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	<description>Daphne Caruana Galizia is a journalist working in Malta.</description>
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		By: Matthew Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87541&quot;&gt;Chris B&lt;/a&gt;.

A free meal ticket for life? I don&#039;t care about your thoughts on housewives, lets not even go there.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Not wives, necessarily, Matthew. Issa ghandna shab indaqs fiz-zwieg, u hemm salt bums ma nghidlekx.]&lt;/strong&gt;

&#039;&#039;&#039;A lot of people are doing it so it must be worth having&#039;&quot;

We are not discussing whether it is worth having. What is with you? We were discussing the fact that certain couples do not have access to it (when there is no reason they shouldn&#039;t) and that is unjust.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Who cares whether you don&#039;t have access to something if it isn&#039;t worth having? I don&#039;t have access to the bogs at Mile End. Doesn&#039;t mean I want them. Sharpen up your arguments. Come on. Too lame.]&lt;/strong&gt;

And yes the rights that come along with marriage aren&#039;t the only reason marriage should be a legal option for both straight and gay couples. The government is sending a clear message when it excludes same sex-couples that is very damaging for gay individuals. It is about principles too.

[&lt;strong&gt;Daphne - Actually that&#039;s not how people see it at all. It&#039;s important to mix outside gay circles to get a proper perspective. Extending marriage to same-sex couples does not change society&#039;s perception of gay people. It changes society&#039;s perception of marriage. In other words, the minute same-sex couples get marriage, it&#039;s no longer the thing they wanted. ]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87541">Chris B</a>.</p>
<p>A free meal ticket for life? I don&#8217;t care about your thoughts on housewives, lets not even go there.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Not wives, necessarily, Matthew. Issa ghandna shab indaqs fiz-zwieg, u hemm salt bums ma nghidlekx.]</strong></p>
<p>&#8221;&#8217;A lot of people are doing it so it must be worth having'&#8221;</p>
<p>We are not discussing whether it is worth having. What is with you? We were discussing the fact that certain couples do not have access to it (when there is no reason they shouldn&#8217;t) and that is unjust.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Who cares whether you don&#8217;t have access to something if it isn&#8217;t worth having? I don&#8217;t have access to the bogs at Mile End. Doesn&#8217;t mean I want them. Sharpen up your arguments. Come on. Too lame.]</strong></p>
<p>And yes the rights that come along with marriage aren&#8217;t the only reason marriage should be a legal option for both straight and gay couples. The government is sending a clear message when it excludes same sex-couples that is very damaging for gay individuals. It is about principles too.</p>
<p>[<strong>Daphne &#8211; Actually that&#8217;s not how people see it at all. It&#8217;s important to mix outside gay circles to get a proper perspective. Extending marriage to same-sex couples does not change society&#8217;s perception of gay people. It changes society&#8217;s perception of marriage. In other words, the minute same-sex couples get marriage, it&#8217;s no longer the thing they wanted. ]</strong></p>
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		By: Oriana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oriana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Madame Caruana Galizia i agree with you about the biased perspective of certain maltese people and not just homo&#039;s, what is really killing me is the way you think about progression. Just because NY received a human right today and NY is NY it doesnt mean that Maltese homosexuals have to stay with there had to the wall and not fight for their rights just cause Malta is Malta and we are still 10years behind everyone. First of all I believe that decisions make progression and with many different decisions we will get to NY scale, it is just people who think &quot;i dont care&quot; or &quot;i dont want to do anything for my country let the others do it for me&quot; who keep Malta this way. Reader, do you want Malta to stay this way? Then DO SOMETHING!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madame Caruana Galizia i agree with you about the biased perspective of certain maltese people and not just homo&#8217;s, what is really killing me is the way you think about progression. Just because NY received a human right today and NY is NY it doesnt mean that Maltese homosexuals have to stay with there had to the wall and not fight for their rights just cause Malta is Malta and we are still 10years behind everyone. First of all I believe that decisions make progression and with many different decisions we will get to NY scale, it is just people who think &#8220;i dont care&#8221; or &#8220;i dont want to do anything for my country let the others do it for me&#8221; who keep Malta this way. Reader, do you want Malta to stay this way? Then DO SOMETHING!</p>
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		By: Patrik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 04:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87548&quot;&gt;Patrik&lt;/a&gt;.

Appreciate the answer and I think where we disagree is fairly unimportant and continuing will only be tedious to both of us.

Keep up the good work and feel free to leave the topic behind (not that I&#039;m implying you need my permission to do so).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87548">Patrik</a>.</p>
<p>Appreciate the answer and I think where we disagree is fairly unimportant and continuing will only be tedious to both of us.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work and feel free to leave the topic behind (not that I&#8217;m implying you need my permission to do so).</p>
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		By: Matthew Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87544&quot;&gt;Etienne Calleja&lt;/a&gt;.

No shit sherlock. When people say gay rights they are discussing human rights which relate to gay issues. Women&#039;s rights are human rights which relate in particular to women&#039;s issues. There is nothing more asinine than saying gay rights and women&#039;s rights do not exist. Its all word play.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87544">Etienne Calleja</a>.</p>
<p>No shit sherlock. When people say gay rights they are discussing human rights which relate to gay issues. Women&#8217;s rights are human rights which relate in particular to women&#8217;s issues. There is nothing more asinine than saying gay rights and women&#8217;s rights do not exist. Its all word play.</p>
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		By: Matthew Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87591&quot;&gt;Matthew Vella&lt;/a&gt;.

No, its the most common name and surname in Malta, there are plenty of Matthew Vellas (unoriginal parents lol)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87591">Matthew Vella</a>.</p>
<p>No, its the most common name and surname in Malta, there are plenty of Matthew Vellas (unoriginal parents lol)</p>
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		By: Matthew Vella		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87604</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87541&quot;&gt;Chris B&lt;/a&gt;.

To your last comment:

I think you&#039;re missing the point. I am not interested in whether you think marriage is a great deal or not. WHY i want to get married is none of your business. The fact of the matter is that straight couples have a legal option that a gay couples does not. That is unjust. That is unfair. There simply is not a legitimate reason why same sex couple should be excluded from this having this legal option.
And again you may think its useless, but considering the amount of people getting married today, I&#039;m sure it has its benefits. (And even if you think it doesn&#039;t, it is still unjust for only certain couples to have that option).

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - &#039;A lot of people are doing it so it must be worth having&#039;. Sorry, no. It&#039;s a social convention. And for most Maltese women, a free meal ticket for life.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87541">Chris B</a>.</p>
<p>To your last comment:</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re missing the point. I am not interested in whether you think marriage is a great deal or not. WHY i want to get married is none of your business. The fact of the matter is that straight couples have a legal option that a gay couples does not. That is unjust. That is unfair. There simply is not a legitimate reason why same sex couple should be excluded from this having this legal option.<br />
And again you may think its useless, but considering the amount of people getting married today, I&#8217;m sure it has its benefits. (And even if you think it doesn&#8217;t, it is still unjust for only certain couples to have that option).</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; &#8216;A lot of people are doing it so it must be worth having&#8217;. Sorry, no. It&#8217;s a social convention. And for most Maltese women, a free meal ticket for life.]</strong></p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87535&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

I sense an alpha male challenge. The forum&#039;s there for all to use. If you have a problem with me filling it up with punchy comments about a variety of subjects, interspersed with music videos, you&#039;re free to do likewise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRKo07GiNe0]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87535">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>I sense an alpha male challenge. The forum&#8217;s there for all to use. If you have a problem with me filling it up with punchy comments about a variety of subjects, interspersed with music videos, you&#8217;re free to do likewise.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRKo07GiNe0" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRKo07GiNe0</a></p>
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		By: Min Weber		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Min Weber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87591&quot;&gt;Matthew Vella&lt;/a&gt;.

Is this Malta Today&#039;s Matthew Vella?

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - No.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87591">Matthew Vella</a>.</p>
<p>Is this Malta Today&#8217;s Matthew Vella?</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; No.]</strong></p>
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		By: Min Weber		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Min Weber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87535&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

You are right. HP = Hocus Pocus.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87535">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>You are right. HP = Hocus Pocus.</p>
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		By: C Falzon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C Falzon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87550&quot;&gt;C Falzon&lt;/a&gt;.

Matthew Vella,

It seems we are speaking about different things. I made no mention of same-sex marriage. That is indeed illegal in most countries (or perhaps &#039;not possible&#039; is a better description) but is not what I wrote about.

I was responding to the comment by Patrik about to gay marriage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/07/same-sex-marriage-lets-put-things-into-perspective-shall-we/#comment-87550">C Falzon</a>.</p>
<p>Matthew Vella,</p>
<p>It seems we are speaking about different things. I made no mention of same-sex marriage. That is indeed illegal in most countries (or perhaps &#8216;not possible&#8217; is a better description) but is not what I wrote about.</p>
<p>I was responding to the comment by Patrik about to gay marriage.</p>
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