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		By: Toninu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toninu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bil-kitba tieghu is-Sur Ellul taghlima wahda ta&#039; lil kulhadd. 

Li ghandek sistema edukattiva tajba kemm hi tajba ... mhux ma kulhadd thalli l-frott kif mixtieq.

At this stage, I sincerely hope that he&#039;s not a university student, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bil-kitba tieghu is-Sur Ellul taghlima wahda ta&#8217; lil kulhadd. </p>
<p>Li ghandek sistema edukattiva tajba kemm hi tajba &#8230; mhux ma kulhadd thalli l-frott kif mixtieq.</p>
<p>At this stage, I sincerely hope that he&#8217;s not a university student, though.</p>
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		By: mac		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/06/so-where-did-labours-old-guard-go-to-university-then/#comment-277354</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In 1987 the total number of students at University was 800-900, while now there are about 10 to 12,000. And we who used to attend church schools were left out because of the &#039;20 punt&#039;. That&#039;s Labour for you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1987 the total number of students at University was 800-900, while now there are about 10 to 12,000. And we who used to attend church schools were left out because of the &#8217;20 punt&#8217;. That&#8217;s Labour for you.</p>
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		By: Tida		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tida]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 02:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hija hasra li hafna mill-kummenti huma bl-Ingliz ghaliex jekk is-Sur Ellul lanqas jaf jikteb bil-Malti sew ghandi d-dubji tieghi kemm se jfhem  l-Ingliz.

Forsi kien jitghallem ftit kif kienu verament l-affarijiet regward l-edukazzjoni dak iz-zmien.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hija hasra li hafna mill-kummenti huma bl-Ingliz ghaliex jekk is-Sur Ellul lanqas jaf jikteb bil-Malti sew ghandi d-dubji tieghi kemm se jfhem  l-Ingliz.</p>
<p>Forsi kien jitghallem ftit kif kienu verament l-affarijiet regward l-edukazzjoni dak iz-zmien.</p>
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		By: NotThere		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/06/so-where-did-labours-old-guard-go-to-university-then/#comment-275695</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anyone seen Joseph&#039;s new brainwave? Less than two weeks after his lightning visit to Dubai, he formulated a policy that reclamation was a way to go for Malta.

Did the bulb light up in his head after seeing the glitzy brochures for The World and the three Palm Islands developments which were a big thing in Dubai until the world came to its senses and noticed that we were spending more money than we had!

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone seen Joseph&#8217;s new brainwave? Less than two weeks after his lightning visit to Dubai, he formulated a policy that reclamation was a way to go for Malta.</p>
<p>Did the bulb light up in his head after seeing the glitzy brochures for The World and the three Palm Islands developments which were a big thing in Dubai until the world came to its senses and noticed that we were spending more money than we had!</p>
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		By: kram		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/06/so-where-did-labours-old-guard-go-to-university-then/#comment-274933&quot;&gt;Evarist Saliba&lt;/a&gt;.

Joseph Muscat was in Form 2 at St Aloysius College in 1987, so in 1985 he left the state educational system and continued his education in a Jesuit school.  Is this lack of trust in the Labour&#039;s educational system?

So Muscat&#039;s education was  mostly under the Nationalist government and the opportunities opened by the said government can be shown by his ability to further his education.  Would it have been the same if Labour was in power?  But then it would have been whom you knew to progress in your career.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/06/so-where-did-labours-old-guard-go-to-university-then/#comment-274933">Evarist Saliba</a>.</p>
<p>Joseph Muscat was in Form 2 at St Aloysius College in 1987, so in 1985 he left the state educational system and continued his education in a Jesuit school.  Is this lack of trust in the Labour&#8217;s educational system?</p>
<p>So Muscat&#8217;s education was  mostly under the Nationalist government and the opportunities opened by the said government can be shown by his ability to further his education.  Would it have been the same if Labour was in power?  But then it would have been whom you knew to progress in your career.</p>
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		By: elephant		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[elephant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The then &quot;selection board&quot; was a &quot;hnizrijja&quot;. 

Alfred Sant was the man, aided and abetted by a person who had to obey orders in the fear that her husband would not be allowed to stay in Malta, being English. Entry  to university was practically reserved for  people whose parents were definitely Labour - with or without qualifications.  Those were the golden years for you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The then &#8220;selection board&#8221; was a &#8220;hnizrijja&#8221;. </p>
<p>Alfred Sant was the man, aided and abetted by a person who had to obey orders in the fear that her husband would not be allowed to stay in Malta, being English. Entry  to university was practically reserved for  people whose parents were definitely Labour &#8211; with or without qualifications.  Those were the golden years for you.</p>
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		By: Evarist Saliba		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evarist Saliba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Leaving aside the atrocious level of the Maltese language used, which condemns the writer as totally unqualified to write on education, the alleged facts that he quotes depict him as a &quot;mazzun&quot; (gudgeon) who has swallowed all the rubbish that his party has perversely invented about its contribution to education in Malta.

When Joseph Muscat was elected leader of the party, I listened to his address to party members when he told them to love his wife. That embarassing appeal accompanied a story about an intelligent boy from a modest family who grew up to be well educated thanks to the education system that the old members of the party had built up. That boy was himself.

 At that very moment I knew that I could not trust that man because he must have known that Mintoff&#039;s experimentation in education was condemned by no other person than R. Dahrendorf, a German educationist recruited by Mintoff, who refused to be associated any longer with what Mintoff was implementing.
 
The number of courses offered by the university had been significantly reduced and made utalitarian in content, student population plumeted to a very low level, places were limited while entrance depended on sponsorship. 

Secondary education was modelled on the Chinese communist work-phase system which the Chinese were abandoning.

The list of graduates from the Royal University of Malta, prior to 1971, contains persons from all walks and levels of Maltese society, including many within the fold of the Malta Labour Party.

That is the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leaving aside the atrocious level of the Maltese language used, which condemns the writer as totally unqualified to write on education, the alleged facts that he quotes depict him as a &#8220;mazzun&#8221; (gudgeon) who has swallowed all the rubbish that his party has perversely invented about its contribution to education in Malta.</p>
<p>When Joseph Muscat was elected leader of the party, I listened to his address to party members when he told them to love his wife. That embarassing appeal accompanied a story about an intelligent boy from a modest family who grew up to be well educated thanks to the education system that the old members of the party had built up. That boy was himself.</p>
<p> At that very moment I knew that I could not trust that man because he must have known that Mintoff&#8217;s experimentation in education was condemned by no other person than R. Dahrendorf, a German educationist recruited by Mintoff, who refused to be associated any longer with what Mintoff was implementing.</p>
<p>The number of courses offered by the university had been significantly reduced and made utalitarian in content, student population plumeted to a very low level, places were limited while entrance depended on sponsorship. </p>
<p>Secondary education was modelled on the Chinese communist work-phase system which the Chinese were abandoning.</p>
<p>The list of graduates from the Royal University of Malta, prior to 1971, contains persons from all walks and levels of Maltese society, including many within the fold of the Malta Labour Party.</p>
<p>That is the truth.</p>
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		By: Marcus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/06/so-where-did-labours-old-guard-go-to-university-then/#comment-274257&quot;&gt;Manuel Camilleri&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually MCAST already existed but as soon PL/MLP were voted into power in 1971, when University attendance was already free, MCAST was disbanded and it had to be PN in government to re-establish this educational institution.  

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/06/so-where-did-labours-old-guard-go-to-university-then/#comment-274257">Manuel Camilleri</a>.</p>
<p>Actually MCAST already existed but as soon PL/MLP were voted into power in 1971, when University attendance was already free, MCAST was disbanded and it had to be PN in government to re-establish this educational institution.  </p>
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		By: Aidan Zammit Lupi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aidan Zammit Lupi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[People should remember how many students were forced to leave Malta during the &quot;golden years&quot; of Labour. 

Medical students were banned because they dared to protest against the government. Sixth formers from private schools were refused entry at Malta University because of the infamous twenty points. 

Practically the only way to get through was to migrate to the New Lyceum after fifth form. Many of my classmates gave in to the pressure and did that. We have to remember that there was huge fear. Labour thugs and police were even stopping children from entering their schools. 

My qualifications were enough to get me in notwithstanding the private school penalty but for some mysterious reason I was kept out. Perhaps it had something to do with the fact that I had dared to represent the students at a mass meeting organised to protest against the attempted closure of the schools. 

Maybe we would need to ask the person who was the head of the selection board at the University of Malta at that time. He still sits in parliament today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People should remember how many students were forced to leave Malta during the &#8220;golden years&#8221; of Labour. </p>
<p>Medical students were banned because they dared to protest against the government. Sixth formers from private schools were refused entry at Malta University because of the infamous twenty points. </p>
<p>Practically the only way to get through was to migrate to the New Lyceum after fifth form. Many of my classmates gave in to the pressure and did that. We have to remember that there was huge fear. Labour thugs and police were even stopping children from entering their schools. </p>
<p>My qualifications were enough to get me in notwithstanding the private school penalty but for some mysterious reason I was kept out. Perhaps it had something to do with the fact that I had dared to represent the students at a mass meeting organised to protest against the attempted closure of the schools. </p>
<p>Maybe we would need to ask the person who was the head of the selection board at the University of Malta at that time. He still sits in parliament today.</p>
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		By: FP		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/06/so-where-did-labours-old-guard-go-to-university-then/#comment-274272&quot;&gt;Peter F&lt;/a&gt;.

Obviously our education system failed Mr Ellul (well, that&#039;s what parents like to say).

But our system afforded him an opportunity elsewhere and he took it.  His Maltese spelling is atrocious, and I suspect so is his English.  Yet even for people like him, MCAST offers a second chance at becoming something other than an uneducated outCAST in society.

He can&#039;t even spell the title of his own job, but he graduated as a draughtsman all the same.

He&#039;s too young to have experienced Mintoff&#039;s education system first hand, so he can only rely on the stories that were passed on to him, totally oblivious to the fact that those stories belong to the Children&#039;s Fiction section.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/06/so-where-did-labours-old-guard-go-to-university-then/#comment-274272">Peter F</a>.</p>
<p>Obviously our education system failed Mr Ellul (well, that&#8217;s what parents like to say).</p>
<p>But our system afforded him an opportunity elsewhere and he took it.  His Maltese spelling is atrocious, and I suspect so is his English.  Yet even for people like him, MCAST offers a second chance at becoming something other than an uneducated outCAST in society.</p>
<p>He can&#8217;t even spell the title of his own job, but he graduated as a draughtsman all the same.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s too young to have experienced Mintoff&#8217;s education system first hand, so he can only rely on the stories that were passed on to him, totally oblivious to the fact that those stories belong to the Children&#8217;s Fiction section.</p>
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