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		By: johnusa		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/07/he-died-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-in-the-genitals-and-they-claim-they-aimed-for-his-thigh-so-thats-all-right-then/#comment-301320&quot;&gt;Carla&lt;/a&gt;.

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		By: Kenneth Cassar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenneth Cassar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/07/he-died-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-in-the-genitals-and-they-claim-they-aimed-for-his-thigh-so-thats-all-right-then/#comment-301913&quot;&gt;Kenneth Cassar&lt;/a&gt;.

After posting it about three times, it is now online.  Persistence sometimes works.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/07/he-died-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-in-the-genitals-and-they-claim-they-aimed-for-his-thigh-so-thats-all-right-then/#comment-301913">Kenneth Cassar</a>.</p>
<p>After posting it about three times, it is now online.  Persistence sometimes works.</p>
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		By: Kenneth Cassar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenneth Cassar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s one of my posts the racist (sorry, there&#039;s no other explanation) moderator at the Times Online won&#039;t publish.  It is in response to Robert Borg ( http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120710/blogs/maltese-migrants-a-study-in-integration.428015 ).

Dear Mr Borg,

You have raised a lot of points that I will try to address as briefly as possible.

You ask whether immigrants are willing to assimilate into our culture or whether they obey our laws or contribute anything positive.  

Regarding assimilation, I would think that some do, but in any case, they don&#039;t have to.  When you say &quot;our culture&quot;, do you mean - at one end - the paternalistic, sexist, male-dominated, insular, Catholic (in outward appearance and not necessarily in behaviour) culture, or do you mean - at the other end - the egalitarian, secular, humanist, liberal and atheist culture?  (there are of course shades in between).  I ask because I form part of the latter, we&#039;re growing in number, we&#039;re Maltese, and we&#039;re not leaving anytime soon.  

So when you wish for immigrants to assimilate in our culture, do you mean that you wish them to become liberal humanist atheists?  I suspect that you don&#039;t.  So how about giving people the freedom to make their own choices as long as they are in line with the law?  Which brings me to your second question.

You ask whether immigrants obey our laws.  Do Maltese citizens obey our laws?  I would think that the majority do.  The same goes for immigrants.  For those that don&#039;t, there is the law and law enforcement.

You ask whether immigrants contribute anything positive.  Some do, and more would be willing, given the opportunity.  Of course, to answer your question in more detail, I would need to know what you mean by &quot;positive&quot;.  What&#039;s positive to you might not be positive to me.  In any case, over here I believe we have a serious problem of Maltese citizens abusing social benefits (not only do they not contribute anything positive, they actually constitute a problem for the rest of us), and I have yet to hear calls for their forced exile.

Regarding the case of the recent killing of an immigrant (he was killed - that much is obvious - all that has to be determined in court is by who), I won&#039;t go into much details since I&#039;d rather wait for the court case and the inquiry to be concluded.  I will only remind you that the immigrant was handcuffed inside a van, and the autopsy revealed that he sustained several kicks to the groin area and the lower back.  I&#039;ll leave it up to you to decide whether - if the injuries were produced by the detention officers or the army - only necessary force was used.

Finally, please don&#039;t form your opinion about immigrants from comments in the online newspapers.  Usually, the most noisy and vociferous are the least informed and/or most prejudiced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one of my posts the racist (sorry, there&#8217;s no other explanation) moderator at the Times Online won&#8217;t publish.  It is in response to Robert Borg ( <a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120710/blogs/maltese-migrants-a-study-in-integration.428015" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120710/blogs/maltese-migrants-a-study-in-integration.428015</a> ).</p>
<p>Dear Mr Borg,</p>
<p>You have raised a lot of points that I will try to address as briefly as possible.</p>
<p>You ask whether immigrants are willing to assimilate into our culture or whether they obey our laws or contribute anything positive.  </p>
<p>Regarding assimilation, I would think that some do, but in any case, they don&#8217;t have to.  When you say &#8220;our culture&#8221;, do you mean &#8211; at one end &#8211; the paternalistic, sexist, male-dominated, insular, Catholic (in outward appearance and not necessarily in behaviour) culture, or do you mean &#8211; at the other end &#8211; the egalitarian, secular, humanist, liberal and atheist culture?  (there are of course shades in between).  I ask because I form part of the latter, we&#8217;re growing in number, we&#8217;re Maltese, and we&#8217;re not leaving anytime soon.  </p>
<p>So when you wish for immigrants to assimilate in our culture, do you mean that you wish them to become liberal humanist atheists?  I suspect that you don&#8217;t.  So how about giving people the freedom to make their own choices as long as they are in line with the law?  Which brings me to your second question.</p>
<p>You ask whether immigrants obey our laws.  Do Maltese citizens obey our laws?  I would think that the majority do.  The same goes for immigrants.  For those that don&#8217;t, there is the law and law enforcement.</p>
<p>You ask whether immigrants contribute anything positive.  Some do, and more would be willing, given the opportunity.  Of course, to answer your question in more detail, I would need to know what you mean by &#8220;positive&#8221;.  What&#8217;s positive to you might not be positive to me.  In any case, over here I believe we have a serious problem of Maltese citizens abusing social benefits (not only do they not contribute anything positive, they actually constitute a problem for the rest of us), and I have yet to hear calls for their forced exile.</p>
<p>Regarding the case of the recent killing of an immigrant (he was killed &#8211; that much is obvious &#8211; all that has to be determined in court is by who), I won&#8217;t go into much details since I&#8217;d rather wait for the court case and the inquiry to be concluded.  I will only remind you that the immigrant was handcuffed inside a van, and the autopsy revealed that he sustained several kicks to the groin area and the lower back.  I&#8217;ll leave it up to you to decide whether &#8211; if the injuries were produced by the detention officers or the army &#8211; only necessary force was used.</p>
<p>Finally, please don&#8217;t form your opinion about immigrants from comments in the online newspapers.  Usually, the most noisy and vociferous are the least informed and/or most prejudiced.</p>
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		By: johnusa		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 06:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/07/he-died-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-in-the-genitals-and-they-claim-they-aimed-for-his-thigh-so-thats-all-right-then/#comment-301322&quot;&gt;anthony&lt;/a&gt;.

Il-fenkata biex jigbru il-flus biex jappoggjaw lil dawn iz-zewg suldati li hargu bil-bail. Can you believe it? Norganizzaw il-fenkati ghal min joqtol. U le.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/07/he-died-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-in-the-genitals-and-they-claim-they-aimed-for-his-thigh-so-thats-all-right-then/#comment-301322">anthony</a>.</p>
<p>Il-fenkata biex jigbru il-flus biex jappoggjaw lil dawn iz-zewg suldati li hargu bil-bail. Can you believe it? Norganizzaw il-fenkati ghal min joqtol. U le.</p>
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		By: Antoine Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antoine Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/07/he-died-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-in-the-genitals-and-they-claim-they-aimed-for-his-thigh-so-thats-all-right-then/#comment-301320&quot;&gt;Carla&lt;/a&gt;.

In this new group there are several PN politicians but only two PL ones (Decelis and Joe Sammut).

Could be someone wants to &quot;balance&quot; the other racist group which contained many Labour MPs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/07/he-died-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-in-the-genitals-and-they-claim-they-aimed-for-his-thigh-so-thats-all-right-then/#comment-301320">Carla</a>.</p>
<p>In this new group there are several PN politicians but only two PL ones (Decelis and Joe Sammut).</p>
<p>Could be someone wants to &#8220;balance&#8221; the other racist group which contained many Labour MPs.</p>
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		By: La Redoute		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/07/he-died-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-in-the-genitals-and-they-claim-they-aimed-for-his-thigh-so-thats-all-right-then/#comment-301320&quot;&gt;Carla&lt;/a&gt;.

Two of the accused are out on bail. One is still in custody. Celebrations are premature, but tasteless at any stage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/07/he-died-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-in-the-genitals-and-they-claim-they-aimed-for-his-thigh-so-thats-all-right-then/#comment-301320">Carla</a>.</p>
<p>Two of the accused are out on bail. One is still in custody. Celebrations are premature, but tasteless at any stage.</p>
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		By: anthony		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will limit myself to this.

If the cause of death was, medically, because of &quot;being kicked repeatedly in the genitals&quot;, then there is only one word in English that adequately describes this crime.

And that is &#039;heinous&#039;.

I will leave the rest to our mostly competent and upright judiciary.

What fenkata?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will limit myself to this.</p>
<p>If the cause of death was, medically, because of &#8220;being kicked repeatedly in the genitals&#8221;, then there is only one word in English that adequately describes this crime.</p>
<p>And that is &#8216;heinous&#8217;.</p>
<p>I will leave the rest to our mostly competent and upright judiciary.</p>
<p>What fenkata?</p>
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		By: Carla		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/07/he-died-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-in-the-genitals-and-they-claim-they-aimed-for-his-thigh-so-thats-all-right-then/#comment-301237&quot;&gt;johnusa&lt;/a&gt;.

johnusa, most of them don&#039;t even know that they have been added. Members are added automatically by their friends. 

I realised I was added but left the group immediately.  What is so sad about that group amongst other things (and there are many) is that they boast about the number of members they have, when most of them don&#039;t even know they have been added. 

I had a quick glance at the group&#039;s wall and all they can say is that they can&#039;t believe that their friends have been arrested.

The victim is never mentioned. And today they are jubilant because the accused have been let out on bail.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/07/he-died-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-in-the-genitals-and-they-claim-they-aimed-for-his-thigh-so-thats-all-right-then/#comment-301237">johnusa</a>.</p>
<p>johnusa, most of them don&#8217;t even know that they have been added. Members are added automatically by their friends. </p>
<p>I realised I was added but left the group immediately.  What is so sad about that group amongst other things (and there are many) is that they boast about the number of members they have, when most of them don&#8217;t even know they have been added. </p>
<p>I had a quick glance at the group&#8217;s wall and all they can say is that they can&#8217;t believe that their friends have been arrested.</p>
<p>The victim is never mentioned. And today they are jubilant because the accused have been let out on bail.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/07/he-died-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-in-the-genitals-and-they-claim-they-aimed-for-his-thigh-so-thats-all-right-then/#comment-301237&quot;&gt;johnusa&lt;/a&gt;.

Nothing, they&#039;ve just been told it&#039;s not that shameful to be a member of an obscene Facebook page. 

We have a situation to deal with now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/07/he-died-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-in-the-genitals-and-they-claim-they-aimed-for-his-thigh-so-thats-all-right-then/#comment-301237">johnusa</a>.</p>
<p>Nothing, they&#8217;ve just been told it&#8217;s not that shameful to be a member of an obscene Facebook page. </p>
<p>We have a situation to deal with now.</p>
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		By: Grezz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grezz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/07/he-died-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-in-the-genitals-and-they-claim-they-aimed-for-his-thigh-so-thats-all-right-then/#comment-301237&quot;&gt;johnusa&lt;/a&gt;.

Simple.  They are racist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/07/he-died-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-in-the-genitals-and-they-claim-they-aimed-for-his-thigh-so-thats-all-right-then/#comment-301237">johnusa</a>.</p>
<p>Simple.  They are racist.</p>
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