strong></p>
<p>Furthermore, the party can take a stand on an issue but that doesn&#8217;t mean that all the delegates have to share the same views. This is also very evident on the divorce issue, with the PN taking a clear stand against divorce, yet some parliament members from the PN side are in favour of it.</p>
<p>So, can we safely say that because JPO is in favour of divorce, then the PN is also in favour of it, simply because JPO is not A DELEGATE but forms part of the cabinet? No ux, it wouldn&#8217;t be fair to assume that, because &#8220;anyone with a brain&#8221; can clearly understand that it is impossible to share exactly the same views on every single issue.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando is NOT part of the cabinet. The cabinet is made up of the prime minister and other ministers. Cabinet positions are government positions, so if the cabinet is in favour of divorce then de facto the government is. Pullicino Orlando is an MP. It is only the Labour Party which has &#8216;delegates&#8217;. They are the people who vote for the party&#8217;s positions and policy and who elect the party leader. Governments and parliament do not have delegates, and the Nationalist Party has a different system. Karmenu Mifsud Bonnici is a party delegate. But beyond that, you make one fundamental error of comparison: Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando was never a party kingpin, prime minister or party leader and he never shaped party policy. Karmenu Mifsud Bonnici was all of that and the Labour Party you see today is the Labour Party I knew when he led it, right down to same individuals, one of them writing the party electoral programme. THAT is why you should be interested in the past. Only flibbertigibbets live in the present.]</strong></p>
<p>The Labour Party has not said anything about constitution, neutrality, military base and what not. So until you hear an official statement coming from the PL, I think it would be unwise to assume.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Not to be patronising or anything, John, but I am rather a lot older than you are and have almost three decades of adult experience of the Labour Party, so please. Allow that I might have a little insight into this one.]</strong></p>
<p>As I said before, should Malta be used as a military base and the PL lashes at the government with the constitution excuse, then I would be the first one to return to this blog saying that they are dead wrong.</p>
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		By: Rita Camilleri		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rita Camilleri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 14:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/joseph-muscat-loses-hair-and-sleep-over-the-libyan-crisis/#comment-73813&quot;&gt;Maria&lt;/a&gt;.

Ha jiehu ftit idejat ta&#039; x&#039;se jilbes fil-karnival.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/joseph-muscat-loses-hair-and-sleep-over-the-libyan-crisis/#comment-73813">Maria</a>.</p>
<p>Ha jiehu ftit idejat ta&#8217; x&#8217;se jilbes fil-karnival.</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 14:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/joseph-muscat-loses-hair-and-sleep-over-the-libyan-crisis/#comment-73808&quot;&gt;John&lt;/a&gt;.

I never voted for him, I&#039;m 26 years old.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - That explains it then. Now please go home and ask your parents WHY they voted for him in 1992, when they had had five years&#039; experience of something manifestly better. I don&#039;t need to know the answer, but you do.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/joseph-muscat-loses-hair-and-sleep-over-the-libyan-crisis/#comment-73808">John</a>.</p>
<p>I never voted for him, I&#8217;m 26 years old.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; That explains it then. Now please go home and ask your parents WHY they voted for him in 1992, when they had had five years&#8217; experience of something manifestly better. I don&#8217;t need to know the answer, but you do.]</strong></p>
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		By: maryanne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maryanne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 12:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/joseph-muscat-loses-hair-and-sleep-over-the-libyan-crisis/#comment-73808&quot;&gt;John&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Outgoing leader Alfred Sant went to vote at about 2015CEST. He left party headquarters without commenting. His predecessor Karmenu Mifsud Bonnici, a delegate for life, cast his vote a short time later. Former Labour leader Dom Mintoff has no voting rights.&quot;

www.di-ve.com/Default.aspx?ID=44&#038;M=&#038;Action=]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/joseph-muscat-loses-hair-and-sleep-over-the-libyan-crisis/#comment-73808">John</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Outgoing leader Alfred Sant went to vote at about 2015CEST. He left party headquarters without commenting. His predecessor Karmenu Mifsud Bonnici, a delegate for life, cast his vote a short time later. Former Labour leader Dom Mintoff has no voting rights.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.di-ve.com/Default.aspx?ID=44&#038;M=&#038;Action=" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.di-ve.com/Default.aspx?ID=44&#038;M=&#038;Action=</a></p>
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		By: Bus Driver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bus Driver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 12:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/joseph-muscat-loses-hair-and-sleep-over-the-libyan-crisis/#comment-73802&quot;&gt;Housewive&lt;/a&gt;.

Very apt, Housewive, ghax kull inizjattiva li jiehdu tal-Labour tispicca karnival.

Ghalkemm xi kultant thallilhom xi kocc eluf ta&#039; ewro li jigbru minghand ic-cwiec - bhal ma gara fl-inizjattiva tar-refund tal-VAT fuq registrazzjoni tal-karozzi..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/03/joseph-muscat-loses-hair-and-sleep-over-the-libyan-crisis/#comment-73802">Housewive</a>.</p>
<p>Very apt, Housewive, ghax kull inizjattiva li jiehdu tal-Labour tispicca karnival.</p>
<p>Ghalkemm xi kultant thallilhom xi kocc eluf ta&#8217; ewro li jigbru minghand ic-cwiec &#8211; bhal ma gara fl-inizjattiva tar-refund tal-VAT fuq registrazzjoni tal-karozzi..</p>
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