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		By: Paul Bonnici		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Bonnici]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 22:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-176502&quot;&gt;cat&lt;/a&gt;.

My sister is a simple school cleaner &#039;purtinara&#039;. You can imagine the sort of people that do these jobs.he gets lots aggro from nasty &#039;hodor&#039; LP supporters.  They make her life a misery.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-176502">cat</a>.</p>
<p>My sister is a simple school cleaner &#8216;purtinara&#8217;. You can imagine the sort of people that do these jobs.he gets lots aggro from nasty &#8216;hodor&#8217; LP supporters.  They make her life a misery.</p>
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		By: jae		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-176797&quot;&gt;karl borg&lt;/a&gt;.

@Karl Borg

It all boils down to the politician’s vision and ability to decipher what is in Malta’s best interest.

Mintoff’s vision was to discourage the introduction of computers on the workplace because it would result in JOB LOSSES. 

The vision of the various PN governments since 1987 was that computers will increase efficiency and make us more competitive.  The introduction and promotion of computers will result in JOB CREATION.   

Mintoff and MLP were not able to see beyond the tip of their noses.   

The PN were forward looking and consistently had a vision for Malta’s economic and social progress.  More crucially the PN in government worked and invested to bring that vision to fruition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-176797">karl borg</a>.</p>
<p>@Karl Borg</p>
<p>It all boils down to the politician’s vision and ability to decipher what is in Malta’s best interest.</p>
<p>Mintoff’s vision was to discourage the introduction of computers on the workplace because it would result in JOB LOSSES. </p>
<p>The vision of the various PN governments since 1987 was that computers will increase efficiency and make us more competitive.  The introduction and promotion of computers will result in JOB CREATION.   </p>
<p>Mintoff and MLP were not able to see beyond the tip of their noses.   </p>
<p>The PN were forward looking and consistently had a vision for Malta’s economic and social progress.  More crucially the PN in government worked and invested to bring that vision to fruition.</p>
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		By: karl borg		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am by no means a labourite or mintoffjan, but it highly sickenning that people still use a quote that mintoff used decades before the modern computer. You would not blame mintoff for saying that expression, similar expressions must have been used when people where changing from horses to cars. Mintoff might have kept the country back from many things, but definitly not room sized computers !!!!

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Room-size computers! This is the 1980s we are talking about, Karl, not the 1960s.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am by no means a labourite or mintoffjan, but it highly sickenning that people still use a quote that mintoff used decades before the modern computer. You would not blame mintoff for saying that expression, similar expressions must have been used when people where changing from horses to cars. Mintoff might have kept the country back from many things, but definitly not room sized computers !!!!</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Room-size computers! This is the 1980s we are talking about, Karl, not the 1960s.]</strong></p>
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		By: pm		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-175810&quot;&gt;Francis Bonello&lt;/a&gt;.

Grezz, colour TVs were not banned. They were in Malta, being sold by friends of friends or barunijiet (but of course internal friends of the Malta Labour Party) to who could pay in Liri Maltin. The social heart of the Labour Party.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-175810">Francis Bonello</a>.</p>
<p>Grezz, colour TVs were not banned. They were in Malta, being sold by friends of friends or barunijiet (but of course internal friends of the Malta Labour Party) to who could pay in Liri Maltin. The social heart of the Labour Party.</p>
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		By: Grezz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grezz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-176013&quot;&gt;delacroixet&lt;/a&gt;.

Then again, there are those who will glorify Mintoff till long after he&#039;s rotted away, judging by the comments here - http://www.maltastar.com/pages/r1/ms10dart.asp?a=19645 .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-176013">delacroixet</a>.</p>
<p>Then again, there are those who will glorify Mintoff till long after he&#8217;s rotted away, judging by the comments here &#8211; <a href="http://www.maltastar.com/pages/r1/ms10dart.asp?a=19645" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.maltastar.com/pages/r1/ms10dart.asp?a=19645</a> .</p>
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		By: Francis Bonello		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francis Bonello]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-175810&quot;&gt;Francis Bonello&lt;/a&gt;.

Grezz,

 naqbel mieghek 100%.  Kont trid taghmel weghda biex ikollok bicca computer dak iz-zmiem.]]></description>
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<p>Grezz,</p>
<p> naqbel mieghek 100%.  Kont trid taghmel weghda biex ikollok bicca computer dak iz-zmiem.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-176610</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-176462&quot;&gt;Lomax&lt;/a&gt;.

Lomax,

The mentality you refer to is as strong as ever within Labour. They witnessed Sant&#039;s debacle in 1997 and chose to keep quiet in the run up to the EU referendum. Rest assured that even Labour MP&#039;s voted in favour of EU membership. 

Have you noticed how the Labour media tries to instigate discord in the PN, misquoting MP&#039;s and written statements?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-176462">Lomax</a>.</p>
<p>Lomax,</p>
<p>The mentality you refer to is as strong as ever within Labour. They witnessed Sant&#8217;s debacle in 1997 and chose to keep quiet in the run up to the EU referendum. Rest assured that even Labour MP&#8217;s voted in favour of EU membership. </p>
<p>Have you noticed how the Labour media tries to instigate discord in the PN, misquoting MP&#8217;s and written statements?</p>
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		By: cat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-176462&quot;&gt;Lomax&lt;/a&gt;.

Biex tkun taf kemm huma kattivi u njuranti l-Laburisti, trid tahdem go xi dipartiment maghhom.  Jiena kont ninnota li kattivi anke ma dawk il-laburisti li ma jaghmlux parti minn klikka.  Ghax dawk tal-klikek ma jista ghalihom hadd.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-176462">Lomax</a>.</p>
<p>Biex tkun taf kemm huma kattivi u njuranti l-Laburisti, trid tahdem go xi dipartiment maghhom.  Jiena kont ninnota li kattivi anke ma dawk il-laburisti li ma jaghmlux parti minn klikka.  Ghax dawk tal-klikek ma jista ghalihom hadd.</p>
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		By: Lomax		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne, and if you allow me: this is something which I will never ever forgive Mintoff for: the instilling in all of us, otherwise fully-socialised adults, this deep-rooted and lingering fear. Many take this peaceful state  for granted. But it is fear which we need to take for granted.

And you know what? Even PL diehards know this and implicitlly acknowledge it. 

On FB I have taken a sharp and open stand against Franco Debono. A Labour acquaintance called me and shamelessly told me: mhux ahjar ma tikxifx x&#039;int? Jekk jitla&#039; l-Labour taf iddur kontrik. 

He was not threatening me. His was a genuine concern. I didn&#039;t give two hoots. But the implications of this incident hit me as very significant and telling.

So my last reflection: Do labour supporters (the sharper ones) realise  that the way of life we have now is exclusively dependent on whether we have a PN governnent or otherwise?

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - I get that ALL the time.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne, and if you allow me: this is something which I will never ever forgive Mintoff for: the instilling in all of us, otherwise fully-socialised adults, this deep-rooted and lingering fear. Many take this peaceful state  for granted. But it is fear which we need to take for granted.</p>
<p>And you know what? Even PL diehards know this and implicitlly acknowledge it. </p>
<p>On FB I have taken a sharp and open stand against Franco Debono. A Labour acquaintance called me and shamelessly told me: mhux ahjar ma tikxifx x&#8217;int? Jekk jitla&#8217; l-Labour taf iddur kontrik. </p>
<p>He was not threatening me. His was a genuine concern. I didn&#8217;t give two hoots. But the implications of this incident hit me as very significant and telling.</p>
<p>So my last reflection: Do labour supporters (the sharper ones) realise  that the way of life we have now is exclusively dependent on whether we have a PN governnent or otherwise?</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; I get that ALL the time.]</strong></p>
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		By: Lomax		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-176132&quot;&gt;Paul Bonnici&lt;/a&gt;.

Let us not forget that many are still  afraid because many (though, I fear, not enough) know that Labour is still the same. Why are people afraid to talk? Because they are afraid of Labour&#039;s eventual return to power. 

I wouldn&#039;t use a nom-de-plume otherwise and I know many others wouldn&#039;t.

Which brings me to another cold realisation: have these past 20-odd years (bar a couple) been a reprieve from what life really is in Malta? Has the peace of mind, which has reogned for all these years, really been an &quot;Awakening&quot; (as employed in the famous movie?) hence a period, fleeting and chimerical, which is so fragile  that come next election, will evaporate? 

When I step back and look at the situation objectively, I see that this is all a dream, this well-being, this getting-on-with-our-lives-serenely is dependent on whether we are asleep or otherwise, figuratively speaking.  One day we will wake up and our re-awakening will not be pleasant.

Sometimes I feel it is like the PN is trying to hold back the tide and the natural order of things in Malt is life under Labour lived in fear and misery.

Fact is many are still afraid. Perhaps, like me, they know that we are merely living a truce and, given a chance, Labour would start turning the clock back. 

Think about 1996. Now, 16 years later, I am deeply surprised (only now it hit me) that a mere 9 years after 1987, Labour was re-elected. And, soon enough, the demons came back to haunt us.

No, it is clearer now more than ever that currently, the PL is worse than 10 years ago and they will show their true colours once they are elected.

Yes people are still afraid, and I daresay, justly so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/01/ah-now-we-know-what-konsulent-tal-housing-means/#comment-176132">Paul Bonnici</a>.</p>
<p>Let us not forget that many are still  afraid because many (though, I fear, not enough) know that Labour is still the same. Why are people afraid to talk? Because they are afraid of Labour&#8217;s eventual return to power. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t use a nom-de-plume otherwise and I know many others wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Which brings me to another cold realisation: have these past 20-odd years (bar a couple) been a reprieve from what life really is in Malta? Has the peace of mind, which has reogned for all these years, really been an &#8220;Awakening&#8221; (as employed in the famous movie?) hence a period, fleeting and chimerical, which is so fragile  that come next election, will evaporate? </p>
<p>When I step back and look at the situation objectively, I see that this is all a dream, this well-being, this getting-on-with-our-lives-serenely is dependent on whether we are asleep or otherwise, figuratively speaking.  One day we will wake up and our re-awakening will not be pleasant.</p>
<p>Sometimes I feel it is like the PN is trying to hold back the tide and the natural order of things in Malt is life under Labour lived in fear and misery.</p>
<p>Fact is many are still afraid. Perhaps, like me, they know that we are merely living a truce and, given a chance, Labour would start turning the clock back. </p>
<p>Think about 1996. Now, 16 years later, I am deeply surprised (only now it hit me) that a mere 9 years after 1987, Labour was re-elected. And, soon enough, the demons came back to haunt us.</p>
<p>No, it is clearer now more than ever that currently, the PL is worse than 10 years ago and they will show their true colours once they are elected.</p>
<p>Yes people are still afraid, and I daresay, justly so.</p>
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