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		By: pol		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/11/the-red-elves-on-the-other-side-of-the-world/#comment-110964&quot;&gt;A. Charles&lt;/a&gt;.

Wild Swans, by the same author (Jung Chang), is a must-read.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/11/the-red-elves-on-the-other-side-of-the-world/#comment-110964">A. Charles</a>.</p>
<p>Wild Swans, by the same author (Jung Chang), is a must-read.</p>
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		By: 'Angus Black		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA['Angus Black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/11/the-red-elves-on-the-other-side-of-the-world/#comment-110763&quot;&gt;Matt&lt;/a&gt;.

The speeches do not appear to be available just yet.

However if you bring up NET TV portal (not through maltarightnow.com) you may want to go &#039;ON DEMAND&#039; where you will find the recent programme &#039;Iswed fuq l-abjad&#039; of the 17th instant when the PM was interviewed. The speech you refer to should be up there soon, I hope.

I watched the PM&#039;s speech at the conference and he was absolutely great. He did not skirt around issues and offered Joseph a ten point challenge which, no doubt, will be ignored or fudged by Joseph in his two hour speech tonight.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/11/the-red-elves-on-the-other-side-of-the-world/#comment-110763">Matt</a>.</p>
<p>The speeches do not appear to be available just yet.</p>
<p>However if you bring up NET TV portal (not through maltarightnow.com) you may want to go &#8216;ON DEMAND&#8217; where you will find the recent programme &#8216;Iswed fuq l-abjad&#8217; of the 17th instant when the PM was interviewed. The speech you refer to should be up there soon, I hope.</p>
<p>I watched the PM&#8217;s speech at the conference and he was absolutely great. He did not skirt around issues and offered Joseph a ten point challenge which, no doubt, will be ignored or fudged by Joseph in his two hour speech tonight.</p>
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		By: Village		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Village]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The atrocities committed in the name of Chinese communism are beyond belief. 
But then even today most of the Chinese are living as slaves, and in the jungles almost naked, barefooted and subsisting on hunting.
No illusion of democracy at all but as Zizek put it, China&#039;s authoritarian capitalism is a phenomenon and the day may soon come when the social situation will explode.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The atrocities committed in the name of Chinese communism are beyond belief.<br />
But then even today most of the Chinese are living as slaves, and in the jungles almost naked, barefooted and subsisting on hunting.<br />
No illusion of democracy at all but as Zizek put it, China&#8217;s authoritarian capitalism is a phenomenon and the day may soon come when the social situation will explode.</p>
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		By: Anthony Briffa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Briffa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/11/the-red-elves-on-the-other-side-of-the-world/#comment-110766&quot;&gt;ciccio2011&lt;/a&gt;.

The resultant product - RUBBISH.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/11/the-red-elves-on-the-other-side-of-the-world/#comment-110766">ciccio2011</a>.</p>
<p>The resultant product &#8211; RUBBISH.</p>
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		By: A. Charles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 06:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/11/the-red-elves-on-the-other-side-of-the-world/#comment-110798&quot;&gt;Farrugia&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;On tiny and immeasurably more prosperous Malta ( pop.c. 300000), Mao lavished no less than US$25 million in April 1972. Its prime minister, Dom Mintoff returned from China sporting a Mao badge&quot; -

from Mao, The Unkown Story, by Jung Chang and Jon Halliday (2006).

I believe that this episode was also mentioned by the then British  foreign secretary Lord Carrington in his autobiography.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/11/the-red-elves-on-the-other-side-of-the-world/#comment-110798">Farrugia</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;On tiny and immeasurably more prosperous Malta ( pop.c. 300000), Mao lavished no less than US$25 million in April 1972. Its prime minister, Dom Mintoff returned from China sporting a Mao badge&#8221; &#8211;</p>
<p>from Mao, The Unkown Story, by Jung Chang and Jon Halliday (2006).</p>
<p>I believe that this episode was also mentioned by the then British  foreign secretary Lord Carrington in his autobiography.</p>
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		By: Pat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[45 million?  That&#039;s horrendous.  

Almost as many as lost their lives in the Second World War. (55 million).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>45 million?  That&#8217;s horrendous.  </p>
<p>Almost as many as lost their lives in the Second World War. (55 million).</p>
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		By: Er Dai Wan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Er Dai Wan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now these guys have become arrogant ... posting on CNN US in Chinese.

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/20/zakaria-concerns-about-china/?hpt=hp_c1]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now these guys have become arrogant &#8230; posting on CNN US in Chinese.</p>
<p><a href="http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/20/zakaria-concerns-about-china/?hpt=hp_c1" rel="nofollow ugc">http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/20/zakaria-concerns-about-china/?hpt=hp_c1</a></p>
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		By: Harry Purdie		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/11/the-red-elves-on-the-other-side-of-the-world/#comment-110805</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harry Purdie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/11/the-red-elves-on-the-other-side-of-the-world/#comment-110766&quot;&gt;ciccio2011&lt;/a&gt;.

With a tinge of Libya.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/11/the-red-elves-on-the-other-side-of-the-world/#comment-110766">ciccio2011</a>.</p>
<p>With a tinge of Libya.</p>
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		By: Farrugia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Farrugia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are other published books about the millions that died under Mao&#039;s regime. One Chinese author gives horrific accounts, not different from what we are accustomed to hear about the Nazi concentration camps. The only difference is that Mao killed more people than the Nazis or Stalin did.

What strikes me is that while Mao kept millions of Chinese at mere subsistance or even starvation level, his regime had offered large sums of money on generous terms to Mintoff&#039;s government so that he can build the (useless?) Red China Dock.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are other published books about the millions that died under Mao&#8217;s regime. One Chinese author gives horrific accounts, not different from what we are accustomed to hear about the Nazi concentration camps. The only difference is that Mao killed more people than the Nazis or Stalin did.</p>
<p>What strikes me is that while Mao kept millions of Chinese at mere subsistance or even starvation level, his regime had offered large sums of money on generous terms to Mintoff&#8217;s government so that he can build the (useless?) Red China Dock.</p>
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		By: ciccio2011		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio2011]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 22:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;When I wrote that much of the Labour Party’s thinking (and that of so many of its supporters) has more to do with China than it does with the liberal west, I wasn’t too far off the mark.&quot;

You can summarise that as follows:
Labour&#039;s thinking: Made in China.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When I wrote that much of the Labour Party’s thinking (and that of so many of its supporters) has more to do with China than it does with the liberal west, I wasn’t too far off the mark.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can summarise that as follows:<br />
Labour&#8217;s thinking: Made in China.</p>
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