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		By: Chris Ripard		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94892</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Ripard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94865&quot;&gt;MMC&lt;/a&gt;.

It was a mistake to shaft AD at the very death of the campaign. It showed a Machiavellian side to Eddie, who, a few weeks earlier, was blowing kisses to AD, who were backing EU entry in the referendum.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - For God&#039;s sake, Chris. Nobody shafted AD and certainly not the prime minister at the time. As has been explained, the election of an AD candidate would have &#039;broken&#039; the mechanism by which the number of seats in parliament is adjusted to reflect the number one votes of the two main parties. If you were prepared to risk Malta not becoming a member of the European Union just so AD could have its ruddy seat, then others certainly were not, and I was one of them.

You have the answer to your question in the results of the first EP elections a year later: 20,000 people (I can&#039;t remember the exact number) who had voted PN in the general election the previous year voted for Arnold Cassola. An educated guess should tell you that they were the ones planning to give their No. 2 (or even No. 1) vote to AD in the general election, but were fortunately warned off. If they hadn&#039;t been, we&#039;d be living in the Switzerland of the Mediterranean today. Elections are not games of risk and chance, Chris. They are about reality, and people&#039;s lives.

F**k AD, quite frankly. They were prepared to shaft the country to get a seat, and you say THEY were shafted? I spent the last few days of the campaign explaining to people why they shouldn&#039;t vote No. 2 AD unless they were quite mad or didn&#039;t particularly want to become EU citizens, and I don&#039;t regret it for a minute. When AD activist - now a reporter for The Times - Kurt Sansone gave me an earful of poison over the telephone, I just told him where to stuff it, adding helpfully that I hoped it would fit.]&lt;/strong&gt;

Up till that point, AD/PN could have happily co-existed, because both parties had principles, indeed, to the young/educated/pro-environment thinking person, AD had a lot to offer. It was also the obvious choice for disgruntled PN voters, who could never bring themselves to vote LP.

It would have been miles better to keep all the thinking electorate on side. PN squeaked it in 2008, but what price 2000 odd votes now, eh Daph?

I have to constantly remind you that we&#039;re not all journalists/lawyers/doctors. The real middleclass (not mittelkless) have been the only sector who get some foreign exchange in and successive PN administrations&#039; way of saying &quot;thank you&quot; has been to make them pay for PN&#039;s profligacy/inability to tax other sectors.

The &#039;masterstroke&#039; of 2003, which rendered AD politically irrelevant, now means that former PN voters who want to tweak PN&#039;s ears can no longer do this.

MMC is spot on in his first para.

I suppose an electorate so easily scared by (an inexistent) &quot;babaw&quot; in 2003 needs a reality check - and it sure looks like it will get it in 2013.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94865">MMC</a>.</p>
<p>It was a mistake to shaft AD at the very death of the campaign. It showed a Machiavellian side to Eddie, who, a few weeks earlier, was blowing kisses to AD, who were backing EU entry in the referendum.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; For God&#8217;s sake, Chris. Nobody shafted AD and certainly not the prime minister at the time. As has been explained, the election of an AD candidate would have &#8216;broken&#8217; the mechanism by which the number of seats in parliament is adjusted to reflect the number one votes of the two main parties. If you were prepared to risk Malta not becoming a member of the European Union just so AD could have its ruddy seat, then others certainly were not, and I was one of them.</p>
<p>You have the answer to your question in the results of the first EP elections a year later: 20,000 people (I can&#8217;t remember the exact number) who had voted PN in the general election the previous year voted for Arnold Cassola. An educated guess should tell you that they were the ones planning to give their No. 2 (or even No. 1) vote to AD in the general election, but were fortunately warned off. If they hadn&#8217;t been, we&#8217;d be living in the Switzerland of the Mediterranean today. Elections are not games of risk and chance, Chris. They are about reality, and people&#8217;s lives.</p>
<p>F**k AD, quite frankly. They were prepared to shaft the country to get a seat, and you say THEY were shafted? I spent the last few days of the campaign explaining to people why they shouldn&#8217;t vote No. 2 AD unless they were quite mad or didn&#8217;t particularly want to become EU citizens, and I don&#8217;t regret it for a minute. When AD activist &#8211; now a reporter for The Times &#8211; Kurt Sansone gave me an earful of poison over the telephone, I just told him where to stuff it, adding helpfully that I hoped it would fit.]</strong></p>
<p>Up till that point, AD/PN could have happily co-existed, because both parties had principles, indeed, to the young/educated/pro-environment thinking person, AD had a lot to offer. It was also the obvious choice for disgruntled PN voters, who could never bring themselves to vote LP.</p>
<p>It would have been miles better to keep all the thinking electorate on side. PN squeaked it in 2008, but what price 2000 odd votes now, eh Daph?</p>
<p>I have to constantly remind you that we&#8217;re not all journalists/lawyers/doctors. The real middleclass (not mittelkless) have been the only sector who get some foreign exchange in and successive PN administrations&#8217; way of saying &#8220;thank you&#8221; has been to make them pay for PN&#8217;s profligacy/inability to tax other sectors.</p>
<p>The &#8216;masterstroke&#8217; of 2003, which rendered AD politically irrelevant, now means that former PN voters who want to tweak PN&#8217;s ears can no longer do this.</p>
<p>MMC is spot on in his first para.</p>
<p>I suppose an electorate so easily scared by (an inexistent) &#8220;babaw&#8221; in 2003 needs a reality check &#8211; and it sure looks like it will get it in 2013.</p>
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		By: MMC		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94865&quot;&gt;MMC&lt;/a&gt;.

Definitely, Eddie was right.

With our electoral system, voting No. 2 for AD can make a difference because if candidates from more than two parties get elected then it is the seats which count and not the number 1 votes.

The adjustment of seats according to No. 1 votes takes place only when candidates from just two parties are elected to parliament.

Taking, for example, the results of the last election - if one AD candidate was elected instead of a Labour candidate, then Labour would have been in government because the number of seats would have been as follows:  MLP 33 (instead of the 34 elected), PN 31, AD1.  This is because of “imperfections” in the design of the electoral boundaries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94865">MMC</a>.</p>
<p>Definitely, Eddie was right.</p>
<p>With our electoral system, voting No. 2 for AD can make a difference because if candidates from more than two parties get elected then it is the seats which count and not the number 1 votes.</p>
<p>The adjustment of seats according to No. 1 votes takes place only when candidates from just two parties are elected to parliament.</p>
<p>Taking, for example, the results of the last election &#8211; if one AD candidate was elected instead of a Labour candidate, then Labour would have been in government because the number of seats would have been as follows:  MLP 33 (instead of the 34 elected), PN 31, AD1.  This is because of “imperfections” in the design of the electoral boundaries.</p>
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		By: Bob		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94890</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94869&quot;&gt;Reuben Scicluna&lt;/a&gt;.

You seem to know something! But will JPO and JM be on the same list?]]></description>
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<p>You seem to know something! But will JPO and JM be on the same list?</p>
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		By: Chris Ripard		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94889</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Ripard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94865&quot;&gt;MMC&lt;/a&gt;.

Neither Eddie Fenech Adami nor you ever successfully explained how voting no. 2 for AD could possibly affect the election result as regards to who clinches power. So, no Daphne, Eddie laid nothing to rest. I was there and so were you. History will prove that this was ultimately a mistake.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - What was ultimately a mistake, Chris?]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94865">MMC</a>.</p>
<p>Neither Eddie Fenech Adami nor you ever successfully explained how voting no. 2 for AD could possibly affect the election result as regards to who clinches power. So, no Daphne, Eddie laid nothing to rest. I was there and so were you. History will prove that this was ultimately a mistake.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; What was ultimately a mistake, Chris?]</strong></p>
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		By: Dee		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94888</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94877&quot;&gt;David Buttigieg&lt;/a&gt;.

Times, Maltastar and Maltatoday must be availing themselves of the services of the same proofreader.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94877">David Buttigieg</a>.</p>
<p>Times, Maltastar and Maltatoday must be availing themselves of the services of the same proofreader.</p>
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		By: the truth		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94887</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94876&quot;&gt;el bandido guapo&lt;/a&gt;.

Ara  veru  ma jisthux.

Min jigi  jsemmi l-imparzjalita  fuq  PBS  -----   Gino Cauchi MP (Labour) li hu stess jipprezenta  il-programm  dwar il-gazzetti tal-gurnata  fuq  SMASH TV.    Immaginaw  x&#039; rapport johrog ezatt]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94876">el bandido guapo</a>.</p>
<p>Ara  veru  ma jisthux.</p>
<p>Min jigi  jsemmi l-imparzjalita  fuq  PBS  &#8212;&#8211;   Gino Cauchi MP (Labour) li hu stess jipprezenta  il-programm  dwar il-gazzetti tal-gurnata  fuq  SMASH TV.    Immaginaw  x&#8217; rapport johrog ezatt</p>
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		By: NGT		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94886</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NGT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94877&quot;&gt;David Buttigieg&lt;/a&gt;.

and whilst listening to Radio 101 news this morning on the way to work, I discovered that the American singer &#039;Ri-H-aNNa&#039; annoyed an Irish farmer and was asked to get off his land.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94877">David Buttigieg</a>.</p>
<p>and whilst listening to Radio 101 news this morning on the way to work, I discovered that the American singer &#8216;Ri-H-aNNa&#8217; annoyed an Irish farmer and was asked to get off his land.</p>
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		By: Joethemaltaman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joethemaltaman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94858&quot;&gt;David S&lt;/a&gt;.

They also concluded that the British Labour Party was a &quot;Policy Free Zone&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/09/oh-dear-god-what-frigging-idiots/#comment-94858">David S</a>.</p>
<p>They also concluded that the British Labour Party was a &#8220;Policy Free Zone&#8221;</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grezz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 18:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah, but you&#039;re assuming that &quot;JAffrey&quot; will be contesting the next elections under the PN &quot;ticket&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but you&#8217;re assuming that &#8220;JAffrey&#8221; will be contesting the next elections under the PN &#8220;ticket&#8221;.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Forster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Finish the sentence with one of the following words:

Editorial standards and prewf reeding of The Times journalists are going down the
a) pan
b) shitter
c) swanny
d) all of the above]]></description>
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<p>Editorial standards and prewf reeding of The Times journalists are going down the<br />
a) pan<br />
b) shitter<br />
c) swanny<br />
d) all of the above</p>
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