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	Comments on: A good budget, well received. And Labour plans backdated chaos.	</title>
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	<description>Daphne Caruana Galizia is a journalist working in Malta.</description>
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		By: Eddy Privitera		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddy Privitera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/11/a-good-budget-well-received-and-theyre-going-to-vote-against-it-all-the-same/#comment-540985&quot;&gt;Lestrade&lt;/a&gt;.

Issa naraw bil-budget b&#039;kollox ta&#039; Tonio Fenech, il-lejla jinghatax vot ta&#039; sfiducja mill-Kunsillieri ta&#039; GonziPN ! jekk Simon jirbah, mhux biss dan ikun vot ta&#039; sfiducja f&#039;Tonio Fenech, izda wkoll fil-ministri KOLLHA hlief wiehed, li KOLLHA bbakkjaw lil Tonio Fenech !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/11/a-good-budget-well-received-and-theyre-going-to-vote-against-it-all-the-same/#comment-540985">Lestrade</a>.</p>
<p>Issa naraw bil-budget b&#8217;kollox ta&#8217; Tonio Fenech, il-lejla jinghatax vot ta&#8217; sfiducja mill-Kunsillieri ta&#8217; GonziPN ! jekk Simon jirbah, mhux biss dan ikun vot ta&#8217; sfiducja f&#8217;Tonio Fenech, izda wkoll fil-ministri KOLLHA hlief wiehed, li KOLLHA bbakkjaw lil Tonio Fenech !</p>
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		By: Gahan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 06:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/11/a-good-budget-well-received-and-theyre-going-to-vote-against-it-all-the-same/#comment-541239&quot;&gt;Malti&lt;/a&gt;.

Malti, the budget process starts around March and continues to develop in summer while you’re sunbathing on the beach.
How trivial can we get?

In the golden years there was no consultation process, no MCSD, no COLA and the budget was decided in a matter of weeks by the one and only; cabinet was not even consulted, cabinet meetings were rare.

The closest you can get to a Labour Budget is the 1998 Budget presented by a half baked banking employee, where property tax was introduced and high water and electricity bills were thrown on everyone without helping “il-batut”, and were fees had to be paid for “free medicines”.

The only Maltese Prime Minister to work under the scrutiny of the EU is Lawrence Gonzi , he’s the only one who is dealing with the EU to get more EU funding, he is politely asking for more.

I’m sure Joseph would use the veto to get his  “more”, he’s in the class of Franco.Joseph doesn’t know how to go about it, so threats will get him what he wants.
Just an other reminder , Joseph was the one who suggested the use of the veto on the illegal emigrants’ problem we had some years ago.

We have yet to see how the Labour Party will ‘work’ in the EU context. I am stating this just to remind you that they never worked under the scrutiny of the EU  (read: “Il-barrani”).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/11/a-good-budget-well-received-and-theyre-going-to-vote-against-it-all-the-same/#comment-541239">Malti</a>.</p>
<p>Malti, the budget process starts around March and continues to develop in summer while you’re sunbathing on the beach.<br />
How trivial can we get?</p>
<p>In the golden years there was no consultation process, no MCSD, no COLA and the budget was decided in a matter of weeks by the one and only; cabinet was not even consulted, cabinet meetings were rare.</p>
<p>The closest you can get to a Labour Budget is the 1998 Budget presented by a half baked banking employee, where property tax was introduced and high water and electricity bills were thrown on everyone without helping “il-batut”, and were fees had to be paid for “free medicines”.</p>
<p>The only Maltese Prime Minister to work under the scrutiny of the EU is Lawrence Gonzi , he’s the only one who is dealing with the EU to get more EU funding, he is politely asking for more.</p>
<p>I’m sure Joseph would use the veto to get his  “more”, he’s in the class of Franco.Joseph doesn’t know how to go about it, so threats will get him what he wants.<br />
Just an other reminder , Joseph was the one who suggested the use of the veto on the illegal emigrants’ problem we had some years ago.</p>
<p>We have yet to see how the Labour Party will ‘work’ in the EU context. I am stating this just to remind you that they never worked under the scrutiny of the EU  (read: “Il-barrani”).</p>
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		By: Toyger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toyger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/11/a-good-budget-well-received-and-theyre-going-to-vote-against-it-all-the-same/#comment-540991&quot;&gt;Wenzu Cole&lt;/a&gt;.

They don&#039;t necessarily have to vote against it for the budget not to pass.

If one or both vote against it, the budget does not pass.
If one abstains and the other votes against, it will not pass.
If one abstains and the other votes in favour, the budget passes with the vote of the speaker.
If both abstain, the budget will not pass as even with the speaker&#039;s vote, it won&#039;t have a majority.

Many scenarios, and we&#039;re dealing with MPs with a grudge and a personal agenda, so anything&#039;s possible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/11/a-good-budget-well-received-and-theyre-going-to-vote-against-it-all-the-same/#comment-540991">Wenzu Cole</a>.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t necessarily have to vote against it for the budget not to pass.</p>
<p>If one or both vote against it, the budget does not pass.<br />
If one abstains and the other votes against, it will not pass.<br />
If one abstains and the other votes in favour, the budget passes with the vote of the speaker.<br />
If both abstain, the budget will not pass as even with the speaker&#8217;s vote, it won&#8217;t have a majority.</p>
<p>Many scenarios, and we&#8217;re dealing with MPs with a grudge and a personal agenda, so anything&#8217;s possible.</p>
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		By: Ninu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ninu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Labour Party is just unbelievable.  Not being able to write a decent electoral programme (not even in draft format), they have come up with a Cunning Plan V2.  

They do not need to bother to prepare a budget after they mob Castille. They will take Tonio Fenech&#039;s work and just implement it.  Or so they say/think.  

They have no idea that the revenue side in the budget equation will not add up as the main ingredient will vanish - people&#039;s trust and hard work to keep taxes flowing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Labour Party is just unbelievable.  Not being able to write a decent electoral programme (not even in draft format), they have come up with a Cunning Plan V2.  </p>
<p>They do not need to bother to prepare a budget after they mob Castille. They will take Tonio Fenech&#8217;s work and just implement it.  Or so they say/think.  </p>
<p>They have no idea that the revenue side in the budget equation will not add up as the main ingredient will vanish &#8211; people&#8217;s trust and hard work to keep taxes flowing.</p>
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		By: Charles Cassar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Cassar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Valid points.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valid points.</p>
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		By: ciccio		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stop press.  Joseph Muscat will implement budget measures retrospectively.  With interest.  Personal interest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop press.  Joseph Muscat will implement budget measures retrospectively.  With interest.  Personal interest.</p>
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		By: TinaB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TinaB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And in the meantime:

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20121129/budget-2013/pl-considering-options-for-minimum-wage-earners-not-to-be-taxed.447426

No wonder the PL is a party which appeals the the most short-sighted people in the country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in the meantime:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20121129/budget-2013/pl-considering-options-for-minimum-wage-earners-not-to-be-taxed.447426" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20121129/budget-2013/pl-considering-options-for-minimum-wage-earners-not-to-be-taxed.447426</a></p>
<p>No wonder the PL is a party which appeals the the most short-sighted people in the country.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/11/a-good-budget-well-received-and-theyre-going-to-vote-against-it-all-the-same/#comment-541142&quot;&gt;Harry Purdie&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, he&#039;s all loving, Harry,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/11/a-good-budget-well-received-and-theyre-going-to-vote-against-it-all-the-same/#comment-541142">Harry Purdie</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, he&#8217;s all loving, Harry,</p>
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		By: Malti		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Malti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/11/a-good-budget-well-received-and-theyre-going-to-vote-against-it-all-the-same/#comment-541142&quot;&gt;Harry Purdie&lt;/a&gt;.

if the budget is that important (which it is), and everybody was aware of Franco&#039;s reasoning the responsible way to go about it was to dissolve Parliament in say September / October and this budget would have been presented by the party in government with no problem at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/11/a-good-budget-well-received-and-theyre-going-to-vote-against-it-all-the-same/#comment-541142">Harry Purdie</a>.</p>
<p>if the budget is that important (which it is), and everybody was aware of Franco&#8217;s reasoning the responsible way to go about it was to dissolve Parliament in say September / October and this budget would have been presented by the party in government with no problem at all.</p>
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		By: Malti		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Malti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/11/a-good-budget-well-received-and-theyre-going-to-vote-against-it-all-the-same/#comment-541193&quot;&gt;QahbuMalti&lt;/a&gt;.

Right now you have the option to choose between the 12% FWT and the 35% on profits for a seven year period.

This budget is going to extend this to a 12 year period.

If you left the contract for the 7th year and 1 month its not Joseph&#039;s fault but actually your QahbuMalti.

If this scenario you are saying is true you didn&#039;t do your homework right!!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/11/a-good-budget-well-received-and-theyre-going-to-vote-against-it-all-the-same/#comment-541193">QahbuMalti</a>.</p>
<p>Right now you have the option to choose between the 12% FWT and the 35% on profits for a seven year period.</p>
<p>This budget is going to extend this to a 12 year period.</p>
<p>If you left the contract for the 7th year and 1 month its not Joseph&#8217;s fault but actually your QahbuMalti.</p>
<p>If this scenario you are saying is true you didn&#8217;t do your homework right!!!!!!</p>
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