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		By: Glenn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/12/so-now-we-know-why-we-should-vote-labour-ghax-maghqud/#comment-596149&quot;&gt;Glenn&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m only posting this because I&#039;m interested in the argument, knowing full well that, at this point, most probably no one else will see this.

You said you can&#039;t say &#039;United country&#039; in English. By that logic, you can&#039;t say &#039;United Kingdom&#039; either since &#039;Kingdom&#039; is a singular noun. I think it&#039;s clear that it&#039;s the entities of the Kingdom which are being described as United, as would be the case for a &#039;United country&#039;. 

Also, in Maltese, we say &#039;Renju Unit&#039;; However, searching for &quot;Renju Maghqud&quot; on Google shows that those exact words were used in various official EU law translations as &quot;Renju Maghqud tal-Gran Brittanja&quot;. That would be incorrect according to you (Not sure who is right though, because I&#039;m sure there are mistakes in the Maltese EU law translations.)

I admit that I was wrong in the &#039;Gnus maghquda&#039; case. I didn&#039;t realise you&#039;d said that &quot;*One thing* cannot be &#039;maghquda&#039;&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/12/so-now-we-know-why-we-should-vote-labour-ghax-maghqud/#comment-596149">Glenn</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m only posting this because I&#8217;m interested in the argument, knowing full well that, at this point, most probably no one else will see this.</p>
<p>You said you can&#8217;t say &#8216;United country&#8217; in English. By that logic, you can&#8217;t say &#8216;United Kingdom&#8217; either since &#8216;Kingdom&#8217; is a singular noun. I think it&#8217;s clear that it&#8217;s the entities of the Kingdom which are being described as United, as would be the case for a &#8216;United country&#8217;. </p>
<p>Also, in Maltese, we say &#8216;Renju Unit&#8217;; However, searching for &#8220;Renju Maghqud&#8221; on Google shows that those exact words were used in various official EU law translations as &#8220;Renju Maghqud tal-Gran Brittanja&#8221;. That would be incorrect according to you (Not sure who is right though, because I&#8217;m sure there are mistakes in the Maltese EU law translations.)</p>
<p>I admit that I was wrong in the &#8216;Gnus maghquda&#8217; case. I didn&#8217;t realise you&#8217;d said that &#8220;*One thing* cannot be &#8216;maghquda'&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Angus Black		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angus Black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ghall Milied hawwadt kejk u aqta kemm gie tajjeb ghax uzajt bott &#039;united milk&#039; u ghaqqadli kollox sew.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ghall Milied hawwadt kejk u aqta kemm gie tajjeb ghax uzajt bott &#8216;united milk&#8217; u ghaqqadli kollox sew.</p>
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		By: Glenn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/12/so-now-we-know-why-we-should-vote-labour-ghax-maghqud/#comment-596149&quot;&gt;Glenn&lt;/a&gt;.

On second thought, I just realised that &#039;gnus maghquda&#039; is already referring to the plural &#039;gnus&#039; and could very well have been written as &#039;gnus maghqudin&#039;. Above, you did say &quot;One thing cannot be &#039;maghquda&#039; unless the meaning is &#039;congealed&#039; (united with itself) &quot; though, which clearly doesn&#039;t hold here. 

That being said I still believe that &#039;pajjiz maghqud&#039; is the best way to say &#039;united country&#039;. It might not be strictly correct grammatically speaking, but language evolves, and I&#039;m sure the former is understood perfectly well by all Maltese speakers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/12/so-now-we-know-why-we-should-vote-labour-ghax-maghqud/#comment-596149">Glenn</a>.</p>
<p>On second thought, I just realised that &#8216;gnus maghquda&#8217; is already referring to the plural &#8216;gnus&#8217; and could very well have been written as &#8216;gnus maghqudin&#8217;. Above, you did say &#8220;One thing cannot be &#8216;maghquda&#8217; unless the meaning is &#8216;congealed&#8217; (united with itself) &#8221; though, which clearly doesn&#8217;t hold here. </p>
<p>That being said I still believe that &#8216;pajjiz maghqud&#8217; is the best way to say &#8216;united country&#8217;. It might not be strictly correct grammatically speaking, but language evolves, and I&#8217;m sure the former is understood perfectly well by all Maltese speakers.</p>
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		By: Glenn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What about &quot;Il-Gnus maghquda&quot;? And how would one say &quot;a united country&quot; in Maltese, then?

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Gnus Maghquda is the plural form. You can&#039;t say &#039;a united country&#039; in English, either. It doesn&#039;t make sense.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about &#8220;Il-Gnus maghquda&#8221;? And how would one say &#8220;a united country&#8221; in Maltese, then?</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Gnus Maghquda is the plural form. You can&#8217;t say &#8216;a united country&#8217; in English, either. It doesn&#8217;t make sense.]</strong></p>
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		By: e. muscat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[e. muscat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/12/so-now-we-know-why-we-should-vote-labour-ghax-maghqud/#comment-593883&quot;&gt;Anthony III&lt;/a&gt;.

@Anthony III

Yes exactly that. In black and white.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/12/so-now-we-know-why-we-should-vote-labour-ghax-maghqud/#comment-593883">Anthony III</a>.</p>
<p>@Anthony III</p>
<p>Yes exactly that. In black and white.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/12/so-now-we-know-why-we-should-vote-labour-ghax-maghqud/#comment-592680&quot;&gt;NGT&lt;/a&gt;.

What message?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/12/so-now-we-know-why-we-should-vote-labour-ghax-maghqud/#comment-592680">NGT</a>.</p>
<p>What message?</p>
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		By: ta'sapienza		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ta'sapienza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/12/so-now-we-know-why-we-should-vote-labour-ghax-maghqud/#comment-594447&quot;&gt;Cicero&lt;/a&gt;.

Thick as in a short plank?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/12/so-now-we-know-why-we-should-vote-labour-ghax-maghqud/#comment-594447">Cicero</a>.</p>
<p>Thick as in a short plank?</p>
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		By: Cicero		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cicero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maghqud equals thick.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - That&#039;s what I keep telling them Cicero. It doesn&#039;t mean united in the singular, because one thing by definition can&#039;t be united with itself.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maghqud equals thick.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; That&#8217;s what I keep telling them Cicero. It doesn&#8217;t mean united in the singular, because one thing by definition can&#8217;t be united with itself.]</strong></p>
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		By: skadut		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[skadut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kompetizjoni ghall-akbar Nazjonalist bhal Franco Debono -

Biex ikollok cans tirbah lil Franco trid:-

1. tivvota kontra il-gvern tieghek stess fil-Parlament (ghax issa Franco ma jistax);

2. tirraprezenta lil partit l-iehor fuq Xarabank kontra il-Vici kap tal-Partit tieghek stess;

3. tippretendi li int Roberto Baggio taghmel xaghrek HORSETAIL u toqod tigri b&#039;xi ktieb tal-Buddha (l-ewwel wahda difficli ghal Franco);

4. tkun minghalik l-isbah wiehed biex tkun tista tghajjar lil xi ministru ikrah;

5. tkun L-aqwa wiehed u kull min immerik ikun hazin u allura tiggielidlu;

6. thalli lil min ma jaqbilx mal-PN ikesksek qiesek kelb tal-glied;

7. u meta ma tiehux dak li trid, trid tarmi it-toys u l-gazaza min gol-pram u toqod titbaqbaq u twerzaq.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kompetizjoni ghall-akbar Nazjonalist bhal Franco Debono &#8211;</p>
<p>Biex ikollok cans tirbah lil Franco trid:-</p>
<p>1. tivvota kontra il-gvern tieghek stess fil-Parlament (ghax issa Franco ma jistax);</p>
<p>2. tirraprezenta lil partit l-iehor fuq Xarabank kontra il-Vici kap tal-Partit tieghek stess;</p>
<p>3. tippretendi li int Roberto Baggio taghmel xaghrek HORSETAIL u toqod tigri b&#8217;xi ktieb tal-Buddha (l-ewwel wahda difficli ghal Franco);</p>
<p>4. tkun minghalik l-isbah wiehed biex tkun tista tghajjar lil xi ministru ikrah;</p>
<p>5. tkun L-aqwa wiehed u kull min immerik ikun hazin u allura tiggielidlu;</p>
<p>6. thalli lil min ma jaqbilx mal-PN ikesksek qiesek kelb tal-glied;</p>
<p>7. u meta ma tiehux dak li trid, trid tarmi it-toys u l-gazaza min gol-pram u toqod titbaqbaq u twerzaq.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/12/so-now-we-know-why-we-should-vote-labour-ghax-maghqud/#comment-592627&quot;&gt;edgar&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s the underlying message.developed over these four years. 

Meritocracy a&#039; la Labour as the antidote to Franco&#039;s oligarchy. Why everyone deserves a chance in life. 

Franco barely hides it, the prototype of Joseph&#039;s target.  

Still, Franco refuses the movement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2012/12/so-now-we-know-why-we-should-vote-labour-ghax-maghqud/#comment-592627">edgar</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the underlying message.developed over these four years. </p>
<p>Meritocracy a&#8217; la Labour as the antidote to Franco&#8217;s oligarchy. Why everyone deserves a chance in life. </p>
<p>Franco barely hides it, the prototype of Joseph&#8217;s target.  </p>
<p>Still, Franco refuses the movement.</p>
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