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		By: Fenech M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fenech M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/tossing-a-coin-on-conscience/#comment-84528&quot;&gt;stefan&lt;/a&gt;.

Here&#039;s another one who is tossing a coin on conscience

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110608/opinion/The-salary-hikes-comedy-of-errors-.369461]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/tossing-a-coin-on-conscience/#comment-84528">stefan</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another one who is tossing a coin on conscience</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110608/opinion/The-salary-hikes-comedy-of-errors-.369461" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110608/opinion/The-salary-hikes-comedy-of-errors-.369461</a></p>
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		By: Stephen Forster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Forster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 14:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/tossing-a-coin-on-conscience/#comment-84548&quot;&gt;jae&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;What we need now is national healing and reconciliation.&quot; Errr hello It&#039;s not South Africa post apartheid, the &quot;Yes&quot; vote won. Now just implement it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/tossing-a-coin-on-conscience/#comment-84548">jae</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;What we need now is national healing and reconciliation.&#8221; Errr hello It&#8217;s not South Africa post apartheid, the &#8220;Yes&#8221; vote won. Now just implement it.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/tossing-a-coin-on-conscience/#comment-84549&quot;&gt;Kenneth Cassar&lt;/a&gt;.

Say what you will about that Fr Joe, but he&#039;s one snappy dresser, with an admirable cut of jib on his pinstripe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/tossing-a-coin-on-conscience/#comment-84549">Kenneth Cassar</a>.</p>
<p>Say what you will about that Fr Joe, but he&#8217;s one snappy dresser, with an admirable cut of jib on his pinstripe.</p>
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		By: Dominic Chircop		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dominic Chircop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At this moment, all it needs is a Brutus.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this moment, all it needs is a Brutus.</p>
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		By: jae		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/tossing-a-coin-on-conscience/#comment-84548&quot;&gt;jae&lt;/a&gt;.

Here’s another one who thinks it’s time to move on and he voted yes.

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110605/blogs/happening-again.368901

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - I tend to agree with this comment posted beneath the article in question:&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Mr Chris Gatt

Jun 5th, 20:42

Sorry Bocca can&#039;t agree with you on this one ( and not for the first time I may add! :)).

This is a classic case of the Nationalist Party losing the plot and shooting itself in the foot.

First the PM does the right thing and rushed to TV to admit the yeas have it. It was obviously a prepared speech and not off the cuff, so why, oh why, did he think it appropriate to add the weasel words: &#039;I do not agree with this law, but I will make sure that there are enough votes to see it through&quot;, or words to that effect?

From then on in the rot set in. The media immediately smelt a story and went for blood. They pounced on very MP they could find to ask them (legitimately) how they would vote .Speculation was riot. And so what should have been a private debate within the party becomes a public spectacle of a party tying itself up in knots.

If the PM had merely said the people had spoken , we will now legislate. That would have been an end to it. The vote would have been carried without too much hassle. Now both the yeas and the nays will be ticking off which MP voted how.

But this has really been a fascinating example of how not to things right from the start. It was fascinating to see how the PM (surrounded by a gaggle of self-righteous &#039;yes men) let his judgement be clouded by emotion and choose the wrong option at every step of the way. Including now. Truly a case of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!!&quot;]&lt;/strong&gt;



Incidentally, a certain JoeM  posted a comment earlier and said that he wants his ‘pound of flesh’.  He also wants to see MPs ‘squirm, contort and suffer. ’  So is this what it is all about?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/tossing-a-coin-on-conscience/#comment-84548">jae</a>.</p>
<p>Here’s another one who thinks it’s time to move on and he voted yes.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110605/blogs/happening-again.368901" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110605/blogs/happening-again.368901</a></p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; I tend to agree with this comment posted beneath the article in question:</strong><br />
<strong>&#8220;Mr Chris Gatt</p>
<p>Jun 5th, 20:42</p>
<p>Sorry Bocca can&#8217;t agree with you on this one ( and not for the first time I may add! :)).</p>
<p>This is a classic case of the Nationalist Party losing the plot and shooting itself in the foot.</p>
<p>First the PM does the right thing and rushed to TV to admit the yeas have it. It was obviously a prepared speech and not off the cuff, so why, oh why, did he think it appropriate to add the weasel words: &#8216;I do not agree with this law, but I will make sure that there are enough votes to see it through&#8221;, or words to that effect?</p>
<p>From then on in the rot set in. The media immediately smelt a story and went for blood. They pounced on very MP they could find to ask them (legitimately) how they would vote .Speculation was riot. And so what should have been a private debate within the party becomes a public spectacle of a party tying itself up in knots.</p>
<p>If the PM had merely said the people had spoken , we will now legislate. That would have been an end to it. The vote would have been carried without too much hassle. Now both the yeas and the nays will be ticking off which MP voted how.</p>
<p>But this has really been a fascinating example of how not to things right from the start. It was fascinating to see how the PM (surrounded by a gaggle of self-righteous &#8216;yes men) let his judgement be clouded by emotion and choose the wrong option at every step of the way. Including now. Truly a case of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!!&#8221;]</strong></p>
<p>Incidentally, a certain JoeM  posted a comment earlier and said that he wants his ‘pound of flesh’.  He also wants to see MPs ‘squirm, contort and suffer. ’  So is this what it is all about?</p>
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		By: Malcolm Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Malcolm Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 09:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;Conscience and cowardice are really the same things. Concience is the trade-name of the firm. That is all&#039;  - Oscar Wilde]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Conscience and cowardice are really the same things. Concience is the trade-name of the firm. That is all&#8217;  &#8211; Oscar Wilde</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 09:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now don’t go and spoil it all by doing something stupid like voting NO

Dear PN Parliamentary Group,

Later on this morning you will meet to discuss next Saturday’s PL honoraria motion. Most probably the divorce legislation bill will also dominate the discussion.

As a liberal PN supporter I appeal to all of you, namely the Prime Minister, to be sensible and realize that if you persist in getting this wrong Malta will very soon go to the polls and Joseph Muscat will become Malta’s next Prime Minister. We can’t hand this country to Muscat. He is not prepared – he simply doesn’t have it. But am afraid that as things stand this will happen very soon.

So please dear PN MPs do be sensible and stop engaging in short-lived games.

Dear JPO next Saturday it would be suicidal for you to vote in favour of the PL motion – you are right now on a high and for the first time since the general election I’m not disappointed that I voted for you. Thanks to you and the likes of Deborah Schembri this country finally joined the rest of the civilized world. So please JPO don’t go and spoil it all by doing something stupid like voting with the Opposition.

Dear Prime Minister, you did a fantastic job at the helm, managing to weather the economic storm successfully. Really and truly you proved to be a safe pair of hands.

But now, please, don’t go and spoil it all by doing something stupid (read suicidal) by voting NO or Abstaining on the Divorce Legislation Bill. The will of the people has to be respected and no it’s not enough to guarantee that the bill will go through with or without your vote. Of course, the bill will go through but then if you vote NO or abstain that would surely not be thanks to your vote. Because, if all MPs had to use your same logic the Bill would not go through. Thankfully there are some sensible MPs who despite voting NO in the referendum have now declared that they will vote yes to respect the will of the people.

The likes of Austin Gatt have nothing to lose. He can afford to be bullish and vote no. Come 2013 people will not hold him or (Eddie Fenech Adami) accountable but they will surely hold you. The buck stops with you Dr. Gonzi. You get this wrong and this country is doomed. You vote no and liberal minded people like me who have always voted PN will desert our party in droves.

The people have spoken loud and clear – now go to Parliament and say that you as the humble servant of the people will see that their decision is respected. You have to set the example – by voting yes. You have no choice.

It would be catastrophic if you, dear PM, had to vote NO. That would surely be the end of the Nationalist Party as we know it – the end of a broad church that has always been the Nationalist Party – the one and only home to thousands of liberal minded people like me.


Mark]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now don’t go and spoil it all by doing something stupid like voting NO</p>
<p>Dear PN Parliamentary Group,</p>
<p>Later on this morning you will meet to discuss next Saturday’s PL honoraria motion. Most probably the divorce legislation bill will also dominate the discussion.</p>
<p>As a liberal PN supporter I appeal to all of you, namely the Prime Minister, to be sensible and realize that if you persist in getting this wrong Malta will very soon go to the polls and Joseph Muscat will become Malta’s next Prime Minister. We can’t hand this country to Muscat. He is not prepared – he simply doesn’t have it. But am afraid that as things stand this will happen very soon.</p>
<p>So please dear PN MPs do be sensible and stop engaging in short-lived games.</p>
<p>Dear JPO next Saturday it would be suicidal for you to vote in favour of the PL motion – you are right now on a high and for the first time since the general election I’m not disappointed that I voted for you. Thanks to you and the likes of Deborah Schembri this country finally joined the rest of the civilized world. So please JPO don’t go and spoil it all by doing something stupid like voting with the Opposition.</p>
<p>Dear Prime Minister, you did a fantastic job at the helm, managing to weather the economic storm successfully. Really and truly you proved to be a safe pair of hands.</p>
<p>But now, please, don’t go and spoil it all by doing something stupid (read suicidal) by voting NO or Abstaining on the Divorce Legislation Bill. The will of the people has to be respected and no it’s not enough to guarantee that the bill will go through with or without your vote. Of course, the bill will go through but then if you vote NO or abstain that would surely not be thanks to your vote. Because, if all MPs had to use your same logic the Bill would not go through. Thankfully there are some sensible MPs who despite voting NO in the referendum have now declared that they will vote yes to respect the will of the people.</p>
<p>The likes of Austin Gatt have nothing to lose. He can afford to be bullish and vote no. Come 2013 people will not hold him or (Eddie Fenech Adami) accountable but they will surely hold you. The buck stops with you Dr. Gonzi. You get this wrong and this country is doomed. You vote no and liberal minded people like me who have always voted PN will desert our party in droves.</p>
<p>The people have spoken loud and clear – now go to Parliament and say that you as the humble servant of the people will see that their decision is respected. You have to set the example – by voting yes. You have no choice.</p>
<p>It would be catastrophic if you, dear PM, had to vote NO. That would surely be the end of the Nationalist Party as we know it – the end of a broad church that has always been the Nationalist Party – the one and only home to thousands of liberal minded people like me.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		By: Dee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 09:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Muscat is as phony as his suntan and that piece of brown turf on his numbskull.]]></description>
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		By: A Grech		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Grech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 21:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/tossing-a-coin-on-conscience/#comment-84544&quot;&gt;P Shaw&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Muscat has done nothing in his career except for clutching onto other people’s coat-tails, most notably Alfred Sant’s.&quot;

Grossly uninformed or misinformed on the above and the rest of your mumblings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/tossing-a-coin-on-conscience/#comment-84544">P Shaw</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Muscat has done nothing in his career except for clutching onto other people’s coat-tails, most notably Alfred Sant’s.&#8221;</p>
<p>Grossly uninformed or misinformed on the above and the rest of your mumblings.</p>
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		By: Kenneth Cassar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenneth Cassar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/tossing-a-coin-on-conscience/#comment-84543&quot;&gt;jae&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not at all surprised, Daphne.  Fr Joe&#039;s prejudice against secularists is chronic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/tossing-a-coin-on-conscience/#comment-84543">jae</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not at all surprised, Daphne.  Fr Joe&#8217;s prejudice against secularists is chronic.</p>
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