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		By: La Redoute		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-142802</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[La Redoute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 11:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-138205&quot;&gt;kev&lt;/a&gt;.

Who pays you, Kev? Declaration of interest is key to credibility and transparency. All conspiracy theorists know that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-138205">kev</a>.</p>
<p>Who pays you, Kev? Declaration of interest is key to credibility and transparency. All conspiracy theorists know that.</p>
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		By: kev		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 00:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-138205&quot;&gt;kev&lt;/a&gt;.

Correction: European Stability Mechanism treaty (due to enter into force July 1, replacng the current EFSF). Malta is to borrow €750 mln to throw into this pisspot, apart from the €260 mln for the IMF.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-138205">kev</a>.</p>
<p>Correction: European Stability Mechanism treaty (due to enter into force July 1, replacng the current EFSF). Malta is to borrow €750 mln to throw into this pisspot, apart from the €260 mln for the IMF.</p>
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		By: kev		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 00:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-137731&quot;&gt;mike&lt;/a&gt;.

Here, Mrs Digital Voice - read the European Mechanism Treaty: http://consilium.europa.eu/media/1216793/esm%20treaty%20en.pdf

And while you&#039;re at it, read a draft new EU treaty: http://www.scribd.com/doc/75877614/New-Treaty

It will definitely work: we&#039;ll be borrowing to lend and re-borrow until we&#039;ll all be insolvent and enslaved. The IMF and its controllers will then be even more powerful than the tool you call EU.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-137731">mike</a>.</p>
<p>Here, Mrs Digital Voice &#8211; read the European Mechanism Treaty: <a href="http://consilium.europa.eu/media/1216793/esm%20treaty%20en.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://consilium.europa.eu/media/1216793/esm%20treaty%20en.pdf</a></p>
<p>And while you&#8217;re at it, read a draft new EU treaty: <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/75877614/New-Treaty" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.scribd.com/doc/75877614/New-Treaty</a></p>
<p>It will definitely work: we&#8217;ll be borrowing to lend and re-borrow until we&#8217;ll all be insolvent and enslaved. The IMF and its controllers will then be even more powerful than the tool you call EU.</p>
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		By: kev		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 00:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-137731&quot;&gt;mike&lt;/a&gt;.

Listen to what the expert is telling you, mike. And if you want to enhance your world-view, be sure to read her investigative reports on economic and financial matters. Daphne has full credibility. Rich in global geo-politics and EU affairs, too.

Those conspiracy theorists are all nutters. Just note their exclamation marks, their accents, their noses, and you&#039;ll understand why you shouldn&#039;t waste time on what they say. Much of it is backed by mainstream reports, legal documents and government statements, anyway. So why bother?

Just think about it. Had these conspiracy theories been true wouldn&#039;t the corporate media have told us about it?

Go back to sleep, mike. Enjoy your bliss. Daphne would let you know should the time come.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-137731">mike</a>.</p>
<p>Listen to what the expert is telling you, mike. And if you want to enhance your world-view, be sure to read her investigative reports on economic and financial matters. Daphne has full credibility. Rich in global geo-politics and EU affairs, too.</p>
<p>Those conspiracy theorists are all nutters. Just note their exclamation marks, their accents, their noses, and you&#8217;ll understand why you shouldn&#8217;t waste time on what they say. Much of it is backed by mainstream reports, legal documents and government statements, anyway. So why bother?</p>
<p>Just think about it. Had these conspiracy theories been true wouldn&#8217;t the corporate media have told us about it?</p>
<p>Go back to sleep, mike. Enjoy your bliss. Daphne would let you know should the time come.</p>
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		By: Dust		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-138111</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-137585&quot;&gt;kev&lt;/a&gt;.

Eur1billion is under Eur3k per capita. What are you saying? That we should not offer a loan equivalent to 1-2 months&#039; salary, even if it means worsening the current crisis? 

That sounds about as moronic as the opinion that Mintoff was a success &quot;ghax halla Lm400m. fil-kaxxa ta&#039; Malta&quot;. Just to spare you some mental arithmetic, that means we lived in a 3rd world country during the 70s &#038; 80s just so that Mintoff could claim that he saved nearly Lm100 a year per capita.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-137585">kev</a>.</p>
<p>Eur1billion is under Eur3k per capita. What are you saying? That we should not offer a loan equivalent to 1-2 months&#8217; salary, even if it means worsening the current crisis? </p>
<p>That sounds about as moronic as the opinion that Mintoff was a success &#8220;ghax halla Lm400m. fil-kaxxa ta&#8217; Malta&#8221;. Just to spare you some mental arithmetic, that means we lived in a 3rd world country during the 70s &amp; 80s just so that Mintoff could claim that he saved nearly Lm100 a year per capita.</p>
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		By: silverbug		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[silverbug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-137040&quot;&gt;reuters&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually I would rather be in a position to lend than on hands and knees begging for a loan. Also not a question of getting a life, rather one of getting a brain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-137040">reuters</a>.</p>
<p>Actually I would rather be in a position to lend than on hands and knees begging for a loan. Also not a question of getting a life, rather one of getting a brain.</p>
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		By: mike		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne, what are your views on the following worrying (if true) video: http://youtu.be/EPcWHBPYOSU

[&lt;strong&gt;Daphne - The medium is the message: computerised voice (the same one you get telling you to turn off your mobile phone at the cinema), and questions preceded with the word &#039; Question!&#039; (with exclamation point implied). Zero credibility: for poorly educated teenagers, conspiracy theorists, Americans and Kevin Ellul Bonici. ]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne, what are your views on the following worrying (if true) video: <a href="http://youtu.be/EPcWHBPYOSU" rel="nofollow ugc">http://youtu.be/EPcWHBPYOSU</a></p>
<p>[<strong>Daphne &#8211; The medium is the message: computerised voice (the same one you get telling you to turn off your mobile phone at the cinema), and questions preceded with the word &#8216; Question!&#8217; (with exclamation point implied). Zero credibility: for poorly educated teenagers, conspiracy theorists, Americans and Kevin Ellul Bonici. ]</strong></p>
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		By: Michelle Pirotta		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-137624</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle Pirotta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-137040&quot;&gt;reuters&lt;/a&gt;.

This loan won&#039;t increase our debt or deficit. And, it is an interest-bearing loan, so I can&#039;t get your point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2011/12/burrowing-and-hickups/#comment-137040">reuters</a>.</p>
<p>This loan won&#8217;t increase our debt or deficit. And, it is an interest-bearing loan, so I can&#8217;t get your point.</p>
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		By: kev		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very amusing indeed. It&#039;s your own comments we&#039;re still waiting for - all about the extra 260 mln we&#039;ll be adding to the already-pledged 760mln for the ESM, also known as the Permanent Bailout Fund. 

Biljun l&#039;hawn u biljun l&#039;hemm... Money no problem - when dejn is the solution.

This explains the attitude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m01uxhpyI8]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very amusing indeed. It&#8217;s your own comments we&#8217;re still waiting for &#8211; all about the extra 260 mln we&#8217;ll be adding to the already-pledged 760mln for the ESM, also known as the Permanent Bailout Fund. </p>
<p>Biljun l&#8217;hawn u biljun l&#8217;hemm&#8230; Money no problem &#8211; when dejn is the solution.</p>
<p>This explains the attitude: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m01uxhpyI8" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m01uxhpyI8</a></p>
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		By: Mister		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mister]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Im afraid to disagree regarding this IMF bailout fund.  Its not that we have a choice however. 

There are billions of dollars bet on the failure of the Euro. Big banks in the US are betting on the stock market that the Euro will fail and when it does, they get a huge payout.  Its this factor which is keeping the interests for lending in Euro so high, for countries like Greece and Italy.

As long as these big players are betting against the Euro, whatever money we put into the IMF is for nothing, as these big sneaky banks just `invent` more money to bet against us.

And dont forget these credit rating agencies...... who are in on the game.... since they share directors on each others boards.

So... No, I dont agree with all this bailout money being dished out.... whilst we need to loan it ourselves, to give to others. But we have no choice, cause these bankers will win their bets.... and we will loose much more.

The biggest problem around at the moment is that there are banks and corporations which are too big... and they can control governments without needing the politicians. They control the governments by their cash flow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im afraid to disagree regarding this IMF bailout fund.  Its not that we have a choice however. </p>
<p>There are billions of dollars bet on the failure of the Euro. Big banks in the US are betting on the stock market that the Euro will fail and when it does, they get a huge payout.  Its this factor which is keeping the interests for lending in Euro so high, for countries like Greece and Italy.</p>
<p>As long as these big players are betting against the Euro, whatever money we put into the IMF is for nothing, as these big sneaky banks just `invent` more money to bet against us.</p>
<p>And dont forget these credit rating agencies&#8230;&#8230; who are in on the game&#8230;. since they share directors on each others boards.</p>
<p>So&#8230; No, I dont agree with all this bailout money being dished out&#8230;. whilst we need to loan it ourselves, to give to others. But we have no choice, cause these bankers will win their bets&#8230;. and we will loose much more.</p>
<p>The biggest problem around at the moment is that there are banks and corporations which are too big&#8230; and they can control governments without needing the politicians. They control the governments by their cash flow.</p>
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