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		By: ciccio2011		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio2011]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/gosh-the-elves-have-become-entangled-in-their-own-web-of-spin/#comment-87915&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

Full length edition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/gosh-the-elves-have-become-entangled-in-their-own-web-of-spin/#comment-87915">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>Full length edition.</p>
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		By: john		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/gosh-the-elves-have-become-entangled-in-their-own-web-of-spin/#comment-87915&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

Uncut or abridged version?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/gosh-the-elves-have-become-entangled-in-their-own-web-of-spin/#comment-87915">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>Uncut or abridged version?</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 20:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/gosh-the-elves-have-become-entangled-in-their-own-web-of-spin/#comment-87909&quot;&gt;ciccio2011&lt;/a&gt;.

Hard back or soft bound, Ciccio? Oh dear, I must stop, really.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/gosh-the-elves-have-become-entangled-in-their-own-web-of-spin/#comment-87909">ciccio2011</a>.</p>
<p>Hard back or soft bound, Ciccio? Oh dear, I must stop, really.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 20:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/gosh-the-elves-have-become-entangled-in-their-own-web-of-spin/#comment-87907&quot;&gt;Pecksniff&lt;/a&gt;.

Zoo.

Limp, moronic, strained humour by ugly, shaven-headed dolts who look like they&#039;ve stepped straight out of Benghazi.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/gosh-the-elves-have-become-entangled-in-their-own-web-of-spin/#comment-87907">Pecksniff</a>.</p>
<p>Zoo.</p>
<p>Limp, moronic, strained humour by ugly, shaven-headed dolts who look like they&#8217;ve stepped straight out of Benghazi.</p>
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		By: maryanne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maryanne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/gosh-the-elves-have-become-entangled-in-their-own-web-of-spin/#comment-87910&quot;&gt;&#039;Angus Black&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Was Joseph Muscat really unaware of pending charges against Cyrus when he welcomed him to the Labour Party?&quot;

Note that the journalists asked Joseph Muscat if Cyrus Engerer had told him about the ongoing investigation. I wish somebody would ask Muscat: Were you aware of the pending charges against Cyrus? That is a completely different question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/gosh-the-elves-have-become-entangled-in-their-own-web-of-spin/#comment-87910">&#8216;Angus Black</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Was Joseph Muscat really unaware of pending charges against Cyrus when he welcomed him to the Labour Party?&#8221;</p>
<p>Note that the journalists asked Joseph Muscat if Cyrus Engerer had told him about the ongoing investigation. I wish somebody would ask Muscat: Were you aware of the pending charges against Cyrus? That is a completely different question.</p>
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		By: p dimech		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[p dimech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well done Daphne for today&#039;s article. Brilliant !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Daphne for today&#8217;s article. Brilliant !</p>
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		By: Matt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne, just read your clear column in The Malta Independent today. Thank you for giving us a breakdown of events.

Do you know more or less when Marvic Camilleri&#039;s lawyers Ellul and Micallef file a &quot;kwerela&quot; with the police against Cyrus?

Since this &quot;kwerela&quot; is a public document can this crucial document be published on the newspapers?

Since Cyrus is a public figure and his constituents put him in office, why didn&#039;t he feel obliged to tell the public that he was being investigated by the police?

Cyrus is not thinking clearly.

We all make stupid mistakes in life. I don&#039;t believe he is being advised correctly. He should stop with this judicial protest and stay low key.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne, just read your clear column in The Malta Independent today. Thank you for giving us a breakdown of events.</p>
<p>Do you know more or less when Marvic Camilleri&#8217;s lawyers Ellul and Micallef file a &#8220;kwerela&#8221; with the police against Cyrus?</p>
<p>Since this &#8220;kwerela&#8221; is a public document can this crucial document be published on the newspapers?</p>
<p>Since Cyrus is a public figure and his constituents put him in office, why didn&#8217;t he feel obliged to tell the public that he was being investigated by the police?</p>
<p>Cyrus is not thinking clearly.</p>
<p>We all make stupid mistakes in life. I don&#8217;t believe he is being advised correctly. He should stop with this judicial protest and stay low key.</p>
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		By: 'Angus Black		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA['Angus Black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have no doubt that Daphne&#039;s accounting of the recent events is absolutely correct.

Then the question arises: If Cyrus &#039;leaked&#039; the information, who did he leak it to?

Was Joseph Muscat really unaware of pending charges against Cyrus when he welcomed him to the Labour Party?

Is Muscat so distant from Saviour Balzan and his own media that he did not know what was going on? He sure stepped on a live land-mine, if so.

The formal inquiry&#039;s job boils down to asking Balzan &#038; Co.for the name of the person who leaked the information. If they refuse to reveal the source, then lock them up until they squawk. Who knows, they may go on a hunger strike.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - OK, let&#039;s make things even clearer because there seems to be some confusion here. This is what Cyrus &#039;leaked&#039; to Malta Today: news of his father&#039;s arrest and questioning re drugs; Edgar Galea Curmi&#039;s telephone to the police commissioner (he was the only one who could have told Malta Today because the only other two people who knew were the police commissioner and Galea Curmi).

 This is what was leaked to The Times: the charge sheet on which Cyrus will be prosecuted. Nobody knows who leaked this and The Times are legally entitled to protect their source. Cyrus did not know about it and was taken by surprise when The Times rang to tell him about it.]&lt;/strong&gt;

In that case, the cops should place a large basket of kiwis just an inch or two beyond their reach.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no doubt that Daphne&#8217;s accounting of the recent events is absolutely correct.</p>
<p>Then the question arises: If Cyrus &#8216;leaked&#8217; the information, who did he leak it to?</p>
<p>Was Joseph Muscat really unaware of pending charges against Cyrus when he welcomed him to the Labour Party?</p>
<p>Is Muscat so distant from Saviour Balzan and his own media that he did not know what was going on? He sure stepped on a live land-mine, if so.</p>
<p>The formal inquiry&#8217;s job boils down to asking Balzan &amp; Co.for the name of the person who leaked the information. If they refuse to reveal the source, then lock them up until they squawk. Who knows, they may go on a hunger strike.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; OK, let&#8217;s make things even clearer because there seems to be some confusion here. This is what Cyrus &#8216;leaked&#8217; to Malta Today: news of his father&#8217;s arrest and questioning re drugs; Edgar Galea Curmi&#8217;s telephone to the police commissioner (he was the only one who could have told Malta Today because the only other two people who knew were the police commissioner and Galea Curmi).</p>
<p> This is what was leaked to The Times: the charge sheet on which Cyrus will be prosecuted. Nobody knows who leaked this and The Times are legally entitled to protect their source. Cyrus did not know about it and was taken by surprise when The Times rang to tell him about it.]</strong></p>
<p>In that case, the cops should place a large basket of kiwis just an inch or two beyond their reach.</p>
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		By: ciccio2011		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio2011]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The news of the last few weeks generated enough material to fill a Queer Mediterranean Memories Volumes II and III, complete with a foreword by Joseph Muscat and illustrated with photographs by Marvic and Cyrus.

If Joseph Carmel Chetcuti (who I am sure will read this comment) does not declare publicly that he is going to publish those volumes, I will go for it myself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The news of the last few weeks generated enough material to fill a Queer Mediterranean Memories Volumes II and III, complete with a foreword by Joseph Muscat and illustrated with photographs by Marvic and Cyrus.</p>
<p>If Joseph Carmel Chetcuti (who I am sure will read this comment) does not declare publicly that he is going to publish those volumes, I will go for it myself.</p>
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		By: Matthew S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Labour at its best. This is taken from the interview with Adrian Vassallo which was published this morning in The Times:

“I was not interested in what happened in the third reading, the nitty-gritty and the details,” he said.

Asked whether he had seen the final version of the divorce law as amended, he replied: “I have no interest. I do not give a s***.”

That&#039;s just what we need. MPs who don&#039;t give a shit about the laws that pass through parliament.

Just because you don&#039;t agree with a law, it doesn&#039;t mean that you can ignore the whole process. Kudos to those who despite disagreeing, chose to stick around and try to make the best out of what they perceived to be a bad situation, especially those who voted &#039;no&#039; in the second reading and &#039;yes&#039; in the third.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labour at its best. This is taken from the interview with Adrian Vassallo which was published this morning in The Times:</p>
<p>“I was not interested in what happened in the third reading, the nitty-gritty and the details,” he said.</p>
<p>Asked whether he had seen the final version of the divorce law as amended, he replied: “I have no interest. I do not give a s***.”</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just what we need. MPs who don&#8217;t give a shit about the laws that pass through parliament.</p>
<p>Just because you don&#8217;t agree with a law, it doesn&#8217;t mean that you can ignore the whole process. Kudos to those who despite disagreeing, chose to stick around and try to make the best out of what they perceived to be a bad situation, especially those who voted &#8216;no&#8217; in the second reading and &#8216;yes&#8217; in the third.</p>
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