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		By: dery		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82358</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 21:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82355&quot;&gt;Edward Caruana Galizia&lt;/a&gt;.

During Gordon Manche&#039;s tele chats there is a running banner that urges people to donate money. We are not told what we are meant to be donating for. I assume that we are meant to donate for him to continue ministering. As his ministering involves unbending the bent, then yes, people are paying for his gay conversions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82355">Edward Caruana Galizia</a>.</p>
<p>During Gordon Manche&#8217;s tele chats there is a running banner that urges people to donate money. We are not told what we are meant to be donating for. I assume that we are meant to donate for him to continue ministering. As his ministering involves unbending the bent, then yes, people are paying for his gay conversions.</p>
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		By: Erasmus		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82357</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erasmus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 22:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82353&quot;&gt;il-Ginger&lt;/a&gt;.

Manché would probably counter that an abstinence programme is a purely man-made artefact, whereas the approach he advocates involves turning one&#039;s life over to  God Himself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82353">il-Ginger</a>.</p>
<p>Manché would probably counter that an abstinence programme is a purely man-made artefact, whereas the approach he advocates involves turning one&#8217;s life over to  God Himself.</p>
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		By: dery		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 20:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In my last comment I should have written &quot;.....blonde psychologist wife who, if I am not mistaken, WAS also ordained a pastor. &quot; His wife is a pastor too!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my last comment I should have written &#8220;&#8230;..blonde psychologist wife who, if I am not mistaken, WAS also ordained a pastor. &#8221; His wife is a pastor too!</p>
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		By: Edward Caruana Galizia		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82355</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 20:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well said, Daphne.

Last week I wrote a letter to The Times explaining that no one can convert anyone to any sexuality. What made me laugh was that even though I explained that all of these ex-gay ministries that exist have a success rate of 3%, and that 3% work within the ministry themselves, someone wrote a comment below the article you mentioned, claiming that Exodus International is proof that tons of gay men and women are converting, so it is possible.

May I draw everyone&#039;s attention to the following video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDiYeJ_bsQo

Now can anyone answer this question?

How legal are Mr Manche&#039;s actions? Is he or his wife charging for their alleged conversion services? Or is it all right because it&#039;s being done in the name of Jesus? And why haven&#039;t all social workers, psychologists and psychiatrists complained and taken action?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Daphne.</p>
<p>Last week I wrote a letter to The Times explaining that no one can convert anyone to any sexuality. What made me laugh was that even though I explained that all of these ex-gay ministries that exist have a success rate of 3%, and that 3% work within the ministry themselves, someone wrote a comment below the article you mentioned, claiming that Exodus International is proof that tons of gay men and women are converting, so it is possible.</p>
<p>May I draw everyone&#8217;s attention to the following video:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDiYeJ_bsQo" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDiYeJ_bsQo</a></p>
<p>Now can anyone answer this question?</p>
<p>How legal are Mr Manche&#8217;s actions? Is he or his wife charging for their alleged conversion services? Or is it all right because it&#8217;s being done in the name of Jesus? And why haven&#8217;t all social workers, psychologists and psychiatrists complained and taken action?</p>
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		By: dery		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82354</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 20:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know why you keep calling him pastor. There is a Simpsons episode where Homer becomes a pastor by signing up online against a small fee. Unlike Catholic priests who must go through university and study some philsosphy at least, God knows (or perhaps not) what these pastors learn.

You forgot to mention his peroxide blonde psychologist wife who, if I am not mistaken, has also ordained a pastor. I wonder how &#039;converting&#039; homosexuals sits with the professional body that regulates(?) psychologists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why you keep calling him pastor. There is a Simpsons episode where Homer becomes a pastor by signing up online against a small fee. Unlike Catholic priests who must go through university and study some philsosphy at least, God knows (or perhaps not) what these pastors learn.</p>
<p>You forgot to mention his peroxide blonde psychologist wife who, if I am not mistaken, has also ordained a pastor. I wonder how &#8216;converting&#8217; homosexuals sits with the professional body that regulates(?) psychologists.</p>
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		By: il-Ginger		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 15:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82344&quot;&gt;Erasmus&lt;/a&gt;.

Because abstinence programmes worked really well with straight teenagers....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82344">Erasmus</a>.</p>
<p>Because abstinence programmes worked really well with straight teenagers&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Stefan Vella		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82352</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stefan Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 15:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82348&quot;&gt;red nose&lt;/a&gt;.

I have no inclination to talk reverently about fairies, pixies, ogres, goblins and other assorted &quot;man-made&quot; creatures.

Why should I make an exception for God?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82348">red nose</a>.</p>
<p>I have no inclination to talk reverently about fairies, pixies, ogres, goblins and other assorted &#8220;man-made&#8221; creatures.</p>
<p>Why should I make an exception for God?</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82351</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 14:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82348&quot;&gt;red nose&lt;/a&gt;.

Mentioning poking in this context, Red Nose, was a very bad idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82348">red nose</a>.</p>
<p>Mentioning poking in this context, Red Nose, was a very bad idea.</p>
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		By: Paul Caruana		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/05/queer-no-more/#comment-82350</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Caruana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 14:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remember another catechism refrain from childhood: “Why can&#039;t priests get married?” “Because they&#039;re married to the church.”

Well, then.

For the sake of fairness and consistency the state should recognise holy orders as a form of marriage. That way clergymen who shed their dog collar - and there&#039;s always one within spitting distance in Malta - wouldn&#039;t be able to get married (again).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember another catechism refrain from childhood: “Why can&#8217;t priests get married?” “Because they&#8217;re married to the church.”</p>
<p>Well, then.</p>
<p>For the sake of fairness and consistency the state should recognise holy orders as a form of marriage. That way clergymen who shed their dog collar &#8211; and there&#8217;s always one within spitting distance in Malta &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t be able to get married (again).</p>
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		By: me		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 14:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If he thinks he is so good an instrument for healing, then why doesn&#039;t he camp out at Mater Dei and work his way up from the basement to the upper floors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he thinks he is so good an instrument for healing, then why doesn&#8217;t he camp out at Mater Dei and work his way up from the basement to the upper floors.</p>
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