Comments on: EUR4 million on a referendum, and they're going to vote with their conscience anyway

By: Joseph Vassallo

Joseph Vassallo — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:03:43 +0000

Il-membri parlamentari ghandhom jivvutaw skond il-kuxjenza taghhom. Ir-referendum ta` nhar is-Sibt kien wiehed konsultattiv u mhux wiehed li jorbot. Aktar minn hekk dawk illi vvutaw kontra d-divorzju minhabba t-twemmin taghhom ma jistghux ibiddlu l-posizzjoni taghhom. Il-Knisja kontra d-divorzju. Biex inkun aktar car, Kristu kontra d-divorzju. Ir-rizultat tar-referendum mhux ser ibiddel dan. Dawk illi vvutaw kontra minhabba li ghallimna Kristu, ma jistghux ghajr jivvutaw kontra fil-parlament. Hekk biss jistghu jkunu konsistenti mat-twemmin taghhom u ghalhekk mal-kuxjenza taghhom. Jekk il-vot ighaddi, kif jidher li ser jaghmel, wiehed ghandu jibda jahdem biex jingabru bizzejjed firem biex isir referendum abrogattiv ghax ma giex spjegat sew il-konsegwenzi tad-divorzju u kemm Kristu kien kontra d-divorzju.

By: Robert Galea

Robert Galea — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 17:29:00 +0000

JPO should talk less and read more. Edwin reads much more than you Daphne and Jeffrey together. Even some people here should read much more and talk less. I expect that a member of parliament raeds much more than I do.

Charles De Gaulle ” the electorate is consulted only to decide what colour to give to the tram”.

By: pippo

pippo — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 14:30:30 +0000

george id dawnuts dak li ha ir ritratt tal vot tieghu qabel ma poggieh fil kaxxa fejn gab li ivvota iva

[Daphne – I don’t know him, sorry. I move in different circles.]

By: pippo

pippo — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:41:02 +0000

Daphne
le zgur mhiniex qed nitkellem bit tahwid (riddles)
li forsi jista jkun li saqsejtek mistoqsija daqxejn antipatika biex tirrispondi imma ma gara xejn.

[Daphne – Fi-fatt ma fihmtx id-domanda. Min hu George?]

By: Tim Ripard

Tim Ripard — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 08:51:59 +0000

In reply to Tim Ripard. Sorry, missed the 'elve' goings on, though I was aware of 'intollerant'.

By: ALG

ALG — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 06:11:49 +0000

Unfortunately the distinction between government and party is not being made.

An MP who is a member of the government (a frontbencher, cabinet minister, prime minister, parliamentary secretary) is now obliged to vote FOR the divorce bill or resign his government post.

The people whose will is supreme have spoken clearly, and in a democratic state any member of government who challenges the will of the people will be undermining the very essence of the democratic state.

As regards ordinary MPs I feel that it is dangerous that they be seen to forgo their parliamentary independence and be coerced to vote in a particular way. It is then up to the electorate to decide in the next general election whether they are still worthy of their trust and should continue to represent them.

I therefore expect the PM to make this clear to members of his government. Perhaps some government resignations will create space for the appointment of more liberal MPS and create a more representative PN government.

By: pippo

pippo — Tue, 31 May 2011 21:17:35 +0000

Araw kif jahsbuha sezzjoni tal-poplu fl-interactive poll ta’ DI-VE.

By: pippo

pippo — Tue, 31 May 2011 21:06:27 +0000

daphne
fuq george ta dawnuta ma ghedt xejn ghax ivvota kif riedt int, mur ara kieku kont kontra kif ivvota hu kemm kont taqlalu?

[Daphne – I’m sorry, you’re talking in riddles.]

By: pippo

pippo — Tue, 31 May 2011 20:56:26 +0000

daphne
gioavanna per ezempju titla fil parlament min dawk li jivvutawla mit 13 id distrett, allura hi trid timxi skond ir rieda tal maggoranza ta kostitwenti taghha u mhux skond ir rieda tan nies min distretti ohra, allura mhiex qed tghamel xi haga hazina jekk tivvota skond il kuxjenza taghha u skont min tellghahha fil parlament

[Daphne – Giovanna Debono ghandha timxi mar-rieda tal-poplu. Jekk mihiex lesta taghmel hekk, tersaq min-nofs u taghmel il-wisgha ghal-haddiehor.]

By: P Borg

P Borg — Tue, 31 May 2011 20:05:09 +0000

In reply to P Borg. You're wrong Daphne. Despite Gonzi wanting a referendum (albeit AFTER discussing the divorce bill in parliament), technically it was the PL motion which set the ball rolling for the referendum question and for the referendum itself. The PN MPs (with the exception of JPO) voted against that motion and, as a result, against the referendum (and the referendum question). [Daphne - I can see what's coming next, using the magnificent logic currently on display: if they voted against the referendum they have the right to ignore the result.]