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	Comments on: What does Jesus have to say about living in sin and IVF?	</title>
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	<description>Daphne Caruana Galizia is a journalist working in Malta.</description>
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		By: Josh Briffa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Briffa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That is why religion is so dangerous when applied to anything that requires any form of rational debate and deliberation. Ironically, religion makes sense because it doesn&#039;t make sense.

A religion with facts and truths would not be a religion but a science, or a philosophy. It is evident that every time religion is put in the spotlight in any political debate, we immediately see its true nature.

What emerge are undemocratic and irrational agendas with supposed universal truths. What worries me personally is how any action can be justified with the mentioning of the &quot;true&quot; judge of human action - God.

What struck me about the divorce referendum result was something very obvious that religious discourse in Malta makes you forget;  that apart from being Catholics and Maltese, Maltese people are also human beings. In any case where one&#039;s freedom for his own future is taken away from him, any individual would not give a hoot about the church, his neighbour, aunt, uncle, mother father, or anyone&#039;s opinion.

If one feels that he needs divorce to be free and in control of his life, he will aim to attain that freedom.

What drives us is our will to freedom, and the referendum result reminded me of that, and in a way showed me that the Maltese population realised that religion is not their ultimate reality.

However, all of a sudden, things are going downhill again. The cause?  Surprise, surprise; religious discourse. I think that religion is effective in people&#039;s lives when it addresses religious needs through religious discourse, for those who need it.

Anything other than that is just a sick and twisted form of the very typical Maltese Superiority Complex which we suffer from so much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is why religion is so dangerous when applied to anything that requires any form of rational debate and deliberation. Ironically, religion makes sense because it doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
<p>A religion with facts and truths would not be a religion but a science, or a philosophy. It is evident that every time religion is put in the spotlight in any political debate, we immediately see its true nature.</p>
<p>What emerge are undemocratic and irrational agendas with supposed universal truths. What worries me personally is how any action can be justified with the mentioning of the &#8220;true&#8221; judge of human action &#8211; God.</p>
<p>What struck me about the divorce referendum result was something very obvious that religious discourse in Malta makes you forget;  that apart from being Catholics and Maltese, Maltese people are also human beings. In any case where one&#8217;s freedom for his own future is taken away from him, any individual would not give a hoot about the church, his neighbour, aunt, uncle, mother father, or anyone&#8217;s opinion.</p>
<p>If one feels that he needs divorce to be free and in control of his life, he will aim to attain that freedom.</p>
<p>What drives us is our will to freedom, and the referendum result reminded me of that, and in a way showed me that the Maltese population realised that religion is not their ultimate reality.</p>
<p>However, all of a sudden, things are going downhill again. The cause?  Surprise, surprise; religious discourse. I think that religion is effective in people&#8217;s lives when it addresses religious needs through religious discourse, for those who need it.</p>
<p>Anything other than that is just a sick and twisted form of the very typical Maltese Superiority Complex which we suffer from so much.</p>
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		By: David II		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/what-does-jesus-have-to-say-about-living-in-sin-and-ivf/#comment-84800&quot;&gt;john&lt;/a&gt;.

If only Fenech Adami bowed out of politics when he ought to have done so! He&#039;d be remembered for freeing the country from oppressive socialism and bringing prosperity. Now he&#039;ll be remembered as the PM who became president, and the political relic who adamantly opposed divorce.

@ciccio Then we would have had him not sign the divorce bill passed through parliament on a matter of conscience, so probably not a good idea there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/what-does-jesus-have-to-say-about-living-in-sin-and-ivf/#comment-84800">john</a>.</p>
<p>If only Fenech Adami bowed out of politics when he ought to have done so! He&#8217;d be remembered for freeing the country from oppressive socialism and bringing prosperity. Now he&#8217;ll be remembered as the PM who became president, and the political relic who adamantly opposed divorce.</p>
<p>@ciccio Then we would have had him not sign the divorce bill passed through parliament on a matter of conscience, so probably not a good idea there.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 06:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/what-does-jesus-have-to-say-about-living-in-sin-and-ivf/#comment-84803&quot;&gt;Jo&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Or is it that only the Maltese and the Phillipines are going to heaven.&quot;

Bugger. I was rather banking on some Orthodox crumpet in the hereafter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/what-does-jesus-have-to-say-about-living-in-sin-and-ivf/#comment-84803">Jo</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Or is it that only the Maltese and the Phillipines are going to heaven.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bugger. I was rather banking on some Orthodox crumpet in the hereafter.</p>
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		By: ciccio2011		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio2011]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/what-does-jesus-have-to-say-about-living-in-sin-and-ivf/#comment-84800&quot;&gt;john&lt;/a&gt;.

It would have been better to retain him as President of the Republic ad aeternum - this would have been the only Constitutional way in which he could have been stopped from expressing his views on this matter of public controversy.  Does that rule not apply to &quot;Presidenti Emeriti&quot; as well?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/what-does-jesus-have-to-say-about-living-in-sin-and-ivf/#comment-84800">john</a>.</p>
<p>It would have been better to retain him as President of the Republic ad aeternum &#8211; this would have been the only Constitutional way in which he could have been stopped from expressing his views on this matter of public controversy.  Does that rule not apply to &#8220;Presidenti Emeriti&#8221; as well?</p>
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		By: yor/malta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yor/malta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/what-does-jesus-have-to-say-about-living-in-sin-and-ivf/#comment-84807&quot;&gt;Fenech M&lt;/a&gt;.

Baptism removes original sin - what sin ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/what-does-jesus-have-to-say-about-living-in-sin-and-ivf/#comment-84807">Fenech M</a>.</p>
<p>Baptism removes original sin &#8211; what sin ?</p>
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		By: Interested Bystander		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Interested Bystander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/what-does-jesus-have-to-say-about-living-in-sin-and-ivf/#comment-84808&quot;&gt;Antoine II&lt;/a&gt;.

These old guys might actually believe there is a heaven and they are desperately hoping they can get in by voting No.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/what-does-jesus-have-to-say-about-living-in-sin-and-ivf/#comment-84808">Antoine II</a>.</p>
<p>These old guys might actually believe there is a heaven and they are desperately hoping they can get in by voting No.</p>
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		By: Interested Bystander		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Interested Bystander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/what-does-jesus-have-to-say-about-living-in-sin-and-ivf/#comment-84807&quot;&gt;Fenech M&lt;/a&gt;.

Jammy buggers!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/what-does-jesus-have-to-say-about-living-in-sin-and-ivf/#comment-84807">Fenech M</a>.</p>
<p>Jammy buggers!</p>
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		By: Antoine II		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antoine II]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is all very well for Eddie Fenech Adami and all the other MPs to hide behind their conscience but they need to realise that having a conscience and principles should not prevent one from doing what is right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is all very well for Eddie Fenech Adami and all the other MPs to hide behind their conscience but they need to realise that having a conscience and principles should not prevent one from doing what is right.</p>
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		By: Fenech M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fenech M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When two married people divorce and remarry they will still be living (with their new spouse) in sin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When two married people divorce and remarry they will still be living (with their new spouse) in sin.</p>
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		By: Interested Bystander		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Interested Bystander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/what-does-jesus-have-to-say-about-living-in-sin-and-ivf/#comment-84802&quot;&gt;ciccio2011&lt;/a&gt;.

Shame we can&#039;t have a Maltese Pope.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/06/what-does-jesus-have-to-say-about-living-in-sin-and-ivf/#comment-84802">ciccio2011</a>.</p>
<p>Shame we can&#8217;t have a Maltese Pope.</p>
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