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		By: Pecksniff		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/10/london-and-the-anti-eu-bid/#comment-98406</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pecksniff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/26/uk-euro-eurozone

I know it&#039;s The Guardian but read the article by John Monks: &quot; &quot;Britain should consider joining the Euro&quot;.]]></description>
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<p>I know it&#8217;s The Guardian but read the article by John Monks: &#8221; &#8220;Britain should consider joining the Euro&#8221;.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 07:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/10/london-and-the-anti-eu-bid/#comment-98401&quot;&gt;Responder&lt;/a&gt;.

Whose foreign policy veers to the right? PN or MLP&#039;s? I think they&#039;re actually both very left-wing in their foreign policy, in a beatnik pacifist sense, which is just about the worst way you can approach foreign policy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/10/london-and-the-anti-eu-bid/#comment-98401">Responder</a>.</p>
<p>Whose foreign policy veers to the right? PN or MLP&#8217;s? I think they&#8217;re actually both very left-wing in their foreign policy, in a beatnik pacifist sense, which is just about the worst way you can approach foreign policy.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 07:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/10/london-and-the-anti-eu-bid/#comment-98395&quot;&gt;Anthony&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually it started when Henry VIII started looking for his second wife.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/10/london-and-the-anti-eu-bid/#comment-98395">Anthony</a>.</p>
<p>Actually it started when Henry VIII started looking for his second wife.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 07:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/10/london-and-the-anti-eu-bid/#comment-98389&quot;&gt;yor/malta&lt;/a&gt;.

How many times have you heard the British referring to the European Union as the &quot;Common Market&quot;?

Exactly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/10/london-and-the-anti-eu-bid/#comment-98389">yor/malta</a>.</p>
<p>How many times have you heard the British referring to the European Union as the &#8220;Common Market&#8221;?</p>
<p>Exactly.</p>
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		By: Pecksniff		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pecksniff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 07:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While we are on this theme, I love &quot;quantitative easing&quot; which just means &quot;printing money&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we are on this theme, I love &#8220;quantitative easing&#8221; which just means &#8220;printing money&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Responder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Responder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; Pro-Europeanism is associated with left-of-centre or liberal parties while anti-Europeanism tends to be linked with conservative parties, hence the situation in Malta.&quot;

This statement implies that the PN who brought Malta into  Europe is left of centre. I doubt it very much as I am unaware of any policy postion that the PN holds dear to be considered left of centre.  By implication this makes Malta the odd one out in this context..

[&lt;strong&gt;Daphne - Practically all of the PN&#039;s policies are centre-left, responder: health, education, social services, the European Union, you name it. On the economy, it tends to the liberal. The Labour Party&#039;s policies are a mix of far left and far right, and its supporters are extremely conservative. On foreign policy, it veers to the right. Yes, you&#039;re right: Malta is the odd one out. But that has been said all along, most noticeably during the referendum campaign. The Malta Labour Party was the only socialist party in Europe that opposed EU membership and opposed the very idea of the EU.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Pro-Europeanism is associated with left-of-centre or liberal parties while anti-Europeanism tends to be linked with conservative parties, hence the situation in Malta.&#8221;</p>
<p>This statement implies that the PN who brought Malta into  Europe is left of centre. I doubt it very much as I am unaware of any policy postion that the PN holds dear to be considered left of centre.  By implication this makes Malta the odd one out in this context..</p>
<p>[<strong>Daphne &#8211; Practically all of the PN&#8217;s policies are centre-left, responder: health, education, social services, the European Union, you name it. On the economy, it tends to the liberal. The Labour Party&#8217;s policies are a mix of far left and far right, and its supporters are extremely conservative. On foreign policy, it veers to the right. Yes, you&#8217;re right: Malta is the odd one out. But that has been said all along, most noticeably during the referendum campaign. The Malta Labour Party was the only socialist party in Europe that opposed EU membership and opposed the very idea of the EU.]</strong></p>
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		By: Edward Caruana Galizia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 21:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/10/london-and-the-anti-eu-bid/#comment-98393&quot;&gt;ciccio2011&lt;/a&gt;.

So far, not one English person has mentioned the Empire when talking about their relation with the EU, so I don&#039;t agree with you on that point.

What I have heard is how proud they are of what their country has done in the past, and how many of those great men went to their school, a point that speaks volumes I feel.

Whenever someone behaves or reacts in a strange way it&#039;s easy to just write them off as party poopers and send them on their way.

However I find it easier to think of them as behaving like normal people, just in a strange situation.

Their attitude to the EU comes from their perception of what other countries want. In other words, they think that they must watch their backs because of what other countries will take from them and never get back.

If the EU were a battle ground used by countries to bring down others to boost their own success, then the British would be behaving normally. The disillusionment will come when they find out that such a scenario only exists in their minds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/10/london-and-the-anti-eu-bid/#comment-98393">ciccio2011</a>.</p>
<p>So far, not one English person has mentioned the Empire when talking about their relation with the EU, so I don&#8217;t agree with you on that point.</p>
<p>What I have heard is how proud they are of what their country has done in the past, and how many of those great men went to their school, a point that speaks volumes I feel.</p>
<p>Whenever someone behaves or reacts in a strange way it&#8217;s easy to just write them off as party poopers and send them on their way.</p>
<p>However I find it easier to think of them as behaving like normal people, just in a strange situation.</p>
<p>Their attitude to the EU comes from their perception of what other countries want. In other words, they think that they must watch their backs because of what other countries will take from them and never get back.</p>
<p>If the EU were a battle ground used by countries to bring down others to boost their own success, then the British would be behaving normally. The disillusionment will come when they find out that such a scenario only exists in their minds.</p>
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		By: Joe Micallef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Micallef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am pissed off with unions, Socialists and Greens.

They blame the speculators as the one and all cause of the problems we are facing but they seem to forget that Europe has a welfare and regulatory system which is beyond its means, that is, excluding the Scandinavian countries who make it sustainable through heavy taxation.

Moral of the story - all have a finger in the pie so stop pointing fingers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pissed off with unions, Socialists and Greens.</p>
<p>They blame the speculators as the one and all cause of the problems we are facing but they seem to forget that Europe has a welfare and regulatory system which is beyond its means, that is, excluding the Scandinavian countries who make it sustainable through heavy taxation.</p>
<p>Moral of the story &#8211; all have a finger in the pie so stop pointing fingers.</p>
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		By: Grezz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grezz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/10/london-and-the-anti-eu-bid/#comment-98385&quot;&gt;Antoine Vella&lt;/a&gt;.

Talking of which, kev has been rather quiet lately.  Maybe he&#039;s worried Sharon will hack his computer and find out he&#039;s been talking to Daphne.

No smileys, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/10/london-and-the-anti-eu-bid/#comment-98385">Antoine Vella</a>.</p>
<p>Talking of which, kev has been rather quiet lately.  Maybe he&#8217;s worried Sharon will hack his computer and find out he&#8217;s been talking to Daphne.</p>
<p>No smileys, though.</p>
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		By: Joseph A Borg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph A Borg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/10/london-and-the-anti-eu-bid/#comment-98382&quot;&gt;Edward Caruana Galizia&lt;/a&gt;.

I bet the City prefers to keep things as they are. That is closer ties with US and antagonism towards France and Germany. All this at the expense of Joe Public, who seems to be easily dragged by the nose with a flag and the beat of a drum…

And it&#039;s not just the cheap tabloids, the Times after all is now owned by the Murdocks ad he&#039;s interested only in the bottom line.

Found this old but still relevant statistic effectively blaming tabloids for the bad press:

http://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/2003/anti-eu/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/10/london-and-the-anti-eu-bid/#comment-98382">Edward Caruana Galizia</a>.</p>
<p>I bet the City prefers to keep things as they are. That is closer ties with US and antagonism towards France and Germany. All this at the expense of Joe Public, who seems to be easily dragged by the nose with a flag and the beat of a drum…</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not just the cheap tabloids, the Times after all is now owned by the Murdocks ad he&#8217;s interested only in the bottom line.</p>
<p>Found this old but still relevant statistic effectively blaming tabloids for the bad press:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/2003/anti-eu/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/2003/anti-eu/</a></p>
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