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		By: jaqq		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[HE got and A-Level in English?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HE got and A-Level in English?</p>
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		By: Edward Clemmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Clemmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 08:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-392880&quot;&gt;Edward Clemmer&lt;/a&gt;.

My monolingual (English language) interpretation has not recognized the bilingual (plus Maltese) reality of &quot;tincensa lil Gonzi&quot;, which Daphne has subsequently explained.  

For us in practical terms, this means or explains that Debono, for whom English is obviously his second (non-primary) language, also now is incapable of rendering Maltese (translating it) into properly semantic English.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-392880">Edward Clemmer</a>.</p>
<p>My monolingual (English language) interpretation has not recognized the bilingual (plus Maltese) reality of &#8220;tincensa lil Gonzi&#8221;, which Daphne has subsequently explained.  </p>
<p>For us in practical terms, this means or explains that Debono, for whom English is obviously his second (non-primary) language, also now is incapable of rendering Maltese (translating it) into properly semantic English.</p>
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		By: R.Cassar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R.Cassar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 07:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-390973&quot;&gt;anthony&lt;/a&gt;.

What the heck did you mean with &quot;cock fighter from ghaxaq&quot;? 

The whole point is not that he&#039;s from ghaxaq or anywhere else but the fact that he is using the wrong word in that context. Try not to be offensive or stereotypical because someone from the south might be as educated or knowledgable as you are. Maybe even more!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-390973">anthony</a>.</p>
<p>What the heck did you mean with &#8220;cock fighter from ghaxaq&#8221;? </p>
<p>The whole point is not that he&#8217;s from ghaxaq or anywhere else but the fact that he is using the wrong word in that context. Try not to be offensive or stereotypical because someone from the south might be as educated or knowledgable as you are. Maybe even more!</p>
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		By: Paul Bonnici		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-393622</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Bonnici]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-392943&quot;&gt;Ozzy&lt;/a&gt;.

Daphne, I disagree with you.  If Franco was in the LP, he would have been blown up ages ago.  The PN is more tolerant of dissent.  

That is healthy politics; we can&#039;t have &#039;yes&#039; men all the time.  

That is why the PN is &#039;bla bajd&#039;, though I prefer the PN to the PL, because if Labour win the next election, expect nasty revenge and intolerance.  We will be back to the dark seventies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-392943">Ozzy</a>.</p>
<p>Daphne, I disagree with you.  If Franco was in the LP, he would have been blown up ages ago.  The PN is more tolerant of dissent.  </p>
<p>That is healthy politics; we can&#8217;t have &#8216;yes&#8217; men all the time.  </p>
<p>That is why the PN is &#8216;bla bajd&#8217;, though I prefer the PN to the PL, because if Labour win the next election, expect nasty revenge and intolerance.  We will be back to the dark seventies.</p>
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		By: lexicon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-392325&quot;&gt;lexicon&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry, the wrong interpretation is yours and yours alone but, of course, you&#039;re infallible and an expert on language and any other subject under the sun.  Did I mention anything you wrote about in your reply?  Did I refer to incensing Rita or anyone else? In Maltese, nevertheless, tincensa lil xihadd means tfahhar b&#039;mod eccessiv and is different from the meaning in English.  My English is as good as yours or better.  What I lack is your incomparable talent for arrogance.Now, if you want to give it another meaning, go ahead. i gave you the different meanings of the verb in English and in Maltese, period.  The rest is purely a product of your hasty imagination.  Now you may proceed with your usual denigration of anything or anyone who does not agree with you.  Your faithful lapdogs apart, I really think this blog is having the opposite effect to the one you seem to intend.  Bully to you.  No hard feelings... you do me an excellent service.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - You&#039;ve got a fragile ego, haven&#039;t you. Another one of those people.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-392325">lexicon</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry, the wrong interpretation is yours and yours alone but, of course, you&#8217;re infallible and an expert on language and any other subject under the sun.  Did I mention anything you wrote about in your reply?  Did I refer to incensing Rita or anyone else? In Maltese, nevertheless, tincensa lil xihadd means tfahhar b&#8217;mod eccessiv and is different from the meaning in English.  My English is as good as yours or better.  What I lack is your incomparable talent for arrogance.Now, if you want to give it another meaning, go ahead. i gave you the different meanings of the verb in English and in Maltese, period.  The rest is purely a product of your hasty imagination.  Now you may proceed with your usual denigration of anything or anyone who does not agree with you.  Your faithful lapdogs apart, I really think this blog is having the opposite effect to the one you seem to intend.  Bully to you.  No hard feelings&#8230; you do me an excellent service.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; You&#8217;ve got a fragile ego, haven&#8217;t you. Another one of those people.]</strong></p>
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		By: kev		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-391743&quot;&gt;kev&lt;/a&gt;.

Okay, the truth now: Franko had intended to remove the &#039;dont&#039; after he replaced &#039;suck up&#039; with &#039;incense&#039;.

Allura, miskin, ghax ta&#039; spiss jizbalja tidhaq bih?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-391743">kev</a>.</p>
<p>Okay, the truth now: Franko had intended to remove the &#8216;dont&#8217; after he replaced &#8216;suck up&#8217; with &#8216;incense&#8217;.</p>
<p>Allura, miskin, ghax ta&#8217; spiss jizbalja tidhaq bih?</p>
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		By: I.R.A.B.		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-393185</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I.R.A.B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-391743&quot;&gt;kev&lt;/a&gt;.

In over your head by any chance?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-391743">kev</a>.</p>
<p>In over your head by any chance?</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-393102</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-392943&quot;&gt;Ozzy&lt;/a&gt;.

Ozzy, Why did he resort to attacking Tonio Borg then?

Aren&#039;t those proposals complementary to his? His reaction simply doesn&#039;t make sense. 

Franco Debono has a destructive streak which doesn&#039;t pertain to sane thinking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-392943">Ozzy</a>.</p>
<p>Ozzy, Why did he resort to attacking Tonio Borg then?</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t those proposals complementary to his? His reaction simply doesn&#8217;t make sense. </p>
<p>Franco Debono has a destructive streak which doesn&#8217;t pertain to sane thinking.</p>
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		By: Ozzy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozzy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-392943&quot;&gt;Ozzy&lt;/a&gt;.

What do I care who invented it? It could be censu l-bidwi for all i care. I heard Franco talk about it, my mind tells me that it does make sense, Franco wants it, I want it.. what&#039;s the problem? Why does Gonzi not do it? 

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - That was my point, exactly: unintelligent and uneducated politicians, making unintelligent and uninformed arguments, appealing to unintelligent, uneducated and uninformed electors, while - because there are more of you and them than there are of the rest of us, the rest of us get shafted or stamped on because our views and competencies are not those of the pitchfork brigade (and no, I don&#039;t mean farmers).]&lt;/strong&gt;

No, criticizing the &#039;arriva fiasco&#039; is not a proposal. But I agree with Franco that Austin should resign... that is a proposal... if that ugly frog cannot do the job maybe he should make way for someone who actually can. 

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - You are incapable of rational thought, and yet you demand a cabinet minister&#039;s resignation because you said so, and because you and Franco think he is ugly. God help us if we were to live in a country run on those lines, where the demands of the unthinking and the barely informed must be pandered to even outside the polling-booth results. Outside of an election or a referendum (which are basically just decision-making mechanisms anyway) democracy is not majority rule, Ozzy. Didn&#039;t you know that? Apparently not.]&lt;/strong&gt;

.. and I don&#039;t know whether you assume too much but I FUCKEN HATE LABOUR. Bullshit of the labour party does not appeal to me any way. Truth from Franco does.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Oddly enough, I don&#039;t believe you. And only Maltese Facebook chavs write and say &#039;fucken&#039;. The rest of us spell and pronounce the word in its entirety.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-392943">Ozzy</a>.</p>
<p>What do I care who invented it? It could be censu l-bidwi for all i care. I heard Franco talk about it, my mind tells me that it does make sense, Franco wants it, I want it.. what&#8217;s the problem? Why does Gonzi not do it? </p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; That was my point, exactly: unintelligent and uneducated politicians, making unintelligent and uninformed arguments, appealing to unintelligent, uneducated and uninformed electors, while &#8211; because there are more of you and them than there are of the rest of us, the rest of us get shafted or stamped on because our views and competencies are not those of the pitchfork brigade (and no, I don&#8217;t mean farmers).]</strong></p>
<p>No, criticizing the &#8216;arriva fiasco&#8217; is not a proposal. But I agree with Franco that Austin should resign&#8230; that is a proposal&#8230; if that ugly frog cannot do the job maybe he should make way for someone who actually can. </p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; You are incapable of rational thought, and yet you demand a cabinet minister&#8217;s resignation because you said so, and because you and Franco think he is ugly. God help us if we were to live in a country run on those lines, where the demands of the unthinking and the barely informed must be pandered to even outside the polling-booth results. Outside of an election or a referendum (which are basically just decision-making mechanisms anyway) democracy is not majority rule, Ozzy. Didn&#8217;t you know that? Apparently not.]</strong></p>
<p>.. and I don&#8217;t know whether you assume too much but I FUCKEN HATE LABOUR. Bullshit of the labour party does not appeal to me any way. Truth from Franco does.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Oddly enough, I don&#8217;t believe you. And only Maltese Facebook chavs write and say &#8216;fucken&#8217;. The rest of us spell and pronounce the word in its entirety.]</strong></p>
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		By: Ozzy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozzy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-391958&quot;&gt;Ozzy&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, in this case Pol Pot happens to make proposals that many people are in favor off. Pol Pot happens also to speak the people&#039;s minds ... such as like I said the arriva fiasco.  This Pol Pot will hence contribute to the crowds you highly criticize such as &#039;Il-Guy&#039; to be in power.

Therefore the way I see it not discussing the proposal seriously will indirectly be your loss.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - The mistake you make is to believe that Franco Debono has a monopoly on these subjects. He does not. Political party financing was not invented with Franco Debono. Criticising &#039;the arriva fiasco&#039; is not a proposal. Franco Debono appeals to people for the same reasons that the Labour Party does, and this is nothing to be proud of. As for your so-called argument, it is typical Maltese &#039;ragunar minn s**mok&#039;: when somebody is a total jerk, don&#039;t blame him for being a total jerk, blame others for not keeping him happy. The jerk is seen as somebody without free will, sort of like a dog or a horse.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/09/dont-incense-franco/#comment-391958">Ozzy</a>.</p>
<p>Well, in this case Pol Pot happens to make proposals that many people are in favor off. Pol Pot happens also to speak the people&#8217;s minds &#8230; such as like I said the arriva fiasco.  This Pol Pot will hence contribute to the crowds you highly criticize such as &#8216;Il-Guy&#8217; to be in power.</p>
<p>Therefore the way I see it not discussing the proposal seriously will indirectly be your loss.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; The mistake you make is to believe that Franco Debono has a monopoly on these subjects. He does not. Political party financing was not invented with Franco Debono. Criticising &#8216;the arriva fiasco&#8217; is not a proposal. Franco Debono appeals to people for the same reasons that the Labour Party does, and this is nothing to be proud of. As for your so-called argument, it is typical Maltese &#8216;ragunar minn s**mok&#8217;: when somebody is a total jerk, don&#8217;t blame him for being a total jerk, blame others for not keeping him happy. The jerk is seen as somebody without free will, sort of like a dog or a horse.]</strong></p>
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