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		By: Anastasia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anastasia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 11:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Vera ma nahsibx li ghandek x&#039;taghmel, instead of stating an opinion you criticise the billboard. BRAVA BRAVA BRAVA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vera ma nahsibx li ghandek x&#8217;taghmel, instead of stating an opinion you criticise the billboard. BRAVA BRAVA BRAVA</p>
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		By: El Topo		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/how-do-we-know-these-people-are-even-married/#comment-81758</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[El Topo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 14:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/how-do-we-know-these-people-are-even-married/#comment-81757&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

Click the right button.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/how-do-we-know-these-people-are-even-married/#comment-81757">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>Click the right button.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 22:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/how-do-we-know-these-people-are-even-married/#comment-81755&quot;&gt;Robert Galea&lt;/a&gt;.

U l-qassis ta&#039; Emmaus x&#039;qal?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/how-do-we-know-these-people-are-even-married/#comment-81755">Robert Galea</a>.</p>
<p>U l-qassis ta&#8217; Emmaus x&#8217;qal?</p>
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		By: Dee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 11:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/how-do-we-know-these-people-are-even-married/#comment-81752&quot;&gt;NGT&lt;/a&gt;.

Judging by what gets said and by whom on a regular basis on the Labour media, we are still  in the sixties.

So much for the partit modern u progressiv tal-generazzjoni rebbieha.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/how-do-we-know-these-people-are-even-married/#comment-81752">NGT</a>.</p>
<p>Judging by what gets said and by whom on a regular basis on the Labour media, we are still  in the sixties.</p>
<p>So much for the partit modern u progressiv tal-generazzjoni rebbieha.</p>
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		By: Robert Galea		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Galea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 11:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mela ma rajtx x&#039;imbarraz ghandna quddiemna dazgur li dawn jmorru jissepparaw u jiddivorzjaw u jierghu jizzewgu. Mela ma tafx li hawn minn jirragunha mhux b&#039;mohhu imma b&#039;xi haga ohra. Qal il-qassis ta&#039; Kana li hawn hafna nies irresponsabbli.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mela ma rajtx x&#8217;imbarraz ghandna quddiemna dazgur li dawn jmorru jissepparaw u jiddivorzjaw u jierghu jizzewgu. Mela ma tafx li hawn minn jirragunha mhux b&#8217;mohhu imma b&#8217;xi haga ohra. Qal il-qassis ta&#8217; Kana li hawn hafna nies irresponsabbli.</p>
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		By: I.R.A.B.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I.R.A.B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 09:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/how-do-we-know-these-people-are-even-married/#comment-81746&quot;&gt;Alison Bezzina&lt;/a&gt;.

Astonishing. I am completely speechless too. Where do you even begin to rip this letter apart?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/how-do-we-know-these-people-are-even-married/#comment-81746">Alison Bezzina</a>.</p>
<p>Astonishing. I am completely speechless too. Where do you even begin to rip this letter apart?</p>
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		By: NGT		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NGT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 05:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Read these gems I found on the ToM.com. I despair (abd even that&#039;s a sin I&#039;m told)...

Mr Joe Zammit

Yesterday, 16:09

 Par.2385 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church states:

“Divorce is immoral also because it introduces disorder into the family and into society. This disorder brings grave harm to the deserted spouse, TO CHILDREN traumatized by the separation of their parents and often torn between them, and because of its contagious effect which makes it truly a PLAGUE on society.”

Join in the battle between God and the devil! Fight the good fight! The victory is ours, it&#039;s already guaranteed!

Mr Joe Zammit

Yesterday, 16:10


 Padre Pio, who had regular contacts with God, the devil, saints and angels, said more that once that &quot;divorce is a passport to hell&quot;. He knew what he was saying and no one could belie him.

There are many people who can give witness to what he said. He could narrate even details of dead persons to their relatives, without even knowing those persons. Before he went to sleep, Padre Pio used to greet Buona Notte to his confratelli (other friars). These answered to him: Buon viaggio, because every night he used to go to different persons all over the world to convert them, and sometimes also to heal them physically.

 Remarriage after divorce is cohabitation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read these gems I found on the ToM.com. I despair (abd even that&#8217;s a sin I&#8217;m told)&#8230;</p>
<p>Mr Joe Zammit</p>
<p>Yesterday, 16:09</p>
<p> Par.2385 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church states:</p>
<p>“Divorce is immoral also because it introduces disorder into the family and into society. This disorder brings grave harm to the deserted spouse, TO CHILDREN traumatized by the separation of their parents and often torn between them, and because of its contagious effect which makes it truly a PLAGUE on society.”</p>
<p>Join in the battle between God and the devil! Fight the good fight! The victory is ours, it&#8217;s already guaranteed!</p>
<p>Mr Joe Zammit</p>
<p>Yesterday, 16:10</p>
<p> Padre Pio, who had regular contacts with God, the devil, saints and angels, said more that once that &#8220;divorce is a passport to hell&#8221;. He knew what he was saying and no one could belie him.</p>
<p>There are many people who can give witness to what he said. He could narrate even details of dead persons to their relatives, without even knowing those persons. Before he went to sleep, Padre Pio used to greet Buona Notte to his confratelli (other friars). These answered to him: Buon viaggio, because every night he used to go to different persons all over the world to convert them, and sometimes also to heal them physically.</p>
<p> Remarriage after divorce is cohabitation.</p>
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		By: NGT		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 04:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Looks like we&#039;re going back to the 60s - or maybe we&#039;re still stuck in those times.

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110515/local/people-not-in-line-with-church-teachings-cannot-receive-communion-bishop-grech.365488]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like we&#8217;re going back to the 60s &#8211; or maybe we&#8217;re still stuck in those times.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110515/local/people-not-in-line-with-church-teachings-cannot-receive-communion-bishop-grech.365488" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110515/local/people-not-in-line-with-church-teachings-cannot-receive-communion-bishop-grech.365488</a></p>
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		By: Reuben Scicluna		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reuben Scicluna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 03:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you agree that:

a) divorce - once legislated for - will be a bit of a status symbol in the first 2 - 3 years (I strongly believe it will come through, quite frankly);

b) in these first 3 years it will be used largely by a certain group of people. I don&#039;t know the technical name for the group, but to my mind it&#039;s the medium-educated (1st degree) with above average income; the sort to be seen strolling in the Zara - the Point area.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you agree that:</p>
<p>a) divorce &#8211; once legislated for &#8211; will be a bit of a status symbol in the first 2 &#8211; 3 years (I strongly believe it will come through, quite frankly);</p>
<p>b) in these first 3 years it will be used largely by a certain group of people. I don&#8217;t know the technical name for the group, but to my mind it&#8217;s the medium-educated (1st degree) with above average income; the sort to be seen strolling in the Zara &#8211; the Point area.</p>
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		By: Reuben Scicluna		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reuben Scicluna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 03:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that by &quot;indissoluble&quot; or perhaps even &quot;Catholic&quot; marriage people limit themselves to mean the way the union was contracted i.e. in Church during Mass and in the presence of a priest (incidentally marriage is unique in that it is the only sacrament that the recipients administer to each other; the priest is only there as an &quot;official witness&quot;).

When one says &quot;Catholic marriage&quot; one means the Catholic way of life lived by the spouses e.g. turning the other cheek, forgiving for seventy times seven times (= 490 :) ), loving God with all your might and loving your neighbour like yourself etc

The interesting point is that anybody following these central tenets of Catholicsm is guaranteed - and I don&#039;t use the word facetiously - to have a successful marriage. A problem-free union is a fiction. It&#039;s not the problems that destroy marriages, but the way people deal with the problems.

Then there&#039;s another thing. What makes for a healthy marriage between two Catholic individuals is the same that would sustain any other marriage between any other man and woman. It would be reasonable to expect that that which harms a &quot;Catholic&quot; marriage would also harm a &quot;non-Catholic&quot; marriage.

The Roman Catholic Church&#039;s opposition to divorce, other than being just about its teachings - which aren&#039;t really &quot;its&quot; teachings at all, it just transmits what God has laid down, is based on appreciation of society needs and the dignity of persons.

That is why that poster is not as bad an nonsensical as you make it out to be. What I find questionable, however, is that it is making a verifiable (or testable) claim about something that has its basis outside science.

Admittedly, the claim makes intuitive sense, but how can you establish a causal link between a &quot;healthy&quot; family and &quot;healthy&quot; society? What criteria shall you be using to identify &quot;healthy&quot; families?

I&#039;m not quite comfortable with this aspect of the NO campaign.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that by &#8220;indissoluble&#8221; or perhaps even &#8220;Catholic&#8221; marriage people limit themselves to mean the way the union was contracted i.e. in Church during Mass and in the presence of a priest (incidentally marriage is unique in that it is the only sacrament that the recipients administer to each other; the priest is only there as an &#8220;official witness&#8221;).</p>
<p>When one says &#8220;Catholic marriage&#8221; one means the Catholic way of life lived by the spouses e.g. turning the other cheek, forgiving for seventy times seven times (= 490 :) ), loving God with all your might and loving your neighbour like yourself etc</p>
<p>The interesting point is that anybody following these central tenets of Catholicsm is guaranteed &#8211; and I don&#8217;t use the word facetiously &#8211; to have a successful marriage. A problem-free union is a fiction. It&#8217;s not the problems that destroy marriages, but the way people deal with the problems.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s another thing. What makes for a healthy marriage between two Catholic individuals is the same that would sustain any other marriage between any other man and woman. It would be reasonable to expect that that which harms a &#8220;Catholic&#8221; marriage would also harm a &#8220;non-Catholic&#8221; marriage.</p>
<p>The Roman Catholic Church&#8217;s opposition to divorce, other than being just about its teachings &#8211; which aren&#8217;t really &#8220;its&#8221; teachings at all, it just transmits what God has laid down, is based on appreciation of society needs and the dignity of persons.</p>
<p>That is why that poster is not as bad an nonsensical as you make it out to be. What I find questionable, however, is that it is making a verifiable (or testable) claim about something that has its basis outside science.</p>
<p>Admittedly, the claim makes intuitive sense, but how can you establish a causal link between a &#8220;healthy&#8221; family and &#8220;healthy&#8221; society? What criteria shall you be using to identify &#8220;healthy&#8221; families?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite comfortable with this aspect of the NO campaign.</p>
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